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Re: Portability and usage statistics (was Re: Seppuku and x_IO_error_handler() ) 25 years, 8 months

SL Baur

Karl M Hegbloom <karlheg(a)inetarena.com> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: >>>>>> "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> writes: Hrvoje> karlheg(a)inetarena.com (Karl M. Hegbloom) writes: >>> I think the main reason that those apps are non-portable is >>> that the people who write them have access only to Linux. ... Hrvoje> This is unfortunately not true. More often than not, Hrvoje> these people don't *care* to support anything other than Hrvoje> Linux. I don't know, perhaps, but ... Hrvoje> Didn't you yourself say you didn't care only a few Hrvoje> messages ago? > The only computers I have access to run Linux. That's certainly a good reason. The only general way I can write portable code is to have multiple systems to test on. On the bright side, I have experienced positive portability results from using GNU libc and no extensions. Unfortunately, the glibc documentation is lacking.

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Re: 21.0 hassles 25 years, 8 months

Didier Verna

"Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull(a)sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> writes: > In fact, sumo yokozuna (the top rank; usually there are only 1-3 > active) are more highly esteemed than politicians are despised. Wasn't there a sumotori named Akemono, pretty famous, like 4 years ago? I think I remeber having seen him on TV there.

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Re: 21.0 hassles 25 years, 8 months

Hrvoje Niksic

"Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull(a)sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> writes: > >>>>> "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> writes: > > Hrvoje> (Sumo wrestlers are Japanese wrestlers who are very bulky, > Hrvoje> but also extremely strong and agile for their weight. > Hrvoje> They are supposed to be highly esteemed in Japan.) > > You may delete the "supposed to be." (...) Thanks for the update. My "knowledge" of the Japanese culture is based on American documentaries, so I didn't want to jump ahead of myself. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- You have an unusual magnetic personality. Don't walk too close to metal objects which are not fastened down.

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Re: 21.0 hassles 25 years, 8 months

Hrvoje Niksic

"Matthew O. Persico" <mpersico(a)erols.com> writes: > Pete Ware wrote: > > Yes, SUMO is the way to go for 21.0 but > > that needs to be clearer in the installation files. > > Will somebody PLEAZE PLEAZE PRETTY PLEAZE explain what SUMO stands > for?!?!?!? I think I was the one who first used that term, hinting at the size of a tarball containing all the packages. (Sumo wrestlers are Japanese wrestlers who are very bulky, but also extremely strong and agile for their weight. They are supposed to be highly esteemed in Japan.) -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- "A Real Programmer's code can awe with its fiendish brilliance, even as its crockishness appalls."

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Re: Showstopper update, please read 25 years, 8 months

Michael Sperber

>>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper <andyp(a)parallax.co.uk> writes: Andy> At 07:26 03/09/98 +0100, Ben Wing wrote: >> Hello, I've updated my showstopper list with a few more items, and, >> more importantly, I've added defacto owners to most of thoese items. >> The people chosen as owners are the ones who seem to be actually >> working on these items. Or in a few cases, the ones who seem to be >> most suited for the task. I would like to remove the ``de facto'' >> tags from each of these items. Andy> My understanding is that Windows installer 1 is already fixed and so is Andy> package system 1. Not the latter. I wrote some documentation, but it lacks a whole bunch of things. For example, there should be a section describing how to pull binary packages manually and drop them in a package hierarchy. I didn't write this because I've never done any of these things, and I didn't write the code. I would appreciate if someone who actually once did these things could provide a writeup. I'd be happy to polish it up and make a nice patch for the documentation from it. -- Cheers =8-} Chipsy Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla

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Showstopper update, please read 25 years, 8 months

Ben Wing

Hello, I've updated my showstopper list with a few more items, and, more importantly, I've added defacto owners to most of thoese items. The people chosen as owners are the ones who seem to be actually working on these items. Or in a few cases, the ones who seem to be most suited for the task. I would like to remove the ``de facto'' tags from each of these items. I will do so as soon as the corresponding person speaks up and designates himself as the owner of the task. If anyone wants to disclaim ownership, please speak up as well. Similarily for anyone who is not mentioned, but who wants to become an owner. Ben (typed by Martin)

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[Ben Elliston <bje@cygnus.com>] Collecting autoconf patches 25 years, 8 months

Didier Verna

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Re: [crash] redisplay after widening 25 years, 8 months

Didier Verna

Colin Rafferty <craffert(a)ms.com> writes: > This is 100% reproducible. It does not happen on 20.4. > > System is mips-sgi-irix6.4. XEmacs 21.0-b54. I get it on solaris too: SunOS metheny 5.5 Generic_103093-22 sun4u sparc --didier

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FTP/EFS problems? 25 years, 8 months

Matthew O. Persico

Compiled b54 with VC++ 5.0 on NT4.0-sp3. Dialed into my job, 33Kbps using TCP/IP and PPP. I can use native PC ftp clients. When I try to do an EFS/FTP edit remotely to /persicom＠worknode:, it says something about the conenction not being as pty? It is totally reproducable. What should I set/turn-on/do to get more information for submission? This is HARDLY a complete bug report. Thanks. -- #!/usr/bin/perl -- Matthew O. Persico print "Just Another Perl Neophyte\n"; ## Simplicity is a blessing when you're ## supporting the program at 2AM

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Re: Portability and usage statistics (was Re: Seppuku and x_IO_error_handler() ) 25 years, 8 months

SL Baur

Olivier Galibert <galibert(a)pobox.com> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: > On Tue, Sep 01, 1998 at 04:09:52AM -0700, SL Baur wrote: >> O.K. Let's move on to SGI/Irix. Are we passed the traditional XEmacs >> Fuckage or aren't we? I don't know. Darren Stalder was kindly enough >> to donate access to a system to test on and ... I never heard heard >> anything since from the SGI volunteer. > About irix: > - irix 6.2, 6.4, 6.5, 6.5SE, 6.5.1 : XEmacs compiles out of box with > all the compilers I could put my hands on in any compilation mode > (32 ou 64 bits). O.K. > - irix 6.3 : various reports, nothing clear, most fuckage seemed to > happen because of SGI's graphic libraries and it should be gone now. O.K. > - irix 5.3 : Darren Stalder talked about giving access (I was said > volunteer) but dissepeared just after his mail. I have one or two > ideas about what the problem is, but it seems to be impossible to > reproduce it on 6.x. I plan to go and try doing something about it > in a week or two. O.K. > Sidenote: 90% of the irix problems I saw were due to the undumping > process. The remaining 10% where non-64bits clean code. The > undumping is going to go, and the 64bitedness problems seems to be > fixed. O.K. Colin and Olivier, I'm happy to stand corrected regarding this platform too.

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