June 1998 - XEmacs-Beta - XEmacs Mailing List Archives

A.J. Rossini

Found part of the culprit, but can't figure out the solution. in 'fume-rescan-buffer', working modes don't flag the error caught by the condition-case, i.e. (setq fnam (condition-case () (funcall find buffer-to-scan) (error ; reached every time with LaTeX's find routine, ; not reached with C, or Makefile, etc... (the comments were added by me). So there is something in fume-find-next-latex-section-name which is throwing the error. It might be occurring in the code after the initial let* statement (which extracts the correct function name), but I don't have time (until tommorow) to figure out where the rest of the bug is, or what the solution will be. And, it might not (be occurring then). Sigh... best, -tony

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Re: ANNOUNCE: I am speaking about XEmacs, July 1 27 years

Remek Trzaska

>>>>> "Didier" == Didier Verna <verna(a)inf.enst.fr> writes: Didier> Ben Wing <ben(a)666.com> writes: >> I am giving a talk about XEmacs at the Silicon Valley Linux Users' Group >> on Wednesday July 1 at 7pm. This speech will be 30 minutes or so in >> length, with a 10 minute question and answer period. Didier> Cool! Didier> Is there a chance that it could be multicasted ? http://www.svlug.org/meetings.shtml sez: The meeting will be electronically televised via the Internet Multicast Backbone (MBONE). It can be viewed at multicast-capable sites on the Internet. Remek

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anyone understand ediff crockishness? 27 years

Andy Piper

I'm trying to fix problems with ediff under mswindows and coming across some bizarre code: in ediff-wind.el we have: (set-specifier top-toolbar-height (list ctl-frame 2)) (sit-for 0) (set-specifier top-toolbar-height (list ctl-frame 0)) Which used to break under mswindows since you can't display anything in a toolbar 2 pixels high. Can someone explain what this code is trying to do? Next we have: ;; synchronize so the cursor will move to control frame ;; per RMS suggestion (if (ediff-window-display-p) (let ((count 7)) (sit-for .1) (while (and (not (frame-visible-p ctl-frame)) (> count 0)) (setq count (1- count)) (sit-for .3)))) Now I can't even byte compile this because of the .3 and .1 - I get errors about invalid read syntax. Similarly if I try and debug it. And if I try and run it I get wrong type argument - numberp, 0\.0:876386483 Commenting this code out makes things work much better but what is it trying to do? Should (sit-for .1) work? andy --------------------------------------------------------------------------- " .sigs are like your face - rarely seen by you and uglier than you think" Dr Andy Piper, Technical Architect, Parallax Solutions Ltd mail: andyp(a)parallax.co.uk web: www.parallax.co.uk/~andyp

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Two small nits 27 years

Barry A. Warsaw

I noticed two changes to UI defaults in XEmacs 21.0. I'd like to know if these are intentional changes or bugs, so I can update my Xdefaults and Custom stuff accordingly. The geometry on the initial frame is handled differently. I have the following setting in my Xrdb database: Emacs.geometry: 80x75-1+0 Note that I have all toolbars and menus turned off, and with 20.4, this setting gives me an initial frame of 80x77 that just perfectly fits on the screen vertically. With 21.0, the frame is two rows too tall, so I have to change that geometry setting to 80x73 to end up with an 80x77 frame. Second, the background color on the modeline has changed to be the same as the default face's background. Previously the default background color on the modeline was a light shade of gray, which provided better contrast to the default font background. This appears easy enough to change with Custom (although the 3D effect doesn't seem to be configurable, or track my change to the background). Also, the foreground used to be Black. If these changes are intentional, I'll just go ahead and update my settings (conditionalizing on the XEmacs version makes things interesting though). Thanks, -Barry

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xemacs-devel package 1.12 contains stealth features/files 27 years

Adrian Aichner

Hello Steven, hello All, while trying to help out somebody who wants to benchmark XEmacs, I realized there is no way to find 'bench with: (require 'package-get-base) (require 'package-get) (package-get-package-provider 'bench) nil Digging just a little deeper reveals the following: cd /export/home/tmp/packages-21.0/lisp/xemacs-devel/ egrep -ni '\(provide[ ]|^;; Copyright' *.el /dev/null Compilation started at Thu Jun 25 10:36:43 1998 auto-autoloads.el:314:(provide 'xemacs-devel-autoloads) bench.el:3:;; Copyright (C) 1987,88,89,90,93,94,95,96 Free Software Foundation, Inc. docref.el:3:;; Copyright (C) 1994 Free Software Foundation, Inc. docref.el:285:(provide 'docref) eldoc.el:3:;; Copyright (C) 1996, 1997 Free Software Foundation, Inc. eldoc.el:608:(provide 'eldoc) elp.el:3:;; Copyright (C) 1994 Free Software Foundation, Inc. elp.el:607:(provide 'elp) find-func.el:3:;; Copyright (C) 1997 Free Software Foundation, Inc. find-func.el:384:(provide 'find-func) find-gc.el:3:;; Copyright (C) 1992 Free Software Foundation, Inc. hide-copyleft.el:3:;; Copyright (C) 1997 Sun Microsystems. hide-copyleft.el:167:(provide 'hide-copyleft) ielm.el:3:;; Copyright (C) 1994 Free Software Foundation, Inc. ielm.el:489:(provide 'ielm) pretty-print.el:3:;; Copyright (C) 1992,1993 Guido Bosch <Guido.Bosch(a)loria.fr> pretty-print.el:569:(provide 'pp) profile.el:3:;; Copyright (C) 1996 Ben Wing, (C) 1997 Free Software Foundation. regexp-opt.el:3:;; Copyright (C) 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997 Free Software Foundation, Inc. regexp-opt.el:267:(provide 'regexp-opt) reposition.el:3:;; Copyright (C) 1991, 1994 Free Software Foundation, Inc. trace.el:3:;; Copyright (C) 1993 Free Software Foundation, Inc. trace.el:317:(provide 'trace) grep finished (24 matches found) at Thu Jun 25 10:36:43 At least the following files don't provide themselves: bench.el find-gc.el profile.el reposition.el I have decided not to send patches since I am not sure every of these should (provide ...) itself. bench.el however should surely (provide ...) itself. Please advise. Adrian -- Adrian Aichner Applications Engineer Teradyne GmbH Semiconductor Test Group Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com

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Re: EFS 1.16 bug: FAILS to work with XEmacs-21.0-b46 on Windows NT 27 years

Michael Sperber

>>>>> "Colin" == Colin Rafferty <craffert(a)ms.com> writes: Colin> Adrian Aichner writes: >> Gruss bug team: >> Please honor value of `directory-sep-char' instead of using hard-coded >> "/" throughout the EFS package. Colin> By the way, `expand-file-name' is the best way to create file names. Colin> This way, there is no concatenation needed. This is not so easy with EFS---it contains essentially a replacement of expand-file-name, and at least that needs native access to the directory separator character. -- Cheers =8-} Chipsy Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla

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Re: ANNOUNCE: I am speaking about XEmacs, July 1 27 years

SL Baur

I'm going to be visting the Bay Area to hear Ben speak. Another XEmacs get together anyone? Ben Wing <ben(a)666.com> writes: > I am giving a talk about XEmacs at the Silicon Valley Linux Users' Group > on Wednesday July 1 at 7pm.

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Re: ANNOUNCE: I am speaking about XEmacs, July 1 27 years

Didier Verna

Ben Wing <ben(a)666.com> writes: > I am giving a talk about XEmacs at the Silicon Valley Linux Users' Group > on Wednesday July 1 at 7pm. This speech will be 30 minutes or so in > length, with a 10 minute question and answer period. Cool! Is there a chance that it could be multicasted ? --didier

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Re: ANNOUNCE: I am speaking about XEmacs, July 1 27 years

P. E. Jareth Hein

Ben Wing <ben(a)666.com> writes: > I am giving a talk about XEmacs at the Silicon Valley Linux Users' Group > on Wednesday July 1 at 7pm. This speech will be 30 minutes or so in > length, with a 10 minute question and answer period. Mitch Wyle will > also be speaking at the same meeting on vim, which is a version of vi. It'd be interesting if there'd be a way to get a recording or a transcript of both of yours and Mitch's presentations... <hint hint> -- Jareth Hein | jareth(a)camelot.co.jp | ハインジェラス Toolsmith & Program lead | http://www.camelot.co.jp | 開発部チーフ Camelot Software, Ltd. | |（株）キャメロット "It's a sad sign of the times when 'political machine' is redefined to include 'main-line battle tank'" - Ambassador Grossblunder

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ANNOUNCE: I am speaking about XEmacs, July 1 27 years

Ben Wing

I am giving a talk about XEmacs at the Silicon Valley Linux Users' Group on Wednesday July 1 at 7pm. This speech will be 30 minutes or so in length, with a 10 minute question and answer period. Mitch Wyle will also be speaking at the same meeting on vim, which is a version of vi. I will be addressing such topics as: -What is XEmacs, what is its relation to GNU Emacs, the Free Software Foundation, X Windows, Lucid Emacs, etc.? -How does one get more information about XEmacs? -How does XEmacs compare to vi, to IDE editors and to GNU Emacs? -What does XEmacs look like under the hood? -What is Lisp and why is it used as an extension language? -What is the history of XEmacs? -Why is there a split between XEmacs and GNU Emacs? -What attempts have been made to merge the two editors? -How does the XEmacs development process work? -What are the new features in the soon-to-be-released version 21 and in the following releases? The meeting will last until around 9pm and is located at the Gateway Conference Center, Building J, Cisco Systems. The address is 255 West Tasman Drive, San Jose, CA 95134. For detailed directions see the Silicon Valley Linux Users' Group home page at: http://www.svlug.org -- Ben Wing - If this message is long and typed, someone else typed it for me - If it has a .rm (RealAudio) attachment, see http://www.real.com/products/player/downloadrealplayer.html?wp=dl0498 - If this doesn't work and there's a GSM WAV attachment, see http://xanim.va.pubnix.com/home.html

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