October 1998 - XEmacs-Beta - XEmacs Mailing List Archives

Re: 21.0 showstopper bytecompile-time -vs- run-time dependencies 25 years, 11 months

Oscar Figueiredo

>>>>> "sb" == SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: sb> Olivier Galibert <galibert(a)pobox.com> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: [...] >>> Suggestions? >> Three fields: >> - minimal requires for runtime >> - requires for compile time >> - full requires for maximal operation sb> Exactly correct. The minimal requires would be force-downloaded by sb> the package-get stuffs. The maximal requires would need some kind of sb> extra option. sb> For a first cut, I'd be satisfied to have minimal requires handled sb> correctly as the SUMO tarballs will handle everything else. >> But maybe that would be too much a hassle to manage... sb> At the present time, yes. We *really* need some tool to compute sb> run-time dependencies. The "full requires for maximal operation" could certainly be determined automatically. I doubt that the minimal runtime requires can. For instance, EUDC can use three different backends none of which is strictly required. Each of them depends on some other package. I can't see how a tool could determine automatically which requirements are really necessary and which just enhance functionality without my writing it explicitely. Oscar

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Re: [patch] automatic loading of package-get-base 25 years, 11 months

Greg Klanderman

>>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper <andyp(a)parallax.co.uk> writes: Andy> Andy> greg(a)alphatech.com (Greg Klanderman) writes: >> Package-get-custom is still disabled. Where should it be writing its >> output file? It seems currently to overwrite the distributed one. Is >> that right? Seems bad to me. Andy> Andy> Yes, it should overwrite the current one since it is completely Andy> autogenerated. It used not to even be in the distribution and got Andy> generated at runtime. Andy> Andy> I would be grateful if you could fix it. What if I'm just Joe User installing packages in ~/.xemacs/packages and *can't* write to /usr/local/...../lisp/package-get-custom.el? Also, that code is really irritating because it causes my cvs updates to always fail on that file. So I'm for taking it out of the distribution, like package-get-base.el. Maybe then it never actually needs to get written out, just eval the right forms which you generate as package-get-base is read in? Another issue is keeping in sync with package-get-base, which is more dynamic now. It isn't loaded until you call a package-get function, and can be updated from mail/news/update files during a session. Guess package-get-custom should just be updated at the same time. In the function package-get-update-base-entry should work. I'll think about it a little more. greg

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package get bust 25 years, 11 months

Andy Piper

I'm sure someone knows this but updating packages from the menubar fails because the remote file package-index.LATEST doesn't exist This pre-LATEST :) updated from cvs today. andy --------------------------------------------------------------------------- " .sigs are like your face - rarely seen by you and uglier than you think" Dr Andy Piper, Technical Architect, Parallax Solutions Ltd mail: andyp(a)parallax.co.uk web: www.parallax.co.uk/~andyp

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Possible bug in hide-ifdef-mode 25 years, 11 months

Malcolm Box

If I do M-x hide-ifdef-mode in a C++/C mode buffer, hide-ifdef minor mode is correctly initialised except for the keymap, which is not bound in. So C-c ＠ just says C-c ＠ not defined, and C-h b errors with "Wrong type argument: keymapp, hide-ifdef-mode-map". This is obviously not a great state of affairs in vanilla xemacs. Cribbing from hideshow.el, it appears that a line of the following form is required: (fset 'hide-ifdef-mode-map hide-ifdef-mode-map) and indeed this cures the problem. The question is, is this the right way to fix the problem and is it Emacs compatible? If someone can assure me as to the rightness of this patch, I'll submit it to xemacs-patches. Cheers, Malcolm

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Where is Emacs CVS/RCS mode? 25 years, 11 months

Simon Josefsson

I downloaded 21.0-b57 and the SUMO tarball and got everything to work by saying --without-jpeg. IRIX 6.3 seem to ship with some old jpeg libraries that doesn't work with XEmacs. Anyway. How do I get the Emacs CVS/RCS mode working? C-x C-q etc. Is there a reasons XEmacs ships with a different CVS library (PCL-CVS?) than Emacs? /s

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Re: XEmacs sumo 25 years, 11 months

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: > > I've been trolling around on www.xemacs.org a bit, but I can't find a > > link anywhere to the sumo packages. Er, like... Where are they? > > ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/packages/xemacs-SUMO-1998-09-19.tar.gz Muchos graçias. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi(a)ifi.uio.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

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Re: The Perfect Patch 25 years, 11 months

Jan Vroonhof

SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: > The mechanical quality of patches going to xemacs-patches has been > going up, and I thank you all for that. As a reminder for those not > familiar with the procedures we use, I will repost an example of what > I consider a perfect patch submission. May one should put this on the web site somewhere? > It contains an explanation of why we need to apply this patch (you > normally don't have to be this detailed, but this kind of detail makes > it *much* easier to read patches and is most welcome). It contains a > ChangeLog entry. It contains a patch rooted in the top-level XEmacs > source directory. And it worked the first time! Jan

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Re: XEmacs sumo 25 years, 11 months

Jan Vroonhof

SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: > ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/packages/xemacs-SUMO-1998-09-19.tar.gz > Lars I think you might prefer the more modern xemacs-sumo-19981014.tar.gz xemacs-sumo-19981014.README in the same directory. A good mirror in Europe is /sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch:mirror/xemacs/packages/ Jan

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Re: egg-its-1.12-pkg.tar.gz, egg-its-1.12-pkg.tar.gz 25 years, 11 months

SL Baur

Tetsuya HOYANO <hoyano(a)ari.bekkoame.ne.jp> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: >> I have got an error in the mini buffer says `cant find egg-startup-file >> on egg-startup-file-search-path' when I try to input Japanese with this >> package. > It's been fixed in egg-its-1.13-pkg.tar.gz already. *Due to your report* ... > Sorry to bothering. You didn't bother, neither did you report in vain. Thanks for reporting this problem.

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Re: [patch] automatic loading of package-get-base 25 years, 11 months

Jan Vroonhof

SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: > Neither perform `package-provide' calls due to the lack of installed > lisp directories. The method for checking what has been installed > should probably be done by perusing the pkginfo directory. Would it possible to give them _pkg.el (and therefore autoloads) for consistency. Yes this means 2% extra stats. However all the current tools work that way. Jan

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