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Re: XEmacs 21.0-pre15-pre4/21.2-beta3-pre2 25 years, 12 months

Holger Schauer

>>>>"JM" == Jeff Miller schrieb am Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:54:37 -0400 (EDT): [emacs-beta-version="" in pre-releases] JM> Perhaps another variable could be added to version.sh which is JM> always the patch release (for lack of a better term). There is xemacs_codename="Pyrenean-pre4", but patch-xemacs.sh (haven't checked the latest version, obviously) doesn't recognize it. Note that the expected patch-version also would need to be computed in a different way from now. Currently patch-xemacs.sh returns with Can't read ../xemacs-21.0-b57-21.0-b58.patch.gz True,since the patch is named xemacs-21.0-pre14-21.0-pre15-pre4.patch. Holger -- --- http://www.coling.uni-freiburg.de/~schauer/ --- "Keine Shell, kein Prompt, keine Kekse." -- Jochen Hein in de.comp.os.linux.misc

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Re: Proposed version number change for 21.2 25 years, 12 months

Didier Verna

SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: > I'm very frustrated with how things are being numbered. As a matter > of fact, I think the release currently being planned on being numbered > 21.1 (a bug fix release for the elusive 21.0) would be better numbered > 21.0.XX where XX is greater than the beta number we finally release at. I agree that using 21.1 for 21.0 bugfixes is not very good, but not with the fact that XX should be greater than the last beta. To me XX should be something like a patch level starting from zero. - We release 21.0 - The first 21.0 update is named 21.0.1 and so on. I think this is the most obvious scheme for users. Now a question for you Steve: do we really need the concept of pre-release ? Why pre-releases couldn't just be beta versions ? Correct me if I'm wrong but pre-releases only differ from beta versions in that they are announced. So we could just continue naming them like betas, and have a variable like xemacs-pre-release-number with the number of the first beta version considered as a pre-release. This way, the numbering scheme would be: - 21.0-b58 xemacs-pre-release-number: void - 21.0-b59 xemacs-pre-release-number: void - ... - 21.0-b65 (otherwise named -pre1) xemacs-pre-release-number: 65 - 21.0-b66 (otherwise named -pre2) xemacs-pre-release-number: 65 - ... - 21.0 (first real release) xemacs-pre-release-number: 65 - 21.0.1 (first patch-update) xemacs-pre-release-number: 65 - ... And during this time, we start working on 21.1 which is now named 21.2 -- / / _ _ Didier Verna http://www.inf.enst.fr/~verna/ - / / - / / /_/ / E.N.S.T. INF C201.1 mailto:verna＠inf.enst.fr /_/ / /_/ / /__ / 46 rue Barrault Tel. (33) 01 45 81 73 46 75634 Paris cedex 13 Fax. (33) 01 45 81 31 19

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Re: please add package: greedy-delete 25 years, 12 months

SL Baur

Greg Klanderman <greg(a)alphatech.com> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: > Steve, > Could you add greedy-delete, maybe to edit-utils? > Get it from > <http://www.python.org/~bwarsaw/betas/greedy-delete.el> It's labeled "beta". Barry?

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Re: Proposed version number change for 21.2 25 years, 12 months

Pete Ware

SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: > Pete Ware <ware(a)cis.ohio-state.edu> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: > > > Use dates -- it even tells people how old their version is. Tack on a > > "beta" to warn people off. > > Dates don't conveniently go into scripts. How would you determine a > priori which was the previous version? This is needed for generating > patch kits. Umm, look for it? Save it in a file? 1998286 no 1998285 no ... 1998001 no 1997366 (day doesn't exist) 1997365 presto! Actually, the real problem is how do you indicate a future release (aka 21.2). --pete

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Compiling 21.0-b57 on IRIX 6.2 25 years, 12 months

Albert Chin-A-Young

I compiled with the following: ./configure --prefix=/app/abt/nosw/xemacs-21.0/mips-sgi-irix6.2n32 \ --compiler=cc --cflags='-n32' --ldflags='-n32' --dynamic=yes \ --with-tooltalk=no \ --infopath="/usr/info:/app/abt/sw/info:/app/abt/nosw/info" \ --infodir=/app/abt/nosw/xemacs-21.0/mips-sgi-irix6.2n32/info \ --site-includes=/app/abt/nosw/include \ --site-libraries=/app/abt/nosw/lib \ --site-runtime-libraries=/app/abt/nosw/lib Final output of configure is: XEmacs 21.0 "Poitou" configured for `mips-sgi-irix6.2'. Where should the build process find the source code? /rcis/fsoft/misc/xemacs-21.0-b57 What installation prefix should install use? /app/abt/nosw/xemacs-21.0/mips-sgi-irix6.2n32 What operating system and machine description files should XEmacs use? `s/irix6-0.h' and `m/iris4d.h' What compiler should XEmacs be built with? cc -n32 Should XEmacs use the GNU version of malloc? yes Should XEmacs use the relocating allocator for buffers? yes What window system should XEmacs use? x11 Where do we find X Windows header files? Where do we find X Windows libraries? Additional header files: /app/abt/nosw/include Additional libraries: /app/abt/nosw/lib Runtime library search path: /app/abt/nosw/lib Compiling in support for XAUTH. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG image handling. Compiling in support for (builtin) GIF image handling. Compiling in support for JPEG image handling. Compiling in support for TIFF image handling. Compiling in support for Berkeley DB. Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Compiling in support for proper session-management. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. Compiling in DLL support. movemail will use "dot-locking" for locking mail spool files. This compiles OK but when I run the executable as 'src/xemacs' from the build directory and select File->Open, I get the error "Symbol's function definition is void: xpm-button-create". I have xpm 3.4k compiled for XEmacs to use. -- albert chin (china(a)pprd.abbott.com)

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Package build error in "Pyrenean-pre4" 25 years, 12 months

Paul Bibilo

I CVS updated everything, removed all my .elc's, and rebuilt everything with a non-mule XEmacs. I had problems building the following package files. Compiling /devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21/xemacs-packages/comm/mew/mew/mew-lang-jp.el... While compiling toplevel forms in file /devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21/xemacs-packages/comm/mew/mew/mew-lang-jp.el: !! Invalid read syntax (("#")) Done /devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21/i62-r4k/src/xemacs -batch -vanilla \ -eval "(insert-file-contents \"mew/info/mew.texi\")" \ -l ./hack-mew-jis.texi.el \ -l texinfmt -f texinfo-format-buffer \ -eval '(setq file-coding-system (quote iso-2022-7))' \ -eval '(save-buffer 0)' Formatting Info file... Formatting Info file: mew.jis.info Converting *scratch* to Info format... Removing trailing whitespace from Info buffer... Formatting: Mew $B%^%K%e%"%k ... ＠b$7$ is not handled by texinfo xemacs exiting. make[2]: *** [mew.jis.info] Error 255 make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp_mnt/devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21/xemacs-packages/comm/mew' make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp_mnt/devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21/xemacs-packages/prog/ediff' /devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21/i62-r4k/src/xemacs -no-autoloads -batch -l ../../package-compile.el -- pcl-cvs dired xemacs-base -- ediff-diff.el Loading /devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21/i62-r4k/lisp/auto-autoloads... Loading /devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21/xemacs-packages/libs/xemacs-base/auto-autoloads... Loading /devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21/xemacs-packages/libs/dired/auto-autoloads... Loading /devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21/xemacs-packages/prog/pcl-cvs/auto-autoloads... Compiling /devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21/xemacs-packages/prog/ediff/ediff-diff.el... Ignoring `eval:' in file's local variables Ignoring `eval:' in file's local variables Ignoring `eval:' in file's local variables Loading ediff-init.el... Loading ediff-util.el... Loading ediff-help.el... Loading ediff-mult.el... Loading ediff-wind.el... Loading ediff-tbar.el... Loading ediff-diff.el... Loading ediff-merg.el... Loading ediff.el... Loading dired... Loading info... Loading pcl-cvs... While compiling toplevel forms in file /devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21/xemacs-packages/prog/ediff/ediff-diff.el: !! File error (("Cannot open load file" "cookie")) Done /devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21/i62-r4k/src/xemacs -no-autoloads -batch -l ../../package-compile.el -- pcl-cvs dired xemacs-base -- ediff-merg.el Loading /devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21/i62-r4k/lisp/auto-autoloads... Loading /devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21/xemacs-packages/libs/xemacs-base/auto-autoloads... 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Ignoring `eval:' in file's local variables Ignoring `eval:' in file's local variables Ignoring `eval:' in file's local variables Loading ediff-init.el... Loading ediff.el... Loading dired... Loading info... Loading pcl-cvs... While compiling toplevel forms in file /devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21/xemacs-packages/prog/ediff/ediff-ptch.el: !! File error (("Cannot open load file" "cookie")) Done /devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21/i62-r4k/src/xemacs -no-autoloads -batch -l ../../package-compile.el -- pcl-cvs dired xemacs-base -- ediff-tbar.el Loading /devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21/i62-r4k/lisp/auto-autoloads... Loading /devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21/xemacs-packages/libs/xemacs-base/auto-autoloads... Loading /devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21/xemacs-packages/libs/dired/auto-autoloads... Loading /devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21/xemacs-packages/prog/pcl-cvs/auto-autoloads... 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Ignoring `eval:' in file's local variables Ignoring `eval:' in file's local variables Ignoring `eval:' in file's local variables Loading dired... Loading info... Loading pcl-cvs... While compiling toplevel forms in file /devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21/xemacs-packages/prog/ediff/ediff.el: !! File error (("Cannot open load file" "cookie")) Done make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp_mnt/devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21/xemacs-packages/prog/ediff' I expect the mew problem is becuase I don't have a mule-aware xemacs, but I thought we were supposed to be able to build this stuff anyway now, or at least not have it try if it can't. I'm not sure about the second problem though. If I do a (load "cookie") in a running xemacs it comes back t, but is having problems building the ediff package. Ideas ? -- Paul

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Re: Proposed version number change for 21.2 25 years, 12 months

Jari Aalto

| 1998-10-13 Holger Schauer <schauer(a)coling.uni-freiburg.de> list.xemacs | >>>>"sb" == SL Baur schrieb am 10 Oct 1998 00:14:28 -0700: | | sb> Dang it! We don't want people writing version number tests! | sb> They should be writing feature tests. | | (defun running-emacs-version-or-newer (major minor) | (or (> emacs-major-version major) | (and (= emacs-major-version major) | (>= emacs-minor-version minor)))) | | feature-tests are IMHO not enough. There are some people who need to | support different emacs-versions using different packages (and | different versions, of course). So, there will be people who will need | to support such version number tests, but hey, I guess, that they will | be able to write three-digits-version tests anyway (however, they will | be annoyed to death if they have to. I can't think of an instance | where one would be forced to do). I just checked my code and suprised: I haven only 1% need to check the explicit X/Emacs version number to support NT/Emacs 19.28 - 20.x and XEmacs 19.14 - 21.x. What was extremeny used was the MULE/NON-MULE Emacs tests that I have separated with double "pp" tests. There were so radical changes between 19 and 20 trunks. Interestingly change from XEmacs 20 to 21 didn't need any additional compatibility tests (the documentation for xemacs-pp function is bit out of date in regad to Xemacs 21.) In case anyone would think including these function into XEmacs would be useful; here are my Emacs tests. jari (eval-and-compile ;; cl.el version 3.0 does not define macro `return' cl 2.02(19.34) is ok. ;; This was noticed by Sami Khoury <skhoury(a)cse.dnd.ca> (require 'cl) (require 'backquote) (unless (fboundp 'return) (error "\ ** tinylibb.el: You 'cl package is dysfunctional. Get some other version")) ;; ..................................................... &presettings ... ;; We have to put these functions inside here, because ;; we later use construct ;; ;; (eval-and-compile ;; (when (xemacs-p) ;; (autoload .... ;; ;; And that doesn't succeed, because Compiler doesn't yet know ;; that xemacs-p exists inside eval-and-compile. By putting the ;; definitions here; the compiler is gurranteed to see them. (defsubst xemacs-p () "Check if running XEmacs. Return main revision as integer (eg. 19)." (if (or (boundp 'xemacs-logo) (featurep 'xemacs)) ;Appeared in 20.2+ emacs-major-version)) (defsubst xemacs-pp () "Check XEmacs 20.x Return minor version 20.x" (and (boundp 'xemacs-logo) (> emacs-major-version 19) emacs-minor-version)) (defsubst emacs-p () "Check if running Emacs." (if (not (boundp 'xemacs-logo)) emacs-major-version)) (defsubst emacs-pp () "Check if running Emacs 20.x and return minor version 20.x" (and (not (boundp 'xemacs-logo)) (> emacs-major-version 19) emacs-minor-version)) (defsubst emacs-version-number-as-string () "Emacs and XEmacs compatibility. Return plain version number string." (if (emacs-p) emacs-version ; "19.34" ;; XEmacs return "19.14 XEmacs Lucid", get only version (and (string-match "^\$[0-9]+\\.[0-9.]+\$" emacs-version) (substring emacs-version 0 (match-end 1)) ))) (defsubst win32-p () (cond ((fboundp 'console-type) (eq (let ((f 'console-type)) (funcall f)) ;Quiet Emacs byte compiler 'win32)) ((boundp 'window-system) (eq (symbol-value 'window-system) 'win32)) ((error "Internal alert, contact maintainer of TinyLib.")))) ;; Use defvar to silence byteCompiler (defvar byte-compile-dynamic nil "19.29 var") (make-local-variable 'byte-compile-dynamic) (setq byte-compile-dynamic t) ;19.29+ )

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Re: XEmacs 21.0-pre15-pre4/21.2-beta3-pre2 25 years, 12 months

Holger Schauer

>>>>"sb" == SL Baur schrieb am 13 Oct 1998 00:48:22 -0700: sb> I've committed new versions of XEmacs to both release trees. sb> There are patches for virgin XEmacs 21.0-pre14 in sb> ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/beta/testing/ Excuse my ignorance, please, but how is one supposed to apply these patches to a plain b57 ? A simple patch < xemacs-21.0.... didn't work since it wouldn't find the correct files to patch, patch-xemacs.sh insists on using a patch-file with a different version number ... (and worse, it won't run out-of-the box on a Solaris machine, since /bin/sh has no `source'-command). Holger -- --- http://www.coling.uni-freiburg.de/~schauer/ --- "Keine Shell, kein Prompt, keine Kekse." -- Jochen Hein in de.comp.os.linux.misc

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Re: Why using (push-mark) ? 26 years

Didier Verna

Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> writes: > Didier, do you propose that beginning/end-of-buffer not push the mark > only when the region is active, or all the time? If the former, I'm > with you. If the latter, I'm not -- when the region is unactive, the > mark-pushing behaviour is quite useful. The former obviously (the proposed piece of code was in this direction). The only thing that annoys me is that when I have explicitely set the mark, I don't think any functions should have the right to override what I said. --didier

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Re: Proposed version number change for 21.2 26 years

SL Baur

Eric Eide <eeide(a)cs.utah.edu> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: > "sb" == SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: sb> There wouldn't be a 21.2. That's part of the point. There would sb> be a 21.2.XX where XX is the number where we finally release. > This seems unnecessarily confusing from a user's perspective, unless > 21.2.XX is going to be publicly released for more than one value of > XX. Sounds good to me. Actually, this sounds like the best solution. I'll implement this starting for 21.2. > Additionally, I think there is a risk that users will think that the > software is a for-gurus-only version if the XX is anything other > than zero. That's not my perception. I thought common belief was to avoid anything with a last number of zero. The only other software product that does what we do is CVS[1] and it is annoying too. > Many people can't write the two-element version test correctly --- > and here you go adding a third element :-)! Dang it! We don't want people writing version number tests! They should be writing feature tests. > PS --- Does anybody remember the days when the third element was > incremented every time you build Emacs on your own system? Yup. It annoyed me to death. What I'm proposing isn't the same thing. Footnotes: [1] Both cvs-1.10 and cvs-1.10.2 are hopelessly buggier than cvs-1.9 from where I'm sitting.

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