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Re: bzip2, please get it 25 years, 6 months

Joerg Plate

> Here's my vote against bzip. "bzip" and "bzip2" are different programs (although I'd prefer "bzip"). > Everybody (sic) has a local call to their ISP, right? Very wrong... $1.5/h Use both "bzip2" and "gzip" and everybody is happy. -- "i'm working on it"

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folding.el v2.46 (isearch bug corrected) 25 years, 6 months

Jari Aalto

Hi, I just sent patch to Anders, which corrects the annoying isearch-does-not-enter-folds bug. Get it at ftp://ftp.csd.uu.se/pub/users/andersl/beta/ when he updates his copy. Alternative available from mailserver: Send email to my address with "Subject: send folding.el" jari

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Re: Bench Mark Results 25 years, 6 months

Adrian Aichner

>>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper <andyp(a)parallax.co.uk> writes: Hello Andy, seems like my little notebook holds up pretty well in the benchmark, although it's a real drag when running any MS programs like Word, Excel and such. M-x all-hail-xemacs CPU Manufacturer (Intel,HP,DEC,etc.): Intel CPU Type (Pentium,Alpha): x86 Family 5 Model 4 Stepping 4, GenuineIntel (MMX) CPU Speed: 166 MHz RAM (in meg): 48MB Emacs Version: 21.0 "Pyrenean-pre6" XEmacs Lucid Emacs (version): XEmacs 21.0 "Pyrenean-pre6" [Lucid] (i386-pc-win32) of Mon Oct 19 1998 on TWILIGHT Compile line: nmake -f xemacs.mak HAVE_MSW=1 HAVE_NATIVE_SOUND=1 HAVE_XPM=1 XPM_DIR="c:\export\home\tmp\xpm-3.4k" HAVE_PNG=1 PNG_DIR="c:\export\home\tmp\libpng-1.0.2" HAVE_TIFF=1 TIFF_DIR="c:\export\home\tmp\tiff-v3.4" HAVE_JPEG=1 JPEG_DIR="c:\export\home\tmp\jpeg-6b" ZLIB_DIR="c:\export\home\tmp\zlib" DEBUG_XEMACS=0 install Bench Version: 1.2 Function Name Call Count Elapsed Time Average Time ===================================== ========== ============ ============ bench-mark-byte-compile 1 10.294999999 10.294999999 bench-mark-delete-frame 1 0.0200000000 0.0200000000 bench-mark-delete-multiple-frames 1 0.0400000000 0.0400000000 bench-mark-font-lock 1 2.2130000000 2.2130000000 bench-mark-hanoi 1 7.1200000000 7.1200000000 bench-mark-insert-into-empty-buffer 1 0.0 0.0 bench-mark-large-list 10 0.0100000000 0.0010000000 bench-mark-large-list-garbage-collect 1 0.7410000000 0.7410000000 bench-mark-loop 1 0.0899999999 0.0899999999 bench-mark-make-frame 1 0.4599999999 0.4599999999 bench-mark-make-multiple-frames 1 0.1809999999 0.1809999999 bench-mark-make-words 1 0.0199999999 0.0199999999 bench-mark-scrolling-down 1 32.207000000 32.207000000 bench-mark-scrolling-down-fontified 1 34.939999999 34.939999999 bench-mark-scrolling-up 1 31.345000000 31.345000000 bench-mark-scrolling-up-fontified 1 33.739000000 33.739000000 bench-mark-small-list 100 0.0099999999 9.99...e-005 bench-mark-small-list-garbage-collect 1 0.6010000000 0.6010000000 bench-mark-sort-words 1 4.0849999999 4.0849999999 Andy> I ran bench-test with bench-small.el == gnus.el under I used gnus.el of gnus-version "Gnus v5.6.44" Andy> cygwin. How does this compare to the native build anyone, or I run a native build (see "Compile line:" above). Andy> linux on a similar spec The spec of my notebook PC is not very similar to yours, which is more unfortunate for me than for you :-) Regards, Adrian

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Re: Can not add another info directory to infopath 25 years, 6 months

Oscar Figueiredo

>>>>> "APA" == Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: APA> [...] It seems that at least the docstring for `Info-directory-list' is APA> out of date, since it is a (defvar ...), not a (defcustom ...). Looks like... APA> What will be the right way in 21.0 to extend the info directory list APA> with support for "dir" files? defcustom-ing `Info-directory-list' is trivial, however this variable is initialized by Michael's startup code, so I don't know if it is safe to do it. I leave the latest word on this to him. Oscar

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Re: Can not add another info directory to infopath 25 years, 6 months

Adrian Aichner

>>>>> "Robert" == Robert Clifford <rcliff(a)panix.com> writes: Robert> Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: >> >>>>> "Robert" == Robert Clifford <rcliff(a)panix.com> writes: >> Robert> I tried to add /var/info to xemacs-21.2-b3 to read its Robert> dir, but I could not find a way of adding it, other than >> >> How? >> Robert> to modify setup-paths.el >> Robert> There is a way to add the directory but that way does not >> >> Which is? >> Robert> read the dir file, so the files don't appear when info is Robert> evoked. >> >> Try adding /var/info to >> >> `Info-directory-list' (buffer: *Buffer List*, mode: Buffer Menu) Robert> I tried this before, as per the doc-string. But when I try: Robert> customize-variable, I get a beep when I type in Info-directory-list. Robert> If I use completion after I type Info- , I get a list of variables, Robert> none of which are Info-directory-list. If I try help .. v and type Robert> Info-directory-list, I get the current value and the doc-string which Robert> decribes using "customize-variable" etc. Does customize-variable Robert> allow you to use Info-directory-list on your system? It won't here, Robert> on the latest 21.0 and 21.2. Interesting, I can see the same behavior, when I try completion in (emacs-version) "XEmacs 21.0 \"Pyrenean-pre6\" [Lucid] (i386-pc-win32) of Mon Oct 19 1998 on TWILIGHT" M-x customize-group RET info RET gives me Additional Search Directory List: * [INS] [State]: this option is unchanged from its standard setting. List of additional directories to search for Info documentation * amongst others. Oscar, Info-nauts: It seems that at least the docstring for `Info-directory-list' is out of date, since it is a (defvar ...), not a (defcustom ...). What will be the right way in 21.0 to extend the info directory list with support for "dir" files? Regards, Adrian Robert> I tried to use the variable via the .emacs file, but I could not find Robert> the syntax that would keep the existing values, and add one new value Robert> to the end. Here's what I have in my .emacs: (custom-set-variables <lines deleted by Adrian> '(Info-directory-list (quote ("/Program Files/XEmacs/packages/info" "/Program Files/XEmacs/Xemacs-21.0/info" "/opt/gnu/info" "/usr/local/info")) t) <lines deleted by Adrian> '(message-signature t)) Regards, Adrian Robert> Thank you for all you do. Robert> Robert >> >> >> Variable: >> >> value: see below >> >> List of directories to search for Info documentation files. >> >> The first directory in this list, the "dir" file there will become >> the (dir)Top node of the Info documentation tree. If you wish to >> modify the info search path, use `M-x customize-variable, >> Info-directory-list' to do so. >> >> value: >> ("/Program Files/XEmacs/packages/info" "/Program pp >> Files/XEmacs/Xemacs-21.0/info" >> "/opt/gnu/info" >> "/usr/local/info") >> >> >> Property-list: >> >> force-value: t >> saved-value: ((quote ("/Program Files/XEmacs/packages/info" >> "/Program Files/XEmacs/Xemacs-21.0/info" "/opt/gnu/info" >> "/usr/local/info"))) >> >> Good Luck, >> >> Adrian Robert> -- Robert> Robert Clifford, ESCC New York City rcliff(a)panix.com Robert> "I think I've got the hang of it now .... :w :q :wq :wq! ^d X exit X Q Robert> :quitbye CtrlAltDel ~~q :~q logout save/quit :!QUIT ^[zz ^[ZZ ZZZZ ^H ^＠ Robert> ^L Robert> ^[c ^# ^E ^X ^I ^T ? help helpquit ^D^d ^C ^c help exit ?Quit ?q" (Ed Robert> Wright)

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File-coding and -O3? 25 years, 6 months

Andy Piper

I've noticed that file-coding doesn't work under cygwin when compiled with -O3. I'm wondering if anyone using egcs 1.x on x86 (e.g. linux) sees the same problem? Basically compile with file-coding and open a dos-style text file. You should see Noconv:T if its working and Noconv if its not. andy --------------------------------------------------------------------------- " .sigs are like your face - rarely seen by you and uglier than you think" Dr Andy Piper, Technical Architect, Parallax Solutions Ltd mail: andyp(a)parallax.co.uk web: www.parallax.co.uk/~andyp

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Richard Stallman: Emacs 19 25 years, 6 months

Rick Campbell

I think that it's very interesting to see how RMS' tune has changed over the years. Initially he was so worried that Lucid would ask people to stop hacking on FSF's version of GNU Emacs (never happened), but said that *he* would never do so. However, for several years now, he's been doing exactly that. Rather than just letting the quality of `competing' (at least in his mind) free software speak for itself, he finds the need to plead to people to stay with him. In fact many of the XEmacs developers continue to contribute to FSF's Emacs. Most XEmacs package developers try to keep their code compatible with both versions. It's quite clear to those of us who've seen the situation unfold that there's really only one stick-in-the-mud who insists on generating the tensions around this issue. And for what it's worth, the silliness about signing legal papers hadn't started yet when the schism occurred. Claiming that this was an attempt to ``gain a short-term advantage'' is just another bit of RMS revisionist history. Before long we'll be hearing about how Richard and Jamie jumped him in an alley while he was walking home after fully implementing all of the new features himself, stole his code, and then presented it as their own :-) Maybe *that's* why years later he has to handle the situation with all of the maturity of my children fighting over a toy. Rick

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Re: Can not add another info directory to infopath 25 years, 6 months

Robert Clifford

Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: > >>>>> "Robert" == Robert Clifford <rcliff(a)panix.com> writes: > > Robert> I tried to add /var/info to xemacs-21.2-b3 to read its > Robert>dir, but I could not find a way of adding it, other than > > How? > > Robert> to modify setup-paths.el > > Robert> There is a way to add the directory but that way does not > > Which is? > > Robert> read the dir file, so the files don't appear when info is > Robert>evoked. > > Try adding /var/info to > > `Info-directory-list' (buffer: *Buffer List*, mode: Buffer Menu) I tried this before, as per the doc-string. But when I try: customize-variable, I get a beep when I type in Info-directory-list. If I use completion after I type Info- , I get a list of variables, none of which are Info-directory-list. If I try help .. v and type Info-directory-list, I get the current value and the doc-string which decribes using "customize-variable" etc. Does customize-variable allow you to use Info-directory-list on your system? It won't here, on the latest 21.0 and 21.2. I tried to use the variable via the .emacs file, but I could not find the syntax that would keep the existing values, and add one new value to the end. Thank you for all you do. Robert > > > Variable: > > value: see below > > List of directories to search for Info documentation files. > > The first directory in this list, the "dir" file there will become > the (dir)Top node of the Info documentation tree. If you wish to > modify the info search path, use `M-x customize-variable, > Info-directory-list' to do so. > > value: > ("/Program Files/XEmacs/packages/info" "/Program > Files/XEmacs/Xemacs-21.0/info" > "/opt/gnu/info" > "/usr/local/info") > > > Property-list: > > force-value: t > saved-value: ((quote ("/Program Files/XEmacs/packages/info" > "/Program Files/XEmacs/Xemacs-21.0/info" "/opt/gnu/info" > "/usr/local/info"))) > > Good Luck, > > Adrian -- Robert Clifford, ESCC New York City rcliff(a)panix.com "I think I've got the hang of it now .... :w :q :wq :wq! ^d X exit X Q :quitbye CtrlAltDel ~~q :~q logout save/quit :!QUIT ^[zz ^[ZZ ZZZZ ^H ^＠ ^L ^[c ^# ^E ^X ^I ^T ? help helpquit ^D^d ^C ^c help exit ?Quit ?q" (Ed Wright)

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bzip2, please get it 25 years, 6 months

SL Baur

[Cc'ed to the bzip2 author] US Mirror: http://www.digistar.com/bzip2/ Main Site: (Very slow in the USA) http://www.muraroa.demon.co.uk/ A copy has been placed on the XEmacs FTP site: ftp://ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/aux/bzip2-0.9.0b.tar.gz Due to the better level of compression given by bzip2, I will start uploading XEmacs releases to ftp.xemacs.org as .tar.bz2 files instead of the bulkier .tar.gz. The 21.0 release (whenever that will be) will have both .tar.gz and .tar.bz2 files. Both egcs and the Linux kernel have been issuing simultaneous .tar.gz and .tar.bz2 files and it's time we do too. Note that the bzip2 webpage includes a patch to GNU tar so `tar z' can work on them. The current version comes with a library just like zlib. It might be an interesting project to bind it at the lisp level as a loadable module or something like that. Someone who can, might wish to create binaries and a DLL for microsoft windows, in which case they should be added to aux/ as well. For those who had problems with previous versions of bzip2, please give this a try and let me know how things go.

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Re: Can not add another info directory to infopath 25 years, 6 months

Robert Clifford

Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: > >>>>> "Robert" == Robert Clifford <rcliff(a)panix.com> writes: > > Robert> I tried to add /var/info to xemacs-21.2-b3 to read its > Robert>dir, but I could not find a way of adding it, other than > > How? > > Robert> to modify setup-paths.el > > Robert> There is a way to add the directory but that way does not > > Which is? > > Robert> read the dir file, so the files don't appear when info is > Robert>evoked. > > Try adding /var/info to > > `Info-directory-list' (buffer: *Buffer List*, mode: Buffer Menu) I tried this before, as per the doc-string. But when I try: customize-variable, I get a beep when I type in Info-directory-list. If I use completion after I type Info- , I get a list of variables, none of which are Info-directory-list. If I try help .. v and type Info-directory-list, I get the current value and the doc-string which decribes using "customize-variable" etc. Does customize-variable allow you to use Info-directory-list on your system? It won't here, on the latest 21.0 and 21.2. I tried to use the variable via the .emacs file, but I could not find the syntax that would keep the existing values, and add one new value to the end. Thank you for all you do. Robert > > > Variable: > > value: see below > > List of directories to search for Info documentation files. > > The first directory in this list, the "dir" file there will become > the (dir)Top node of the Info documentation tree. If you wish to > modify the info search path, use `M-x customize-variable, > Info-directory-list' to do so. > > value: > ("/Program Files/XEmacs/packages/info" "/Program > Files/XEmacs/Xemacs-21.0/info" > "/opt/gnu/info" > "/usr/local/info") > > > Property-list: > > force-value: t > saved-value: ((quote ("/Program Files/XEmacs/packages/info" > "/Program Files/XEmacs/Xemacs-21.0/info" "/opt/gnu/info" > "/usr/local/info"))) > > Good Luck, > > Adrian

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