October 2001 - XEmacs-Beta - XEmacs Mailing List Archives

VM problem when composing two messages at once 23 years, 1 month

Silas S. Brown

This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. In XEmacs 21.4 (patch 4) "Artificial Intelligence" [Lucid] (i386-debian-linux, M ule) of Mon Jul 30 2001 on eeyore configured using `configure --with-sound=native,esd '--cflags=-O2 -g -Wall ' --w ith-x11 --extra-verbose --with-site-lisp --statedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/shar e/info/xemacs-21.4.4 --prefix=/usr --error-checking=none --debug=no --dynamic -- without-postgresql --with-gpm=no --with_menubars=lucid --with_scrollbars=lucid - -with_dialogs=athena --docdir=/usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.4/i386-debian-linux/mule/ --w ith-mule --with-canna=no --with-wnn=no --with-xim=xlib --with-xfs '--package-pat h=~/.xemacs:~/.xemacs/packages::/usr/share/xemacs21/packages:/usr/share/xemacs21 /mule-packages:/usr/share/xemacs21/site-packages' i386-debian-linux' Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug: If you're in VM and you do the following: 1. press M to start a new mail message 2. while the message is being composed, go back to the summary buffer and press R to reply to some other message 3. press Ctrl-C Ctrl-C to send off the reply then the original message frame will turn into a duplicate VM summary/presentation frame, and you have to mess around with buffer selection to get your mail composition back. Recent keystrokes: right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right up left right r RET T h a n k s ! RET RET S i l a s C-c C-c C-x b RET C-x 1 left C-home down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down up up up button1 button1up d up up SPC misc-user Recent messages (most recent first): Loading emacsbug...done Loading emacsbug... Sending...done Wrote /home/ssb22/.vm/Copyself Sending... Wrote /home/ssb22/InetPub/cgisource/access/batch/do-monash Making completion list... Wrote /home/ssb22/bin/accounts/enfour Deleted messages expunged. Expunging... -- Silas S Brown, St John's College Cambridge UK http://www.cus.cam.ac.uk/~ssb22 "He that is hastening to get riches will not remain innocent" - Proverbs 28:20

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VM autosave doubles Escape character; mangles Japanese etc 23 years, 1 month

Silas S. Brown

This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. In XEmacs 21.4 (patch 4) "Artificial Intelligence" [Lucid] (i386-debian-linux, M ule) of Mon Jul 30 2001 on eeyore configured using `configure --with-sound=native,esd '--cflags=-O2 -g -Wall ' --w ith-x11 --extra-verbose --with-site-lisp --statedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/shar e/info/xemacs-21.4.4 --prefix=/usr --error-checking=none --debug=no --dynamic -- without-postgresql --with-gpm=no --with_menubars=lucid --with_scrollbars=lucid - -with_dialogs=athena --docdir=/usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.4/i386-debian-linux/mule/ --w ith-mule --with-canna=no --with-wnn=no --with-xim=xlib --with-xfs '--package-pat h=~/.xemacs:~/.xemacs/packages::/usr/share/xemacs21/packages:/usr/share/xemacs21 /mule-packages:/usr/share/xemacs21/site-packages' i386-debian-linux' Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug: In VM, email containing escape characters (i.e. most Japanese email) can get mangled when the folder is auto-saved. If you recover from an auto-saved session then you are likely to see surplus escape characters everywhere. You don't need a Japanese input method to reproduce this. Try this in VM: 1. Send a mail to yourself with a single escape character (looks like ^[) - press Ctrl-Q then Escape - in the message body. 2. Fetch new mail. 3. Do M-x do-auto-save. 4. Examine the file #INBOX# using "less" or a similar tool. You should find that the escape character has been doubled (now there are two of them). Although it is not doubled when the inbox is saved normally (this is only an auto-save thing). And I've only seen this happen in VM (I've tried auto-saving a text file and cannot reproduce it that way). The bug is more serious than the above description would seem, because it mangles messages in ISO-2022 format (most often used by Japanese). When recovering from an autosaved session, such messages will pick up surplus escape characters all over the place. If this is done several times, and the messages containing escape characters are not examined by the user, then the escape characters could multiply up unnoticed (exponential growth - doubles every time) and significantly increase the size of the inbox, causing thrashing and other problems. This happened to me quite a while ago, and I only now understand why. Recent keystrokes: down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down down C-home C-x b I N TAB RET prior next C-x b RET C-x b RET C-x b RET up down up C-x k RET up down C-x b RET down up m s s b 2 2 button1 button1up C-q ESC C-SPC C-end C-w RET button1 button1up home C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-c C-c g M-x d o - a u TAB RET misc-user C-] misc -user Recent messages (most recent first): Quit Loading emacsbug...done Loading emacsbug... 36 messages, 1 new, 0 unread, 4 deleted End of message 36 from Silas S. Brown 36 messages, 1 new, 0 unread, 4 deleted No messages were archived Archiving... Got mail from /var/mail/ssb22. Wrote /home/ssb22/INBOX -- Silas S Brown, St John's College Cambridge UK http://www.cus.cam.ac.uk/~ssb22 "He that is hastening to get riches will not remain innocent" - Proverbs 28:20

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Chinese email doesn't work in VM 23 years, 1 month

Silas S. Brown

This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. In XEmacs 21.4 (patch 4) "Artificial Intelligence" [Lucid] (i386-debian-linux, M ule) of Mon Jul 30 2001 on eeyore configured using `configure --with-sound=native,esd '--cflags=-O2 -g -Wall ' --w ith-x11 --extra-verbose --with-site-lisp --statedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/shar e/info/xemacs-21.4.4 --prefix=/usr --error-checking=none --debug=no --dynamic -- without-postgresql --with-gpm=no --with_menubars=lucid --with_scrollbars=lucid - -with_dialogs=athena --docdir=/usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.4/i386-debian-linux/mule/ --w ith-mule --with-canna=no --with-wnn=no --with-xim=xlib --with-xfs '--package-pat h=~/.xemacs:~/.xemacs/packages::/usr/share/xemacs21/packages:/usr/share/xemacs21 /mule-packages:/usr/share/xemacs21/site-packages' i386-debian-linux' Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug: Chinese messages (in either GB-2312 or Big5 character sets) sent from the mail program VM do not display correctly in other mailers, and Chinese messages in the GB-2312 character set are not displayed by VM (although Big5 messages display OK). The problem appears to be due to the default values of the variables vm-mime-mule-charset-to-charset-alist and vm-mime-mule-charset-to-coding-alist. I have found by experiment that adding the following lines to my .emacs will work around the problem: (remassoc 'chinese-gb2312 vm-mime-mule-charset-to-charset-alist) (add-to-list 'vm-mime-mule-charset-to-charset-alist '(chinese-gb2312 "gb2312")) (add-to-list 'vm-mime-mule-charset-to-charset-alist '(chinese-big5-1 "big5")) (add-to-list 'vm-mime-mule-charset-to-charset-alist '(chinese-big5-2 "big5")) (add-to-list 'vm-mime-mule-charset-to-coding-alist '("gb2312" gb2312)) Looking at the value of vm-mime-mule-charset-to-charset-alist, it seems that a couple of other languages (e.g. Thai) won't display properly either, but I haven't tried this. Recent keystrokes: down down d d # up up up down down down q q C-k C-k C-k C-k down down down down down button1 button1up up up C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k down C-k down C-SPC C-end C-w M-x m a i l RET s s b 2 2 down L a b SPC s t u f f down down down down down down down C-y C-SPC C-end C-w C-home down down C-k C-k C-k C-k C-k C-c C-c BS b u s SPC p a s s ; SPC b u t t SPC c a r d misc-u ser Recent messages (most recent first): Loading emacsbug...done Loading emacsbug... Sending...done Sending... Wrote /home/ssb22/INBOX Saving... Stuffing attributes... Quitting... Loading vm-virtual...done Loading vm-virtual... -- Silas S Brown, St John's College Cambridge UK http://www.cus.cam.ac.uk/~ssb22 Replace nospam with ssb22 to reply by email "What is now proved was once only imagined" - William Blake

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w3 renders tables wrong 23 years, 1 month

Vaclav Barta

Hi, w3 is nice as a checkbox feature (one can say "xemacs integrates ... web browser ...") but IMHO not really usable as a web client. It can render a simple page, but whenever I try to actually browse with it, I quickly come across a page w3 won't handle. As an example, I've recently written some pages with nested tables; attached is the HTML source and screenshots how it looks in netscape vs. in xemacs. Bye Vasek

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["Silas S. Brown" <ssb22@cam.ac.uk>] VM problem when composing two messages at once 23 years, 1 month

Stephen J. Turnbull

Forwarding to xemacs-beta. You should also report this to VM's author with vm-submit-bug-report. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.

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["Silas S. Brown" <ssb22@cam.ac.uk>] VM won't work on TTY 23 years, 1 month

Stephen J. Turnbull

-- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.

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Re: Crash with 21.4 and 21.5 on SuSE Linux 7.3 23 years, 1 month

Mike FABIAN

Markus Alt <altmark(a)de.ibm.com> writes: > Mike Fabian wrote: > > > > Markus Alt <altmark(a)de.ibm.com> writes: > > > > > a week ago, I've upgraded my system to the new SuSE 7.3 (kernel 2.4.10, > > > glibc 2.2.4, XFree86 4.1.0). The XEmacsen 21.4.4 and 21.5.3 I had built > > > on my old installation (SuSE 7.2 w/ kernel 2.4.7, glibc 2.2.2, XFree86 > > > 4.1.0) still run fine as well as the 21.4.4 that comes with the distro. > > > > > > So far, so good, but as I built 21.4.5 on Wednesday (the build was ok) > > > and started it then, it crashed immediately. Did a standard installation > > > of SuSE 7.3 today on another machine w/o any special configuration to > > > cross-check - same effect. > > > > > > The lisp backtrace: > > > > > > # bind (frame-being-created) > > > make-frame(nil #<x-device on ":0.0" 0x20e3>) > > > frame-initialize() > > > # bind (debugger debug-on-error command-line-args-left) > > > command-line() > > > # (unwind-protect ...) > > > normal-top-level() > > > # (condition-case ... . error) > > > # (catch top-level ...) > > > Segmentation fault > > > > > > The C stack backtrace and the Installation file are attached to this > > > mail. It looks like there's something wrong with the libXt stuff, but > > > replacing the installed XFree86 RPMs with those from the 7.2 distro > > > didn't make any difference. > > > > > > Is anybody seeing a similar behaviour? Any ideas? > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > uname -a: Linux hdacpc 2.4.10-4GB #1 Tue Sep 25 12:33:54 GMT 2001 i686 > > unknown > > > > > > ./configure '--cflags=-O3' '--debug=no' '--error-checking=none' ' > > --prefix=/data' > > > > [...] > > > > You need to add the configure option '--ldflags=-s -znocombreloc'. > > For example like this: > > > > ./configure '--cflags=-O3' '--debug=no' '--error-checking=none' ' > > --prefix=/data' '--ldflags=-s -znocombreloc' > > Works great. Thanks for your help, Mike! > > Could you let me know why I need those options now and didn't need them > with 7.2? Is this kernel and/or glibc related? -zcombreloc has been made the default for 'ld' in the 'binutils' package in SuSE GNU/Linux 7.3. man ld> "combreloc" combines multiple reloc sections and sorts them to man ld> make dynamic symbol lookup caching possible. This speeds up the start of applications, which is especially noticable with huge applications like KDE. Most application have no problems with 'combreloc' but it breaks the dumping mechanisms of both XEmacs and Emacs, therefore it has to be switched off again when building XEmacs or Emacs to revert to the previous default from the binutils package. I have not yet checked whether the portable dumper of XEmacs behaves differently or not. -- Mike Fabian <mfabian(a)suse.de> http://www.suse.de/~mfabian 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

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Multi-version installations 23 years, 1 month

David A. Cobb

I currently have 21.5-b1/i686-pc-cygwin AND 21.4.3/i586-pc-win32. For maximum sharing, particularly of PACKAGES, I configured the windoze version into my Cygwin heierarchy so that I have: Cygwin: [C:/CYGWIN]/usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.5-b1/i686-pc-cygwin/xemacs.exe Windoz: C:/CYGWIN/usr/local/lib/xemacs-21.4.3/i586-pc-win32/xemacs.exe AND [C:/CYGWIN]/usr/local/lib/xemacs-packages/... ENV "EMACSPACKAGEPATH" is set appropriately. When I startup I get a bunch of complaints about various "Autoloads already loaded." If I do describe-variable "late-package-load-path" I find the things I expect from lib/xemacs-packages, but I also find *BOTH* xemacs-21.4.3 and xemacs-21.5-b1 version specific paths at the end of the package-loac-path list. Why? Would somewone please clue me in to how the initialization code deduces the package-load-path; either describe it or point me toward the info pages or even the lisp source. TIA -- David A. Cobb, Software Engineer, Public Access Advocate, All around nice guy. New PGP key 09/13/2001: :<http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=superbiskit&\ fingerprint=on> :<http://wwwkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=superbiskit&\ fingerprint=on> Fingerprint=0x{E7C6_4EE2_6B75_5BA3_C52E__77FA_63C3_9366_DCFB_229B} "By God's Grace I am a Christian man, by my actions a great sinner." --The Way of a Pilgrim, R. M. French [tr.] Potentially Viral Software is any software for which you are not allowed to examine the source. Do not buy or use Potentially Viral Software!

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[comp.emacs,comp.text.tex,comp.emacs.xemacs] Re: Announcement of preview-latex 0.5.8 23 years, 1 month

Adrian Aichner

Anyone interested in commenting? Best regards, Adrian -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/

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XEmacs Services Problem 23 years, 1 month

David Boldt

control-k is taking a full 2 seconds per invocation. other tasks so far seem normal. Solaris 2.6, xemacs 21.4.5 I've moved my .emacs file out of the way ... no change.

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