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Re: package-get-base props 25 years, 10 months

Oliver Graf

Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: > (load-library "package-get-base") > (load-library "package-get") > > (package-get-package-provider 'echistory) > ;;; evaluating the above (C-x C-e (eval-last-sexp)) > ;;; leads > (xemacs-base "1.20") I know. This was an *example*. Regards, Oliver.

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EFS 1.16 bug: FAILS to work with XEmacs-21.0-b46 on Windows NT 25 years, 10 months

Adrian Aichner

Gruss bug team: Please honor value of `directory-sep-char' instead of using hard-coded "/" throughout the EFS package. I suspect this makes EFS fail on Windows NT. Currently I am running a patched version of xemacs-21.0-b46 which normalizes path names to use Unix syntax so that is works with EFS. Consequently I was not able to verify my assessment of the problem. Please let me know if I can be of further help/nuisance. Schöne Grüße, Adrian cd /export/home/tmp/packages-21.0/lisp/efs/ egrep -ni '"/"' *.el /dev/null Compilation started at Wed Jun 24 23:03:52 1998 efs-auto.el:38: "/" efs-cms-knet.el:25: "/" efs-cms-knet.el:65: (concat "/" path "/") efs-cms-knet.el:79: ((string-equal "/" dir-path) efs-cms-knet.el:107: (if (string-equal dir "/") efs-cms-knet.el:132: (efs-put-hash-entry (concat path md "/") md-tbl efs-cms-knet.el:154: (string-equal "/" dir)) efs-cms-knet.el:234: (if (string-equal rdir "/") efs-cms-knet.el:236: (match-end 3)) "/" name))) efs-cms.el:24: "/" efs-cms.el:87: (return (concat "/" (substring path 0 start)))) efs-cms.el:89: (setq return (concat return "/" efs-cms.el:93: (concat return "/" (substring path start))) efs-cms.el:100: (concat "/" path))) efs-cms.el:137: ((string-equal "/" dir-path) efs-cms.el:285: (or (string-equal "/" dir) efs-coke.el:24: "/" efs-coke.el:37: "/") efs-coke.el:42: (if reverse (concat "/" path) path))) efs-coke.el:46: (if (or (string-equal dir-path "/") (string-equal dir-path "/.")) efs-coke.el:80: (and (string-equal "/" dir) (string-equal "." file))) efs-cp-p.el:26: "/" efs-cu.el:57: "/" efs-cu.el:590: (let* ((key (concat (downcase host) "/" user)) efs-cu.el:598: (let* ((key (concat (downcase host) "/" user)) efs-defun.el:138: "/" <lines deleted by Adrian> Emacs : XEmacs 21.0 "Toggenburg" [Lucid] (sparc-sun-solaris2.5.1, Mule) of Mon Jun 22 1998 on tomorrow Package: efs efs believes that the host type of any is unknown. current state: ============== (setq efs-auto-version "1.16/1.8" efs-cp-p-version "1.16/1.1" efs-cu-version "1.16/1.12" efs-defun-version "1.16/1.1" efs-dired-mule-version "1.16/1.1" efs-dired-version "1.16/1.32" efs-dump-version "1.16/1.2" efs-fnh-version "1.16/1.3" efs-netrc-version "1.16/1.2" efs-ovwrt-version "1.16/1.2" efs-report-version "1.16/1.9" efs-version "1.16/1.56" efs-x19.15-version "1.16/1.2" efs-36-bit-binary-file-name-regexp nil efs-anonymous-umask nil efs-auto-save t efs-auto-save-remotely nil efs-backup-by-copying nil efs-binary-file-host-regexp nil efs-binary-file-name-regexp "\\.\$[zZ]\\|t?gz\\|lzh\\|arc\\|zip\\|zoo\\|ta[rz]\\|dvi\\|sit\\|ps\\|elc\\|gif\\|Z-part-..\\|tpz\\|exe\\|[jm]pg\\|TZ[a-z]?\\|lib\$\$~\\|~[0-9]+~\$?$\\|\\.\$ARC\\|ELC\\|TAGS\\|EXE\\|ZIP\\|DVI|ZOO\\|GIF\\|T?GZ\\|[JM]PG\$\$[.#;][0-9]+\$?$" efs-buffer-name-case nil efs-compute-remote-buffer-file-truename nil efs-debug-ftp-connection nil efs-ding-on-chmod-failure t efs-ding-on-umask-failure t efs-disable-netrc-security-check nil efs-expire-ftp-buffers t efs-ftp-buffer-expire-time nil efs-ftp-program-args '("-i" "-n" "-g" "-v") efs-ftp-prompt-regexp "^\$ftp\\|Ftp\\|FTP\$> *" efs-gateway-ftp-prompt-regexp "^\$ftp\\|Ftp\\|FTP\$> *" efs-gateway-hash-mark-size nil efs-gateway-incoming-binary-hm-size nil efs-generate-anonymous-password t efs-hash-mark-size 1024 efs-high-security-hosts nil efs-incoming-binary-hm-size nil efs-local-apollo-unix nil efs-ls-cache-max 5 efs-make-backup-files '(unix sysV-unix bsd-unix next-unix apollo-unix dumb-unix dumb-apollo-unix super-dumb-unix) efs-max-ftp-buffer-size 3000 efs-maximize-idle nil efs-message-interval 0 efs-nlist-cmd "ls" efs-nslookup-on-connect nil efs-nslookup-program "nslookup" efs-prompt-for-transfer-type nil efs-pty-check-retry-time 5 efs-pty-check-threshold 1000 efs-retry-time 5 efs-root-umask nil efs-send-hash t efs-set-modtimes-synchronously nil efs-short-circuit nil efs-short-circuit-to-remote-root nil efs-suppress-abort-recursive-edit-and-then nil efs-text-file-name-regexp ".*" efs-treat-crlf-as-nl nil efs-umask nil efs-use-passive-mode nil efs-verbose t efs-verify-anonymous-modtime nil efs-verify-modtime-host-regexp ".*" efs-ftp-program-name "ftp" efs-ftp-program-args '("-i" "-n" "-g" "-v") efs-local-host-regexp ".*" efs-ftp-local-host-regexp ".*" efs-gateway-host nil efs-gateway-type nil reporter-version "3.35" features '(reporter efs-report package-get package-admin config package-get-base efs-cp-p find-func bbdb-xemacs cus-edit cus-load wid-edit hyper-apropos info view-less view ediff-merg ediff-diff ediff-tbar ediff-wind ediff-help ediff-util ediff-mult ediff-init ediff timer cc-mode cc-cmds cc-styles cc-align cc-langs cc-engine cc-vars cc-defs cc-menus compile rcompile efs-dired efs-netrc efs-defun efs bookmark pp lazy-shot gnus-msg passwd rlogin shell smiley annotations sort mail-extr mel-q highlight-headers gnus-async gnus-score score-mode gnus-dup gnus-art-mime tm-bbdb bbdb-hooks bbdb-com gnus-art browse-url mailcrypt comint ring gnus-sum-mime gnus-sum nndraft nnmh gnus-cache nnml nnfolder gnus-group gnus-undo gnus-demon nnmail nntp nnoo gnus-setup gnus-start gnus-range gnus-spec gnus-int gnus-win env gnuserv font disp-table pending-del paren blink-paren balloon-help time ps-print time-stamp redo mime-setup message-mime tm-edit signature tm-ew-e tm-partial tm-image images mule-sysdp tm-pgp tm-play tm-view tm-text tm-parse tm-ew-d tm-def std11 mel tm-setup gnus-mime gnus-charset tl-misc tl-str tl-atype 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pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mule-base-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads leim-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads emerge-autoloads egg-its-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edict-autoloads edebug-autoloads dired-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads Sun-autoloads Standard-autoloads vm-loaddefs vc-hooks skk-leim egg-sj3-leim efs-dump ediff-hook loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 menubar-items x-menubar dragdrop mouse mode-motion ccl mule-help itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete derived frame text-props cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote tooltalk file-coding mule lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer lucid-menubars xface motif-dialogs x tty-frames tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses menubar dbm md5 xemacs xim tiff png jpeg xpm cde lisp-float-type usg-unix-v dragdrop-api dialog devices window-system c-balloon-help) ) -- Adrian Aichner Applications Engineer Teradyne GmbH Semiconductor Test Group Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com

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Re: package-get-base props 25 years, 10 months

Adrian Aichner

>>>>> "Oliver" == Oliver Graf <ograf(a)fga.de> writes: Oliver> if there is now the dummy package which requires echistory, and the user has Oliver> xemacs-base *not* installed (only and example!), rpm would say: Oliver> dummy: could not be installed. Oliver> package requires echistory Oliver> Now the first thing a user looks for is a package named Oliver> echistory-x.x-x.noarch.rpm, but he will find non, cause echistory is provided Oliver> by xemacs-base-x.x-x.noarch.rpm. (load-library "package-get-base") (load-library "package-get") (package-get-package-provider 'echistory) ;;; evaluating the above (C-x C-e (eval-last-sexp)) ;;; leads (xemacs-base "1.20") HTH, Adrian Oliver> I want to solve this by only (or perhaps in addition) provide and require only Oliver> *package names*. -- Adrian Aichner Applications Engineer Teradyne GmbH Semiconductor Test Group Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com

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Re: package-get-base props 25 years, 10 months

Pete Ware

But that's an RPM problem, isn't it? When you convert to RPM format you'll want to condense all the requires/provides into the actual package names. Heck, you might even want to make them dependent on the specific package version. --pete

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Re: package-get-base props 25 years, 10 months

Oliver Graf

Pete Ware <ware(a)cis.ohio-state.edu> writes: > Every package should list all the "xxx" symbols for each time it does a > (provides 'xxx) > in the lisp code. You should require things at this level in a > package entry. That way as the contents of packages change (such as > xemacs-base) you don't get screwed. Alternatively, if we ever truly > implement single file packages, then you would only install the > individual files instead of all of them. But in case of RPM package (without a superduper-(notrunning)-GNOME-rpm frontend) the user has the problem to find the package he needs if the requires of an other package only list 'internal' names. Example: xemacs-base provides (add-log advice annotations assoc case-table chistory comint-xemacs comint compile debug ebuff-menu echistory edmacro ehelp electric enriched env facemenu ffap helper imenu iso-syntax macros novice outline overlay passwd pp regi ring shell skeleton sort thing time-stamp timezone xbm-button xpm-button) if there is now the dummy package which requires echistory, and the user has xemacs-base *not* installed (only and example!), rpm would say: dummy: could not be installed. package requires echistory Now the first thing a user looks for is a package named echistory-x.x-x.noarch.rpm, but he will find non, cause echistory is provided by xemacs-base-x.x-x.noarch.rpm. I want to solve this by only (or perhaps in addition) provide and require only *package names*. I hope this makes the topic a bit clearer. Regards, Oliver.

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Re: package-get-base props 25 years, 10 months

Pete Ware

Every package should list all the "xxx" symbols for each time it does a (provides 'xxx) in the lisp code. You should require things at this level in a package entry. That way as the contents of packages change (such as xemacs-base) you don't get screwed. Alternatively, if we ever truly implement single file packages, then you would only install the individual files instead of all of them. Of course, this is open to abuse. Especially since the code to automatically generate all the requires/provides information never happenned. For further enhancements, it might be nice if there was a "suggested" field to indicate something helps a package but is not necessary (such as w3 or mailcrypt for gnus). --pete

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fume and latex mode (doesn't work) 25 years, 10 months

Didier Verna

Did somebody have a look at this ? I can't remember. I still doesn't work in b46. --didier

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Re: package-get-base props 25 years, 10 months

Oliver Graf

Oliver Graf <ograf(a)rhein-zeitung.de> writes: > What does "dump t" mean? The package needs to be in package path at dump time, > later install does not work? > > It seems only some low-level packages (sun tooltalk etc.) but also some > high-level (vc vc-cc vm) set the dump prop to t. > > How should a vm package be handled (cause it needs xemacs to be redumped)? And another question: It seems that new versions of package-get-base refer to package names in the requires property. I think the old ones refered to the provides of the packages... How *should* it be (how should I build the deps)? I need this to translate the provides/requires to readable rpm requires (readable means: the requires list the name of the package, so the user can find the required stuff easy). Regards, Oliver.

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Re: Two small nits 25 years, 10 months

Greg Klanderman

BAW> provided better contrast to the default font background. This appears BAW> easy enough to change with Custom (although the 3D effect doesn't seem BAW> to be configurable, or track my change to the background). The shadow should track the modeline background if you hit C-l. It's a bug I'd fix if I knew how to tell if the modeline face has changed. Don't know about your other questions... I haven't had to change my geometry and I still get the same size frame. But then I turn off toolbars from X resources and I believe what you're seeing might be due to changes to toolbar redisplay that Kirill (?) did. The default modeline colors have been debated heatedly, I'm not sure what the current resolution is, I set the colors from X resources. greg

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Re: XEmacs 21.0b46, Packages 25 years, 10 months

Raymond Toy

sperber(a)Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) writes: > >>>>> "Ray" == Raymond Toy <toy(a)rtp.ericsson.se> writes: > > Ray> Yes, this has been my biggest problem in fully enjoying the > Ray> package experience. I have not yet been able to get EFS to work > Ray> through our firewall, even though kerberos (itelnet, iftp) is > Ray> working correctly. I followed all of the directions, but EFS via > Ray> kerberos refuses to work. (Solaris 2.5.1) > > Could you file an EFS bug report on this (M-x efs-report-bug)? I > can't find any complaint in my EFS mailing list archives. Sure. I haven't yet because I was still testing things out, but I'm pretty sure that I've done everything correctly. Ray

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