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[ANNOUNCE] xemacs-binary-kits: new mailing list 25 years, 10 months

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Announcing a new mailing list, xemacs-binary-kits(a)xemacs.org. xemacs-binary-kits is a seasonal, low volume list for discussion among XEmacs binary-kit builders, and announcements from the binary-kit coordinator. If you have prepared precompiled binary-kits for the XEmacs project in the past, and/or plan to for future releases, you need to be on this list. Please subscribe ASAP since the 21.0 release is imminent, and materials for kit building will be distributed to the list shortly. To subscribe to xemacs-binary-kits, send an email message to xemacs-binary-kits-request(a)xemacs.org with `subscribe' (without the quotes) as the BODY of the message.

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Re: Bug Reports was: Re: Ben's ``Architecting XEmacs'' web site is officially `Open' 25 years, 10 months

SL Baur

Anthony Rossini <rossini(a)biostat.washington.edu> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: ... > If there is interest (Steve, other maintainers), I could set up Jitterbug > somewhere (works reasonably well, just finished doing it here), for > tracking XEmacs bugs... Yes, please. ... > It would just be a matter of finding a machine to do it on... www.xemacs.org seems like a logical choice. > (I've also got a little spare time these next 2 weeks...). The timing is good. :-) Let's get this in place now.

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Re: How many branches? [was: [for 20.2] ~user completion] 25 years, 10 months

SL Baur

Stephen J Turnbull <turnbull(a)sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: > On Ben's site, he recommends 3 concurrent branches. I made a third branch, but after finding out how much extra work it was to manage, I gave it up.

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Re: 28 bit ought to be enough for anyone. 25 years, 10 months

Simon Josefsson

Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> writes: > > I find the 28 bit limit on integers to be extremely painful. > > Build 21.0 betas with `--with-minimal-tagbits'. It raises the 28-bit > limit to 31-bit. We're getting somewhere. :-) > > Would everything break if we link with GMP (a GNU multiple precision > > library which is quite efficient) for the integer stuff? > > That would be cool, but it's a project definitely more complex than > just "linking with GMP". Ok. I'll start by looking around for MP-libraries in elisp, or writing one from scratch, instead. Still, native MP functionality in XEmacs would be very nice, and I was surprised it didn't already exist. /s

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Re: [failure] 21.0-b53 compilation problems on IRIX64 6.4 25 years, 10 months

Simon Josefsson

SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: > > Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libiflTIFF.so...done. > > Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libiflJFIF.so...done. > > Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libiflPNG.so...done. > ... > > Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libifl.so...done. > > These are Irix image libraries, right? Probably. It's quite likely that the machine has been through so many OS-patches that they have broken. > IIRC we've had many problems with them before. First off, try > configuring --with-jpeg=no, --with-png=no, and --with-tiff=no. This works. Thanks. > If that doesn't crash, you might try rebuilding those libraries > with a C compiler and using them in preference to the system > versions. I'm only going to use the binary for testing MP-stuff anyway so I won't bother. /s

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Re: 28 bit ought to be enough for anyone. 25 years, 10 months

William M. Perry

Simon Josefsson <jas(a)pdc.kth.se> writes: > SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: > > > If you're interested in adding this capability, take a look at > > src/database.c which links against libdb and kin, and src/eldap.c > > which links against libldap for examples. > > This looks like a promising starting point, thanks! > > I'm also seeing eldap.{c,h} in modules/eldap/ (lot's of differences > against src/eldap.{c,h}). "Modules" sounds like a Good Thing so should > I take a look at modules/eldap/ instead? > > (As you can tell, I know less than nothing of the internals of XEmacs) I haven't updated the eldap stuff in a while. I'd eventually (22.0 timeframe) like to see the LDAP stuff be available ONLY as a module. Same for base64, gzip encoding, XML parsing, etc. -Bill P.

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Re: [comp.unix.solaris] Re: free solaris licenses; benchmark restriction 25 years, 10 months

SL Baur

Something I agree with Martin about? Surely the end of the world is at hand ... :-) Martin Buchholz <martin(a)xemacs.org> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: >>>>>> "Mark" == Mark Borges <mdb(a)cdc.noaa.gov> writes: Mark> Wouldn't 21.0 be better? I don't think workshop-5.0 is intending to Mark> ship RSN. The first beta, err early access, was just released not too Mark> long ago. > XEmacs 20.4 was (and still is) my recommendation. Absolutely. It is mine as well. > XEmacs 21.0 will need some time to become stable. The folks on > xemacs-beta (and myself, of course) can be bleeding edge, but in the > Real World people should stick with 20.4 for a while. _At least_ until we get things sorted out in 21.1. > XEmacs 20.4 is a damn fine editor. Yup, and it's the perfect choice for the Sun CD.

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[comp.unix.solaris] Re: free solaris licenses; benchmark restriction 25 years, 10 months

Mark Borges

Wouldn't 21.0 be better? I don't think workshop-5.0 is intending to ship RSN. The first beta, err early access, was just released not too long ago.

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Re: [failure] 21.0-b53 compilation problems on IRIX64 6.4 25 years, 10 months

SL Baur

Simon Josefsson <jas(a)pdc.kth.se> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: > Build from a fresh directory. If I can provide more details, please > let me know. Sorry, gcc/egcs isn't installed on the machine. It says > "Memory fault", but the machine has plenty of RAM. "Memory fault" is not an out of memory error. I don't think the lack of gcc/egcs matters. > I can't find the iflFormatLex.c++ file, perhaps it's some external > library failing. Any ideas? > Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libiflTIFF.so...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libiflJFIF.so...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libiflPNG.so...done. ... > Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libifl.so...done. These are Irix image libraries, right? IIRC we've had many problems with them before. First off, try configuring --with-jpeg=no, --with-png=no, and --with-tiff=no. If that doesn't crash, you might try rebuilding those libraries with a C compiler and using them in preference to the system versions. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libCsup.so...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libC.so.2...done. > Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libgen.so...done. > #0 ifl_create_buffer () at iflFormatLex.c++:1416 > iflFormatLex.c++:1416: No such file or directory. > (gdb) bt > #0 ifl_create_buffer () at iflFormatLex.c++:1416 > Current language: auto; currently c++ Icky Poo! > (gdb)

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[failure] 21.0-b53 compilation problems on IRIX64 6.4 25 years, 10 months

Simon Josefsson

Build from a fresh directory. If I can provide more details, please let me know. Sorry, gcc/egcs isn't installed on the machine. It says "Memory fault", but the machine has plenty of RAM. I can't find the iflFormatLex.c++ file, perhaps it's some external library failing. Any ideas? xemacs-21.0-b53{,-info,-elc}.tar.gz was untared. $ ./configure ... XEmacs 21.0 "Erzgeberg" configured for `mips-sgi-irix6.4'. Where should the build process find the source code? /u2/scratch/jas/xemacs-21.0-b53 What installation prefix should install use? /usr/local What operating system and machine description files should XEmacs use? `s/irix6-0.h' and `m/iris4d.h' What compiler should XEmacs be built with? cc -O Should XEmacs use the GNU version of malloc? yes Should XEmacs use the relocating allocator for buffers? yes What window system should XEmacs use? x11 Where do we find X Windows header files? Where do we find X Windows libraries? Compiling in support for XAUTH. Compiling in support for XPM images. -------------------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling without PNG image support. Reason: PNG library version too old (pre 1.0.2)! WARNING: You should strongly consider installing the PNG libraries. WARNING: Otherwise certain images and glyphs may not display. WARNING: (a copy may be found in ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/aux) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Compiling in support for (builtin) GIF image handling. Compiling in support for JPEG image handling. Compiling in support for TIFF image handling. Compiling in native sound support. Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Compiling in support for proper session-management. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. Compiling in DLL support. movemail will use "dot-locking" for locking mail spool files. ... $ make ... 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Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libXm.so.1...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libiflTIFF.so...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libiflJFIF.so...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libiflPNG.so...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libXpm.so.1...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libXmu.so...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libXt.so...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libXext.so...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libX11.so.1...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libdl.so...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libcurses.so...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libaudio.so...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libm.so...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libc.so.1...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libifl.so...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libCsup.so...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libC.so.2...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib32/libgen.so...done. #0 ifl_create_buffer () at iflFormatLex.c++:1416 iflFormatLex.c++:1416: No such file or directory. (gdb) bt #0 ifl_create_buffer () at iflFormatLex.c++:1416 Current language: auto; currently c++ (gdb)

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