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Re: New release of toolbar-fancy package 25 years, 6 months

Adrian Aichner

>>>>> "Jan" == Jan Vroonhof <vroonhof(a)math.ethz.ch> writes: Jan> Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: Jan> :file Jan> "c:\\PROGRA~1\\XEMACS\\xemacs-packages\\etc\\toolbar-fancy\\color-mail-up.x Jan> pm" ...]) Jan> This seems OK. >> The initial frame has the standard icons. Only new frames I >> open have the fancy toolbar. Jan> Maybe there is a problem with specifiers and/or the Windows Jan> redisplay code. Jan> Does (specifier-instance current-toolbar) look OK? I don't have the fancy toolbar with me at the moment. I'll report later. Jan> Maybe the windows code does not notice that the toolbar has Jan> changed? Does code that changes the toolbar like gnus, info Jan> etc work for you when not operning a new frame. Yes it works fine. Jan> Jan -- Adrian Aichner European Design Center Teradyne GmbH Semiconductor Test Group Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail adrian.aichner(a)teradyne.com

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X-Symbol as an XEmacs package 25 years, 6 months

Christoph Wedler

Hi, some people probably know my X-Symbol package (semi WYSIWYG for LaTeX, HTML, etc), http://www.fmi.uni-passau.de/~wedler/x-symbol/ I now started to make it a proper XEmacs package. I would appreciate if you could test my first attempt (obviously the second ;-) http://www.fmi.uni-passau.de/~wedler/x-symbol/x-symbol-0.02-pkg.tar.gz http://www.fmi.uni-passau.de/~wedler/x-symbol/x-symbol-0.02-src.tar.gz It uses the XEmacs.rules, modified by Jan Vroonhof for his toolbar-fancy. Thanks to Jan for all his explanations about XEmacs packages. I would appreciate to get comments concerning (1) The directory structure: * X-Symbol uses additional fonts: bin: etc/x-symbol/{fonts,origfonts,pcf}, src: x-symbol/{fonts,origfonts,pcf} * X-Symbol creates executables from its lisp code and variables via flex & cc. The proposed directory for these executables is etc/x-symbol/bin/SYSTEM-CONFIGURATION/ Is this consistent with XEmacs' standards? (2) My makeinfo-1.68 adds spurious spaces when called with option `-o' and a file name other than the original one. If this is specific here on my system, I should probably change the Makefile... (3) Package X-Symbol has two special lisp files: one is only used (and compilable) when used with XEmacs/Mule, the other only with XEmacs/no-Mule. How should I built the binary package? Currently, x-symbol-mule.el (or x-symbol-nomule.el) belongs to EXTRA_SOURCES. Or should I make x-symbol-nomule.el compilabe (but not runnable) under XEmacs/Mule and create the binary package with XEmacs/Mule? (4) You probably know that cus-dep.el is buggy (when defining an own custom-set function). I'd rather avoid special work-arounds like Jan did in his toolbar-fancy... Any suggestion is welcome! - Christoph

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Re: Meta-c 25 years, 6 months

Adrian Aichner

The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to comp.emacs.xemacs as well. >>>>> "Devon" == Devon Sean McCullough <devon(a)iac.net> writes: Devon> In XEmacs 20.4 "Emerald" [Lucid] (i686-pc-linux) of Wed Jul Devon> 1 1998 on proton Please describe exactly what actions Devon> triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug: Devon> I typed Meta-Minus Meta-C in the minibuffer prompt for Devon> string-rectangle expecting to capitalize the previous word Devon> I had typed. Hello Devon, the problem exists in (emacs-version) "XEmacs 21.0 \"Pyrenean-pre6\" [Lucid] (i386-pc-win32) of Wed Nov 11 1998 on DARTER2" as well. Adrian Devon> Signaling: (error "There is no region now") Devon> region-beginning() capitalize-region-or-word(-1) Devon> call-interactively(capitalize-region-or-word) Devon> read-minibuffer-internal("String rectangle: ") byte-code("À Devon> Á V«ÂÅ!*Å!" [recursion-depth minibuffer-depth t Devon> standard-input standard-output read-minibuffer-internal Devon> prompt] 2) read-from-minibuffer("String rectangle: " nil Devon> #<keymap minibuffer-local-map 14 entries 0x4d3> nil nil) Devon> read-string("String rectangle: ") Devon> call-interactively(string-rectangle) Devon> Recent keystrokes: Devon> escape y escape - escape y escape - escape y escape - Devon> escape y escape - escape y escape - escape y escape - Devon> escape y escape - escape y escape - escape y escape - Devon> escape y escape - escape y escape - escape y escape - Devon> escape y C-x C-x escape - C-x tab escape f escape f escape Devon> b C-c space escape 2 escape f C-n C-x r k C-x C-x C-x r t l Devon> o g i n escape - escape c - Devon> Recent minibuffer messages (most recent first): Devon> Buffer is read-only: #<buffer "*Backtrace*"> Entering Devon> debugger... Loading rect...done Loading rect... Quit Quit Devon> Quit: isearch Wrote /home/devon/perl/radius.pl Making Devon> completion list... Making completion list... Entering Devon> debugger... Quit Scan for pods, formats and here-docs Devon> completed. Scanning for pods, formats and here-docs... Devon> Loading cperl-mode...done Loading cperl-mode... Reading Devon> directory /home/devon/perl/...done Reading directory Devon> /home/devon/perl/... Reading directory Devon> /home/devon/perl/...done Reading directory Devon> /home/devon/perl/... Buffer has 1245 lines, 8948 Devon> characters Quit Wrote /home/devon/Accounts-1998-jOct Devon> Replaced 0 occurrences Entering debugger... Loading Devon> sort...done Loading sort... Making completion list... Devon> Quit Buffer has 1218 lines, 8770 characters Reading Devon> directory Devon> /home/devon/IAC-1998-kNov-19-Thu/etc/raddb/...done Reading Devon> directory /home/devon/IAC-1998-kNov-19-Thu/etc/raddb/... Devon> Quit Buffer has 32 lines, 217 characters space = page Devon> forward; b = page back; h = help; q = quit. Loading Devon> view-less...done Loading view-less... Buffer has 1218 Devon> lines, 8770 characters Wrote Devon> /home/devon/IAC-1998-kNov-19-Thu/var/remaining Replaced 32 Devon> occurrences Quit Making completion list... Entering Devon> debugger... Keyboard macro defined Defining kbd macro... Devon> Quit Wrote /home/devon/IAC-1998-kNov-19-Thu/var/initial Devon> Quit (New file) Reading directory Devon> /home/devon/IAC-1998-kNov-19-Thu/var/...done Reading Devon> directory /home/devon/IAC-1998-kNov-19-Thu/var/... Loading Devon> vc-hooks...done Loading vc-hooks... Reading directory Devon> /home/devon/IAC-1998-kNov-19-Thu/etc/...done Reading Devon> directory /home/devon/IAC-1998-kNov-19-Thu/etc/... Reading Devon> directory /home/devon/IAC-1998-kNov-19-Thu/...done Reading Devon> directory /home/devon/IAC-1998-kNov-19-Thu/... Reading Devon> directory /home/devon/...done Reading directory Devon> /home/devon/... Loading dired...done Loading dired... Devon> ..loaded ~devon/.emacs Loading time...done Loading Devon> cus-face...done Loading cus-face... Loading time... Error Devon> (file-error Cannot open load file Devon> /home/devon/emacs/ange-ftp) while loading patch file Devon> /home/devon/emacs/ange-ftp Error (file-error Cannot open Devon> load file /home/devon/emacs/uncompress) while loading patch Devon> file /home/devon/emacs/uncompress Error (file-error Cannot Devon> open load file /home/devon/emacs/tags) while loading patch Devon> file /home/devon/emacs/tags Error (file-error Cannot open Devon> load file /home/devon/emacs/shell) while loading patch file Devon> /home/devon/emacs/shell Error (file-error Cannot open load Devon> file /home/devon/emacs/rmail) while loading patch file Devon> /home/devon/emacs/rmail Error (file-error Cannot open load Devon> file /home/devon/emacs/mouse) while loading patch file Devon> /home/devon/emacs/mouse Error (file-error Cannot open load Devon> file /home/devon/emacs/man) while loading patch file Devon> /home/devon/emacs/man Error (file-error Cannot open load Devon> file /home/devon/emacs/isearch) while loading patch file Devon> /home/devon/emacs/isearch Error (file-error Cannot open Devon> load file /home/devon/emacs/help) while loading patch file Devon> /home/devon/emacs/help Error (file-error Cannot open load Devon> file /home/devon/emacs/files) while loading patch file Devon> /home/devon/emacs/files Error (file-error Cannot open load Devon> file /home/devon/emacs/compile) while loading patch file Devon> /home/devon/emacs/compile Error (file-error Cannot open Devon> load file /home/devon/emacs/compare-w) while loading patch Devon> file /home/devon/emacs/compare-w Error (file-error Cannot Devon> open load file /home/devon/emacs/comment) while loading Devon> patch file /home/devon/emacs/comment Devon> Recent input: escape - escape y escape - escape y escape - Devon> escape y escape - escape y C-x C-x escape - C-x tab escape Devon> f escape f escape b C-c space escape 2 escape f C-n C-x r k Devon> C-x C-x C-x r t l o g i n escape - escape c - C-p C-p C-p Devon> C-u C-u C-u C-k C-x h escape w C-h l C-o C-y C-x h escape w Devon> C-x o escape x b u g space escape delete delete r e p r Devon> delete o r t tab return M e t a - C return Devon> Recent messages: Loading rect... Loading rect...done Devon> Entering debugger... Buffer is read-only: #<buffer Devon> "*Backtrace*"> Buffer is read-only: #<buffer "*Help*"> Devon> Buffer is read-only: #<buffer "*Help*"> Loading emacsbug... Devon> Loading emacsbug...done Loading mail-abbrevs... Loading Devon> mail-abbrevs...done -- Adrian Aichner European Design Center Teradyne GmbH Semiconductor Test Group Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail adrian.aichner(a)teradyne.com

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Re: New release of toolbar-fancy package 25 years, 6 months

Jan Vroonhof

Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: :file "c:\\PROGRA~1\\XEMACS\\xemacs-packages\\etc\\toolbar-fancy\\color-mail-up.xpm" ...]) This seems OK. > The initial frame has the standard icons. Only new frames I open have > the fancy toolbar. Maybe there is a problem with specifiers and/or the Windows redisplay code. Does (specifier-instance current-toolbar) look OK? Maybe the windows code does not notice that the toolbar has changed? Does code that changes the toolbar like gnus, info etc work for you when not operning a new frame. Jan

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Re: FSF Emacs 20.1 syntax parsing engine? 25 years, 6 months

Hrvoje Niksic

Kyle Jones <kyle_jones(a)wonderworks.com> writes: > It depends on the level where the changes were implemented. The low > level support is pretty different. Why is it so, except for Mule character stuff? Apart from the buffer-syntactic-context interface that we have, and which is separated from other syntax-related code, the interfaces are pretty similar. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- Latest O'Reilly edition: Database Management with POSTSCRIPT ("The Flying Fish Book")

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Re: FSF Emacs 20.1 syntax parsing engine? 25 years, 6 months

Jan Vroonhof

David C Worenklein <dcw(a)gcm.com> writes: > Supposedly RMS spruced up the syntax parsing engine. do you mean the patches by Ilya Zakharevich (author of cperl)? > Are we in the process of synching with it? Not that I know. Presumably it would be a good thing. I suggest talking to Ilya about it first if you want to so an XEmacs implementation. Hopefully that part of the code is not so different in the two. Jan

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Re: XEmacs 21.0 beta 57 sparcworks/tooltalk 25 years, 6 months

Charles G Waldman

You can pick up these packages from ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/packages Untar the .pkg.tar.gz files into /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages

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XEmacs 21.0 beta 57 sparcworks/tooltalk 25 years, 6 months

Dave Thompson

I'm sort of new to the XEmacs beta releases (just downloaded this one today). On Solaris 7, I had a problem with the lucid menubar under CDE, so I decided to try upgrading to this version. When I compiled it, I noticed that ToolTalk support and SparcWorks support lisp packages were not there (I did run the configure script correctly). I also noticed that the files that used to be in lisp/modes were also not present in the distribution. Has some major change happened, or is there a problem with the distribution that I don't know of? The exact error I got when I tried to run `make install` was: Error: This XEmacs is built with tooltalk support but does not have a tooltalk package installed. Without the tooltalk lisp package, Tooltalk support is broken. Error: This XEmacs is built with sparcworks support but does not have the Sun package installed. Without the Sun lisp package, Sparcworks support will be broken. Your help is appreciated. Thanks! -- Dave Thompson thompd(a)guppi.org

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Re: New release of toolbar-fancy package 25 years, 6 months

Adrian Aichner

>>>>> "Jan" == Jan Vroonhof <vroonhof(a)math.ethz.ch> writes: Jan> Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: >> (setq use-fancy-toolbar (quote color)) (require 'toolbar-fancy) Jan> What is the value of 'toolbar-mail-icon' in this case? I am Jan> not sure customize calls the right init function when you set Jan> the variable like this. In this case, the value is: `toolbar-mail-icon' (buffer: *scratch*, mode: Lisp Interaction) Variable: value: see below A `mail' icon set. value: (#<glyph (buffer) #<image-specifier global= ((mswindows) . [xpm :color-symbols (("foregroundToolBarColor" . #<color-specifier global=<unspecified> fallback=#<color-specifier global=<unspecified> fallback=(((mswindows) . "black")) 0x1a6> 0x1d4>) ("backgroundToolBarColor" . #<color-specifier global=<unspecified> fallback=#<color-specifier global=<unspecified> fallback=(((mswindows) . "Gray75")) 0x1a8> 0x1d6>) ("background" . #<color-specifier global="gray80" fallback=(((mswindows) . "white")) 0x191>) ("foreground" . #<color-specifier global=<unspecified> fallback=(((mswindows) . "black")) 0x18f>)) :file "c:\\PROGRA~1\\XEMACS\\xemacs-packages\\etc\\toolbar-fancy\\color-mail-up.xpm" ...]) fallback= ((nil . [nothing])) 0x1984>0x1983> nil #<glyph (buffer) #<image-specifier global=<unspecified> fallback= ((nil . [nothing])) 0x198b>0x198a> #<glyph (buffer) #<image-specifier global= ((mswindows) . [xpm :color-symbols (("foregroundToolBarColor" . #<color-specifier global=<unspecified> fallback=#<color-specifier global=<unspecified> fallback=(((mswindows) . "black")) 0x1a6> 0x1d4>) ("backgroundToolBarColor" . #<color-specifier global=<unspecified> fallback=#<color-specifier global=<unspecified> fallback=(((mswindows) . "Gray75")) 0x1a8> 0x1d6>) ("background" . #<color-specifier global="gray80" fallback=(((mswindows) . "white")) 0x191>) ("foreground" . #<color-specifier global=<unspecified> fallback=(((mswindows) . "black")) 0x18f>)) :file "c:\\PROGRA~1\\XEMACS\\xemacs-packages\\etc\\toolbar-fancy\\color-mail-cap-up.xpm" ...]) fallback= ((nil . [nothing])) 0x1992>0x1991> nil #<glyph (buffer) #<image-specifier global=<unspecified> fallback= ((nil . [nothing])) 0x1999>0x1998>) Jan> If you use just (require 'toolbar-fancy) and then M-x Jan> customize-variable RET use-fancy-toolbar RET Select color and Jan> Set Jan> What happens? The initial frame has the standard icons. Only new frames I open have the fancy toolbar. >> (emacs-version) "XEmacs 21.0 \"Pyrenean-pre6\" [Lucid] >> (i386-pc-win32) Jan> What is the color depth of your display? I am on window-system mswindows on system-configuration "i386-pc-win32". I use a Color Palette of 65536 colors and a desktop area of 1024x768. >> click on <> next and press Save one of two things happen: >> >> Either XEmacs crashes Or nothing happens. Jan> Here at work under the Solaris X server using just 256 colors Jan> X emacs is very unhappy with the Next icons. Note that the Jan> Next icons use 254 colors (at least that is what the author Jan> claims)). Both 'color and 'next displays fine for me, except for the initial frame, which comes up with the default toolbar. Jan> At home on a 16bit Xfree86 server there is no problem. Jan> Jan Adrian -- Adrian Aichner European Design Center Teradyne GmbH Semiconductor Test Group Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 (What is a Fax?) D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail adrian.aichner(a)teradyne.com

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Re: New release of toolbar-fancy package 25 years, 6 months

Jan Vroonhof

Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: > (setq use-fancy-toolbar (quote color)) > (require 'toolbar-fancy) What is the value of 'toolbar-mail-icon' in this case? I am not sure customize calls the right init function when you set the variable like this. If you use just (require 'toolbar-fancy) and then M-x customize-variable RET use-fancy-toolbar RET Select color and Set What happens? > (emacs-version) "XEmacs 21.0 \"Pyrenean-pre6\" [Lucid] > (i386-pc-win32) What is the color depth of your display? > click on > <> next > and press Save > one of two things happen: > > Either XEmacs crashes > Or nothing happens. Here at work under the Solaris X server using just 256 colors X emacs is very unhappy with the Next icons. Note that the Next icons use 254 colors (at least that is what the author claims)). At home on a 16bit Xfree86 server there is no problem. Jan

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