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[SITE] make over finished(?) 24 years, 9 months

john s jacobs anderson

Greetings. The initial make over work on www.xemacs.org is complete, I think. There are still a couple of holes, particularly in the links sections, and most notably the installation instructions, but everything else is done. Everything is basically in place; all I have to do is move the new front page into place, and the new site will be live. I'm planning on doing that later tonight (say, around 11 PM MDT, or 1600 UTC). I'll post a notice on the front page and the newsgroup when it does go live. I'll be adding more links, etc. over the next week or two, as I work thru my bookmarks file. At some point, the Elisp packages section is going to get expanded, with packages categorized by function and blurb'd as to exactly what they do. I'm also starting to think about the longer term; work on a stronger, faster, smarter, SSI-using, HTML 4 strict/CSS 1 compliant template will begin shortly. If anybody's got a bit of free time this afternoon, they could (a) pound on all the links and make sure I didn't miss something and (b) check for obvious mistakes and typos and stuff. Thanks to everyone who commented, criticized, contributed, or otherwise helped out! john. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ John S Jacobs Anderson Apprentice Geek jacobs(a)azstarnet.com Journeyman Molecular Biologist <URL:http://www.treefort.org/~jacobs/> <- GeneHack:bioinfo*linux*opinion

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Re: [SITE] make over finished(?) 24 years, 9 months

john s jacobs anderson

Andy Piper <andy(a)xemacs.org> writes: > You could also add me to the list of developers for 21.1 and 21.2 :( crap. Sorry Andy; you're in there now. that list was stolen from the FAQ, so that one is incorrect also. Is Christian Nybo still around, or should the FAQ be considered maintainer-less? That is, if he's still maintaining it, I don't want to just make changes to it, but if he's not... Also the 'long list of contributors' from 'About XEmacs' will be added as a separate page RSN. Is there anyone else who I've missed? john. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ John S Jacobs Anderson Apprentice Geek jacobs(a)azstarnet.com Journeyman Molecular Biologist <URL:http://www.treefort.org/~jacobs/> <- GeneHack:bioinfo*linux*opinion

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Re: Problems with text-modes/folding.el and XEmacs 21 24 years, 9 months

Jari Aalto

stefan.becker(a)nokia.com writes: > > Package: text-modes > Version: 1.21 > > ELisp file: text-modes/folding.el > Version : X.x Feb 12 1998 [Jari 2.30] (from the change history) > > [ Jari & Anders: I'm not sure if you are still maintaining folding.el ] Oh yes we are! I was on a long vacating during Summer, but I'm getting back to lisp again. > There seems to be a problem with the folding mode and XEmacs 21.1 (I have > tried .4 and .6). When you try to goto a line inside a sub-fold with a > nesting level 2 or higher you get the following error message: I just downloaded the latest XEmacs 21.2 NT beta, so I will try your bug report as soon as possible. currently I'm not in xemacs lists. I stopped all the lists before my vacation and now I'm seeking the disk space in order to re-subscribe to them all. jari

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Re: eicq package 24 years, 9 months

Oscar Figueiredo

>>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen Tse <stephent(a)sfu.ca> writes: >> [...] See the LDAP package as an excellent example of this. Stephen> Where can I find this package? I guess Steve was actually talking about ldap.el in the lisp/ directory. This file supposedly can be compiled even by a non-LDAP enabled XEmacs binary. Oscar

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Re: [Fwd: Xemacs 21.1.6 minor build problem.] 24 years, 9 months

Michael Sperber

>>>>> "Jason" == Jason Kim <jason(a)meta4.net> writes: Jason> Hi, I just compiled and installed xemacs-21.1.6 on a linux box Jason> (SUSE6.1), Jason> Everything seems to be OK except for the missing DOC file which is Jason> apparently supposed to be in lib-src. What leads you to this conclusion? (The answer is important for addressing your problem.) Specifically, if your installation directory *has* a lib-src file, you have already done something wrong. How did it get there? -- Cheers =8-} Chipsy Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla

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Re: [Jan Vroonhof <vroonhof@math.ethz.ch>] Re: constantly crashing in Gnus 24 years, 9 months

Ulrich Drepper

Hi, I told you that I'm now running a patch Emacs version which works arounf the non existing window and which reports the ID. Now I got three reports: drepper＠otr drepper$ Failed to find frame for window 4800177 Failed to find frame for window 4800177 Failed to find frame for window 480009b I don't know whether they appeared all at the same time. I only saw the messages suddenly. Anyhow here's the xwininfo output: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ xwininfo: Window id: 0x4800177 (has no name) Absolute upper-left X: 1000 Absolute upper-left Y: 92 Relative upper-left X: 565 Relative upper-left Y: 67 Width: 15 Height: 243 Depth: 16 Visual Class: TrueColor Border width: 0 Class: InputOutput Colormap: 0x23 (installed) Bit Gravity State: NorthWestGravity Window Gravity State: NorthWestGravity Backing Store State: NotUseful Save Under State: no Map State: IsViewable Override Redirect State: no Corners: +1000+92 -9+92 -9-433 +1000-433 -geometry 15x243-9+92 xwininfo: Window id: 0x480009b (has no name) Absolute upper-left X: 1000 Absolute upper-left Y: 352 Relative upper-left X: 565 Relative upper-left Y: 327 Width: 15 Height: 245 Depth: 16 Visual Class: TrueColor Border width: 0 Class: InputOutput Colormap: 0x23 (installed) Bit Gravity State: NorthWestGravity Window Gravity State: NorthWestGravity Backing Store State: NotUseful Save Under State: no Map State: IsViewable Override Redirect State: no Corners: +1000+352 -9+352 -9-171 +1000-171 -geometry 15x245-9+352 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This is on my laptop which has a 1024x768 display with 16 bits. The Emacs window is at the right side of the screen. Therefore I'd say these windows are indeed scrollbars. Now that the problems are simply ignored Emacs still runs nicely. If you have more to test just send it. Thanks, -- ---------------. drepper at gnu.org ,-. 1325 Chesapeake Terrace Ulrich Drepper \ ,-------------------' \ Sunnyvale, CA 94089 USA Cygnus Solutions `--' drepper at cygnus.com `------------------------

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Re: kde-xemacs or gnome-xemacs? 24 years, 9 months

SL Baur

William Perry <wmperry(a)aventail.com> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: > SL Baur wrote: >> Qt uses C++ constructors and >> destructors and thus is impossible to use under the current XEmacs >> architecture. > Why do you say that? Based on past experiences with egcs/the new gcc. Constructor stuff can get called before main() and before we have a chance to take any of our usual precautions. I don't fully understand the technical details, but it was giving me corrupted memory and when I asked one of the now-gcc maintainers about how to turn off global constructors, explaining briefly XEmacs startup & dumping, I was told that dumping was stupid and deserved to lose. > Do any GUI objects get dumped? They shouldn't be, but any memory allocation prior to main() can later cause a coredump. > That's the only thing I could think of that would screw up Qt (or > any C++ stuff in general). Qt even has an 'Xt' extension now, where > you can mix & match a Qt & an Xt application. They have examples > for 'mainly xt' and 'mainly qt' flavors of apps. > I think mostly-xt would be the easiest way to get it to work under > XEmacs. Right.

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Re: [SITE] update progress 24 years, 9 months

SL Baur

john s jacobs anderson <jacobs(a)azstarnet.com> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: ... > *THINGS I NEED* > if anyone would like to contribute some screenshots of cool looking > XEmacsen, that would be nice. Whatever happened to David Moore? He was making a collection of XEmacs snapshots at one time.

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Re: kde-xemacs or gnome-xemacs? 24 years, 9 months

SL Baur

Glynn Clements <glynn(a)sensei.co.uk> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: ... > In any case, Lesstif is GPL'd. Even if it isn't yet as reliable as a > real Motif, it should at least allow you to build a Motif-enabled > executable. This doesn't buy a whole lot. Motif is most useful for getting Japanese and stuff into menus and XIM. Lesstif does not work at all in this respect.

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Re: kde-xemacs or gnome-xemacs? 24 years, 9 months

SL Baur

I thought Richard _had_ sanctioned the Qt 2.0 license? Justin Vallon <vallon(a)mindspring.com> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: > Kyle Jones <kyle_jones(a)wonderworks.com> writes: >> Oh, right, this matters for the binary kits. For source >> distributions, we can use any library. > I don't see any difference. Aren't the binary kits dynamically linked > against Motif, anyway. Are you allowed to ship archive linked Motif > applications? You are allowed to ship statically linked Motif binaries. Netscape does it. We have done it.

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