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Re: order of ~/.xemacs/init.el and ~/.xemacs/custom.el 22 years, 9 months

Mike FABIAN

"Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull(a)sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> writes: > >>>>> "Alexey" == Alexey Mahotkin <alexm(a)hsys.msk.ru> writes: > > Alexey> I have seen real reasons to swap the order and at the same > Alexey> time there were mostly no reasons to not to swap the order > Alexey> (and those that were are easily worked around). Am I > Alexey> right? > > This is theory, which I believe to be correct. However, untested. > > Alexey> Could we all hope that it'll be fixed by swapping the > Alexey> loading order in 21.4.next and 21.5? Stephen, please > Alexey> notify current Cc: list when you'll do that :) > > As usual, my policy for 21.4 is to wait for 21.5 to try it, and listen > for the lack of screams of outrage. I'm about ready to apply Didier's > patches to make the "rename custom.el" hack work correctly. But that > should be transparent to current users who don't use it. > > I would very much like to see a patch to 21.5 to reverse the default > order, but it has a lot more potential to surprise users. Eg, it will > definitely _surprise_, albeit pleasantly, those who have gotten used > to the ugliness of first frame in default 'default face, later frames > in customized 'default face. There may be unpleasant surprises of > that type lurking as well. > > Stability first for 21.4. I also force loading of the custom.el file first in my init.el, because it can even happen that all customizations are lost when custom.el is loaded after init.el. I got bitten by that once. For example, if the "desktop" package is loaded in init.el and this leads to opening a html file, XEmacs will query the user for his e-mail-address, although this e-mail-address is already stored in custom.el (but custom.el is not yet loaded). Then, XEmacs will offer to save the e-mail-address for future sessions. If one makes the mistake of answering 'y', all customizations will be overwritten, because custom.el was not read yet, therefore XEmacs knows of no customizations besides the e-mail address just entered. It will then write out a custom.el containing *only* this e-mail-address, deleting everything else. Therefore, I have the following as the first lines of init.el: (setq custom-file "~/.xemacs/custom.el") (load "~/.xemacs/custom.el") -- Mike Fabian <mfabian(a)suse.de> http://www.suse.de/~mfabian 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

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^M in search-buffers.el 22 years, 9 months

Vin Shelton

Steve, Thanks for the new package organization. I think it's a lot clearer. I just tried to build all the packages for the first time in awhile, and in the edit-utils package I got the following error: While compiling toplevel forms in file /usr/local/build/xemacs-packages-2001-07-04/xemacs-packages/edit-utils/search-buffers.el: !! End of stream ((#<buffer " *Compiler Input*">)) When I looked at the file, it seems that every line is terminated with ^M. Since I am trying to build with a non-Mule XEmacs, the ^Ms confuse the byte compiler. I could submit a patch if you want. Just let me know. - vin

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Yet Another Update of ilisp. This time it's right, for sure. 22 years, 9 months

Steve Youngs

ilisp-1.19-pkg.tar.gz is in Pre-Releases, go get 'im. Adrian, if this doesn't work, the work around is: 1) Run fdisk and delete any FAT/FAT32 partitions you find. 2) Boot from a GNU/Linux floppy or CD (any distribution will do, but my preference would be Slackware). 3) Install GNU/Linux All your problems solved! -- |---<Steve Youngs>---------------<GnuPG KeyID: 9E7E2820>---| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |------------------------------------<youngs(a)xemacs.org>---|

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XEmacs crash on sparc-sun-solaris2.5.1 on startup inside X 22 years, 9 months

Nix

Built with gcc-2.95.3. Building worked, last month, but now a newly built XEmacs dies on startup. As far as I know nothing has changed on the Sun box in question --- but I am not root so things may have changed on it without my knowledge), boom. I've turned virtually everything off and it still happens. I haven't been able to get XEmacs-21.4.[23] to work in X since the problem started happening, which is frustrating :( /u03/home/nalcock/repo-src/xemacs/21.4.3/configure '--prefix=/u03/home/nalcock' '--exec-prefix=/u03/home/nalcock/.packages.bin/`/u03/home/nalcock/bin/config .guess`' '--infodir=/tmp/gnu/bar' '--infopath=/u03/home/nalcock/info' '--datadir=/u03/home/nalcock/lib' '--mandir=/u03/home/nalcock/man' '--statedir=/u03/home/nalcock/var/run' '--verbose' '--with-gcc' '--with-mule=no' '--with-xim=no' '--with-xfs=no' '--with-sound=no' '--prefix=/u03/home/nalcock' XEmacs 21.4.3 "Academic Rigor" configured for `sparc-sun-solaris2.5.1'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /u03/home/nalcock/repo-src/xemacs/21.4.3 Installation prefix: /u03/home/nalcock Runtime library search path: /usr/dt/lib:/usr/openwin/lib:/u03/home/nalcock/.packages.bin/sparc-sun-solar is2.5.1/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.5.1/2.95.3:/u03/home/nalcock/.package s.bin/sparc-sun-solaris2.5.1/lib Operating system description file: `s/sol2.h' Machine description file: `m/sparc.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wshadow -Wsign-compare -Wpointer-arith Relocating allocator for buffers: yes GNU version of malloc: yes Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/dt/include /usr/openwin/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/dt/lib /usr/openwin/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. Using Motif native widgets. TTY: Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). WARNING: ----------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling without XPM image support. WARNING: You should strongly consider installing XPM. WARNING: Otherwise toolbars and other graphics will look suboptimal. WARNING: (a copy may be found in ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/aux) WARNING: ----------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: ----------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling without PNG image support. WARNING: You should strongly consider installing the PNG libraries. WARNING: Otherwise certain images and glyphs may not display. WARNING: (a copy may be found in ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/aux) WARNING: ----------------------------------------------------------- Sound: Databases: Compiling in support for DBM. Internationalization: Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Compiling in support for ToolTalk. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Stack backtrace: #0 0xef1f4a90 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.1 (gdb) bt #0 0xef1f4a90 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.1 #1 0x770fc in fatal_error_signal (sig=11) at /u03/home/nalcock/repo-src/xemacs/21.4.3/src/emacs.c:535 #2 <signal handler called> #3 0xef4b2254 in XtInitializeWidgetClass () from /lib/libXt.so.4 #4 0xef4b24e0 in _XtCreate () from /lib/libXt.so.4 #5 0xef4b2c04 in _XtCreatePopupShell () from /lib/libXt.so.4 #6 0xef4b2c68 in XtCreatePopupShell () from /lib/libXt.so.4 #7 0x161d14 in x_create_widgets (f=0x436200, lisp_window_id=2144260, parent=2144260) at /u03/home/nalcock/repo-src/xemacs/21.4.3/src/frame-x.c:1957 #8 0x16224c in x_init_frame_1 (f=0x436200, props=2144260) at /u03/home/nalcock/repo-src/xemacs/21.4.3/src/frame-x.c:2184 #9 0xd300c in Fmake_frame (props=2144260, device=4897280) at /u03/home/nalcock/repo-src/xemacs/21.4.3/src/frame.c:395 #10 0x7fca4 in Ffuncall (nargs=2, args=0xefffcac4) at /u03/home/nalcock/repo-src/xemacs/21.4.3/src/eval.c:3528 #11 0x54b04 in execute_optimized_program (program=0x4d906d "\211\020\026\020\r!\025\016\021!\210\211\024\207ff\a\r\220＠", stack_depth=2, constants_data=0x300f10) at /u03/home/nalcock/repo-src/xemacs/21.4.3/src/bytecode.c:746 #12 0x5475c in funcall_compiled_function (fun=2986940, nargs=0, args=0xefffcc98) at /u03/home/nalcock/repo-src/xemacs/21.4.3/src/bytecode.c:515 #13 0x7fe70 in Ffuncall (nargs=0, args=0xefffcc94) at /u03/home/nalcock/repo-src/xemacs/21.4.3/src/eval.c:3563 #14 0x54b04 in execute_optimized_program ( program=0x3009b5 "\210* \210 \210r!q\210 \210!\210\016\036a\005\016\037 \210) a\b \004 \210 \210\026 \004!)\207)\216\020", stack_depth=0, constants_data=0x34f210) at /u03/home/nalcock/repo-src/xemacs/21.4.3/src/bytecode.c:746 #15 0x5475c in funcall_compiled_function (fun=3465808, nargs=0, args=0xefffce68) at /u03/home/nalcock/repo-src/xemacs/21.4.3/src/bytecode.c:515 #16 0x7fe70 in Ffuncall (nargs=0, args=0xefffce64) at /u03/home/nalcock/repo-src/xemacs/21.4.3/src/eval.c:3563 #17 0x54b04 in execute_optimized_program (program=0x26f39d "\210)\016+\003 \207", stack_depth=0, constants_data=0x34f410) at /u03/home/nalcock/repo-src/xemacs/21.4.3/src/bytecode.c:746 #18 0x5475c in funcall_compiled_function (fun=3465752, nargs=0, args=0xefffcf90) at /u03/home/nalcock/repo-src/xemacs/21.4.3/src/bytecode.c:515 #19 0x7f808 in Feval (form=3412272) at /u03/home/nalcock/repo-src/xemacs/21.4.3/src/eval.c:3388 #20 0x7bea4 in condition_case_1 (handlers=2144356, bfun=0x7f090 <Feval>, barg=3412272, hfun=0x5e920 <cmd_error>, harg=2144260) at /u03/home/nalcock/repo-src/xemacs/21.4.3/src/eval.c:1651 #21 0x5e9b0 in top_level_1 (dummy=1961984) at /u03/home/nalcock/repo-src/xemacs/21.4.3/src/cmdloop.c:206 #22 0x83cc4 in internal_catch (tag=2224300, func=0x5e974 <top_level_1>, arg=2144260, threw=0x0) at /u03/home/nalcock/repo-src/xemacs/21.4.3/src/eval.c:1317 #23 0x5e09c in initial_command_loop (load_me=2144260) at /u03/home/nalcock/repo-src/xemacs/21.4.3/src/cmdloop.c:285 #24 0x78a70 in sort_args (argc=1955840, argv=0xefffd48c) at /u03/home/nalcock/repo-src/xemacs/21.4.3/src/emacs.c:2344 This box is essentially totally unpatched. -- `I'm not sure whether libtool is an existence proof that you _can_ write a shell script that handles its arguments correctly, or a demonstration that you may try but you are doomed to failure.' -- Zack Weinberg

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Re: Xemacs with Java 22 years, 9 months

Paul Krause

JDE depends on several other packages which you also must install. The following list is probably the minimum you should try to run with: cc-mode debug edit-utils efs eieio elib fsf-compat os-utils net-utils prog-modes semantic speedbar xemacs-base ----- Original Message ----- From: Pablo Iglesias To: webmaster(a)xemacs.org Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 3:03 AM Subject: Xemacs with Java We have installed the binary package "xemacs-21.1.3-sparc-sun-solaris2.6.tar.gz" and then we installed the jde package, but we don't get XEmacs to recognize the Java Language. We'd like you report us any solution to this problem. Are there any solution to this problem more esay? Xemacs only recogniza C and Lisp when I install it. Thank you Pablo Iglesias Veiga Networks Laboratory Centro de Innovación y Servicios (CIS-Galicia) piveiga(a)cisgalicia.org Feedback from/Install/index.html

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Re: libgr link 22 years, 9 months

Adrian Aichner

>>>>> "Golubev" == Golubev I N <gin(a)mo.msk.ru> writes: Golubev> <ftp://ftp.ctd.comsat.com/pub/linux/ELF/> referenced by Golubev> <http://www.xemacs.org/Architecting-XEmacs/index.html> is Golubev> likely to be obsolete. Hi Golubev, All, would you happen to know where libgr lives now? My searches haven't led anything that looks like the authoritative site. Best regards, Adrian -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/

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["Pablo Iglesias" <piveiga@cisgalicia.org>] Xemacs with Java 22 years, 9 months

Adrian Aichner

Who can help? Thanks in advance, Adrian -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/

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Updated package in Pre-Release (net-utils) 22 years, 9 months

Steve Youngs

An updated net-utils package is now in Pre-Release. net-utils-1.17-pkg.tar.gz ------------------------- 2001-07-05 Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org> * webjump.el (webjump-sample-sites): Update webster site. 2001-07-03 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> * emacsbug.el(report-emacs-bug-address): Move comment closer. Change to "xemacs-beta(a)cvs.xemacs.org" to improve response time. Just let me know if you need a hand with installing this. -- |---<Steve Youngs>---------------<GnuPG KeyID: 9E7E2820>---| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |------------------------------------<youngs(a)xemacs.org>---|

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Updated ilisp package in Pre-Releases 22 years, 9 months

Steve Youngs

Yep, I fubar'd again. :-( This time it was ilisp. There is now ilisp-1.18-pg.tar.gz in the Pre-Release directory. I apologise for the fuckage. -- |---<Steve Youngs>---------------<GnuPG KeyID: 9E7E2820>---| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |------------------------------------<youngs(a)xemacs.org>---|

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Re: Updated Packages in Pre-Release (A prelude to Sumo). 22 years, 9 months

Steve Youngs

|--==> "APA" == Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org> writes: >>>>>>"Will" == Will Deakin <w.deakin(a)pindar.com> writes: Will> Adrian Aichner wrote: >>>Steven, do you see the funnny >>>../lisp/ilisp/extra//... >>>paths too? Will> Hmmm. This is my fault. The following patch applied to the cvs source Will> Makefile should fix this: One step ahead of you, Will. Already applied. -- |---<Steve Youngs>---------------<GnuPG KeyID: 9E7E2820>---| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |------------------------------------<youngs(a)xemacs.org>---|

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