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Re: add package: cvs.el 25 years, 8 months

Frederic Lepied

>>>>> "sb" == SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: sb> Frederic Lepied <fred(a)sugix.frmug.org> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: >>>>>>> "GK" == Greg Klanderman <greg(a)alphatech.com> writes: GK> OK, did you let Fred know this? I'll CC him just in case. GK> greg >>>>>>> "sb" == SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: sb> sb> Oops. There's still a problem with cvs.el-1.31. It binds `C-c v' >> I'm not ready to change the bindings because a lot of people use it >> where I work. But nothing prevent you from distributing it with >> another bindings. sb> We'll have to, unfortunately. C-c [A-Za-z] are strictly forbidden sb> from being bound by distributed Emacs packages because those sb> keybindings are the only keybindings strictly reserved for the user. sb> A compromise would be making an explicit keymap and adding a user sb> option as to where it gets placed. You can then make this go to `C-c v'. that's ok with me. sb> which is forbidden. It also doesn't have any autoloads. The latter sb> is easy enough to deal with. >> You cannot provide autoloads without splitting the package in 2 files >> like vc-hooks and vc. As it is optionnal to use it and not too big, I >> think it could be loaded for those who want to use it. sb> I'm using autoload cookies in the version I currently use, but you're sb> right, there needs to be the same kind of split as in vc. The cookies sb> I'm using autoload too much. sb> I'll think about this. I want cvs.el in the distribution and I want sb> it as conveniently available as possible. If you could provide patches, I'll take them but I'm sorry that I can't help you because I'm very busy with other stuff. -- Fred - May the source be with you

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Re: Remaining package issues in latest (pre8) XEmacs 25 years, 8 months

Greg Klanderman

>>>>> "David" == David Bush <david.bush(a)adn.alcatel.com> writes: David> David> I've noticed one other minor annoyance. If I select "r", the list of David> required packages is built without reqard to whether the packages are David> up to date or not. Yup, that's my fault, I'll look at it tonight. > Darryl Okahata writes: >> > No, it will just ask you if you want to continue without verification. >> >> OK, I'll whack together a patch for this. Are you sure we need a variable to disable the PGP signature verification? >> Whoa. The `package-get-base-filename' needs to be made into a >> plain filename (no directory, unless it's a relative path), that's >> located via the paths in `package-get-remote'. Right now, we've got >> two places that contains ftp site information, and we should be using >> only one (`package-get-remote'). Why make people change two variables >> when one will suffice? (This does, however, raise the problem where the >> `package-get-base-filename' file could be obtained from a different >> location from the other packages.) How about if when it is relative it is searched for in that path? And the default would be relative. I can do this tonight.

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Re: 21.2 isearch keymap bug/changed behavior 25 years, 8 months

SL Baur

Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: > SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: ... >> What's happening is in Gnus summary mode I used to be able to >> isearch for a group and then hit M-g to fetch new mail in it. In >> 21.2 this instead runs the unbound (in Gnus) `goto-line' command. > Does this patch fix the problem for you? Yup. I've applied this patch, thanks. > 1998-10-19 Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> > * isearch-mode.el (isearch-mode): Set the current minor mode maps > and the current local map as the parents to isearch-mode-map.

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Re: 21.2 isearch keymap bug/changed behavior 25 years, 8 months

Hrvoje Niksic

SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: > It appears to stem from this change: > > 1998-09-22 Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> > > * isearch-mode.el (isearch-mode): Use overriding-local-map to set > the keymap, not minor-mode-map-alist. > (isearch-done): Restore overriding-local-map. > > > What's happening is in Gnus summary mode I used to be able to > isearch for a group and then hit M-g to fetch new mail in it. In > 21.2 this instead runs the unbound (in Gnus) `goto-line' command. Does this patch fix the problem for you? 1998-10-19 Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> * isearch-mode.el (isearch-mode): Set the current minor mode maps and the current local map as the parents to isearch-mode-map. --- lisp/isearch-mode.el.orig Mon Oct 19 01:30:17 1998 +++ lisp/isearch-mode.el Mon Oct 19 01:32:43 1998 ＠＠ -466,6 +466,9 ＠＠ isearch-mode (gettext " Isearch") ) + (set-keymap-parents isearch-mode-map + (append (current-minor-mode-maps) + (list (current-local-map)))) ;; XEmacs change: without clearing the match data, sometimes old values ;; of isearch-other-end get used. Don't ask me why... -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- A professor is one who talks in someone else's sleep.

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Re: cvs mirroring 25 years, 8 months

Hans-Guenter Weigand

Darryl Okahata, darrylo(a)sr.hp.com wrote: > >> [ Bleah. Can anyone recommend a good, cheap Linux? ] >> >> Assuming this isn't a joke, I'll point out that free is already about as >> cheap as you can get. I typically shell out a whopping $2.00[1] to either > > It's not a joke. I don't normally do Linux (I use FreeBSD), but >I'll take a stab at doing a Linux port of CVSup, as it's pretty nice. Is it still the case that the Modula-3 compiler still runs only on a few architectures? You should not choose a software which can not be run on every machine XEmacs runs on. Do you want to lock out developers who do not own or want a PC? >However, I know nothing about Linux, except that there're lots of >different variants, and so I'd like some recommendations on which >distribution to get. I don't want to waste time with installation/setup >issues, and so I'd like to know what I should get (it also has to be >compatible with what Steve has). Good luck! I gave up on Linux because of maintainance/upgrading issues. Using *BSD now, 'make build' is so much easier... :) -hgw

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Problems using efs under windows98 25 years, 8 months

Guido Van Hoecke

There are several problems when using efs in "Poitou" (XEmacs 21.0-b57) (running windows98) When starting dired (C-x d /ftp:) to view my home account on unix (accessible thru host named 'ftp'), I get a message saying: '*ftp MyName＠ftp* seems not a pty. Kill? (y or n)' If I reply 'n', the process continues and I get a listing of my home directory on unix, which is what I aimed for. When I want to kill the dired buffer, and the ftp buffer, Xemacs complains: 'Cannot send signal to proces'. Xemacs consistantly refuses to kill the ftp buffer. C-x C-c terminates Xemacs allright, but when looking at the running tasks (using C-A-del), it becomes apparent that there are still three tasks running: Xemacs, Wakeup and Ftp. After a certain timeout, Xemacs crashes with an error popup: "Xemacs This program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down." with following error details: XEMACS caused an invalid page fault in module XEMACS.EXE at 015f:0105ae11. Registers: EAX=60000000 CS=015f EIP=0105ae11 EFLGS=00010202 EBX=6c697562 SS=0167 ESP=00d2f12c EBP=00d2f14c ECX=a1b04804 DS=0167 ESI=0c697562 FS=0f9f EDX=00000001 ES=0167 EDI=00d2f190 GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: 8b 06 25 ff ff ff 0f 5f 5e 5b c3 33 c0 5f 5e 5b Stack dump: 00d2f190 00000000 6c697562 0105f14f 6c697562 00d2f190 00000000 0112e588 00d2f4d4 010181fb a1b20e1c 6c697562 01038ccd a1b04804 00000001 00d2f4d4 After this error, the Xemacs and Ftp tasks have disappeared from the list of running tasks. Eventually the Wakeup task also disappears. Following are my .emacs entries for efs (changed values of userid, password and servers): (if running-xemacs (progn (setq efs-default-user "MyName") (setq efs-default-password "MyPasWd") (setq efs-generate-anonymous-password "ikke(a)aan.mijn.com") (setq efs-gateway-host "gateway.of.my.company.com") ;; avoid complaint about void variable (setq efs-ftp-program-args (list "-i" "-n" "-g" "-v")) (setq efs-gateway-type (list 'proxy "ftp" efs-ftp-program-args)) (require 'efs-auto))) These are the same entries that I use with 20.4 on solaris. I have a similar set for ange-ftp iso efs, which I use with emacs 20.2.1 on solaris and 20.3.1 on windows 98. The ftp program that I am using on windows98 for emacs as well as xemacs is the standard windows ftp.exe program. Symbolic links cause efs to get into an endless loop. This problem is not related to the previously described problem. When - after a fresh (re)start of the system - I want to view a file through its symbolic link name, efs gets into a loop and eventually I get a message "Lisp nesting exceeds 'max-lisp-eval-depth'". The backtrace is attached as backtrace.zip. When this error has occurred, and Xemacs is stopped, one does run in the previously described situation (Xemacs, Ftp and Wakeup tasks remain in the task list, Xemacs crashes, Xemacs and Ftp task disiappears, and later Wakeup also disappears) None of these problems occur when I use the ange-ftp setup under emacs on the same box. Please tell me if there is any other information to be provided or any activities that I can perform to help pinpointing this problem. Guido.

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Re: Link error in 21.2-b2/NT 25 years, 8 months

SL Baur

Sean MacLennan <seanm(a)storm.ca> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: > The problem seems to be in the CLASH_DETECTION code. If you turn off > CLASH_DETECTION, then the above link problems go away. Is > CLASH_DETECTION needed under NT? CLASH_DETECTION is only useful in a multiuser environment, or any situation where multiple XEmacsen can be editing the same file.

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Re: bzip2, please get it 25 years, 8 months

Hrvoje Niksic

SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: > Due to the better level of compression given by bzip2, I will start > uploading XEmacs releases to ftp.xemacs.org as .tar.bz2 files instead > of the bulkier .tar.gz. :-( Is this really necessary? The number of non-standard things one must have to work with XEmacs is growing at a very fast rate. Now that gzip has been practically a standard thing for years, could we please stick to it? > The 21.0 release (whenever that will be) will have both .tar.gz and > .tar.bz2 files. Both egcs and the Linux kernel have been issuing > simultaneous .tar.gz and .tar.bz2 files and it's time we do too. I have no problems with sumultaneous .gz and .bz2 release. bz2-only is what bothers me. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- - Now what did we learn from this? - I learned what my liver looks like!

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Re: Link error in 21.2-b2/NT 25 years, 8 months

Hrvoje Niksic

Raymond Toy <toy(a)rtp.ericsson.se> writes: > >>>>> "Stefan" == Stefan Tilkov <stilcom(a)gmx.net> writes: > > Stefan> Thanks to all who replied! I used Sean's stubs, added my > Stefan> own for readlink() and symlink(), implemented rindex() > Stefan> and index() and managed to compile and link everything. > > Surely NT has strchr and strrchr? It must have them; they are required by ANSI. If XEmacs does use (r)index anywhere in the sources, it's a bug that should be fixed. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- A radioactive cat has eighteen half-lives.

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Re: cvs mirroring 25 years, 8 months

SL Baur

Darryl Okahata <darrylo(a)sr.hp.com> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: > SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> wrote: >> > CVSup is VERY nice. Really. I'll have to see if I can help Steve >> > get it running. >> >> If you wish to do this, I'll send you the patches I made to get it to >> compile and link (but not run :-() with glibc-2.0.7. > Please. O.K. >> > [ Bleah. Can anyone recommend a good, cheap Linux? ] > Which variant are you using? This won't be an option. I use Steve/Linux, essentially built from scratch. Once upon a time, it was Slackware 2.2/a.out. The main differences between it and RedHat is that everything is built with pgcc/egcs, it is dual libc5/libc6 and I'm using the close to stable 2.1 kernel series. Only the latter should make any difference and it's easy to upgrade kernels. I'd personally recommend RedHat 5.1 and I do have access to a RedHat 5.1 box.

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