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Re: In Search for better Descriptive Group Name on SourceForge 24 years, 1 month

Stephen J. Turnbull

>>>>> "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)arsdigita.com> writes: Hrvoje> [ Why is this discussion not on xemacs-beta? ] It is now. Recap: Adrian suggests fixing up our "Descriptive Group Name" on SourceForge, in particular, to XEmacs Multi-Platform Open Source Editor Ben Wing proposes an amendment: Ben> why not just be specific about what we support? XEmacs, an Open Source Editor for MS Windows and Unix Steve Youngs <youngs(a)xemacs.org> writes: >> Adrian, I like your change, but I think it's a little bashful. >> How about: >> XEmacs - The Multi-Platform Open Source Editor. >> See the subtle difference? Yeah. I bet RMS will too. Don't be so competitive. ;-) Hrvoje> How about: XEmacs - the Multi-Platform Open Source Editor and Environment My two cents: XEmacs - Open Source, Multi-platform, and _More_ Than Just an Editor I'm really tempted by "More than just another pretty Emacs", but I've already gotten enough grief about my .sig. ;-) The floor is open... -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ What are those straight lines for? "XEmacs rules."

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Re: order of ~/.xemacs/init.el and ~/.xemacs/custom.el 24 years, 1 month

Alexey Mahotkin

>>>>> "drv" == Didier Verna <didier(a)xemacs.org> writes: >> Suppose there is a (desktop-read) in init.el, and >> >> (custom-set-variables '(user-mail-address "morozov(a)novosoft.ru")), >> >> in custom.el. Now if desktop being read contains .html file then >> html-mode asks again and again: "Your mail address: alex＠localhost" or >> something like that, because it is not yet customized. >> >> Surely one can move (setq user-mail-address "") to init.el, before >> (desktop-read), but there must be a more generic way to address that >> issue, what do you think? drv> You can try to swap the order of custom / init files drv> reading. That's what I do at the top of my init file: Ok, the thread seems to be petered out, but the conclusion and some action probably has to be made. I have seen real reasons to swap the order and at the same time there were mostly no reasons to not to swap the order (and those that were are easily worked around). Am I right? Could we all hope that it'll be fixed by swapping the loading order in 21.4.next and 21.5? Stephen, please notify current Cc: list when you'll do that :) --alexm

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Re: Preprocessor 24 years, 1 month

Dan Colascione

On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 10:16:30PM +0200, Hrvoje Niksic wrote: > `.el' files are not compiled and loaded on the fly. You have to > compile them manually. I would like to see another "level" of this > compilation that turns `.elc' files into `.ell' (by way of .c), which > you can proceed to load as usual. That's what I meant, yes. That would be great. Can non-special DLLs (special ones are scr, cpl, etc.) have an extension other than .dll on win32, btw? -- "Understanding is a three-edged sword: Your side, their side, and the truth." --- Kosh

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Re: Preprocessor 24 years, 1 month

Dan Colascione

On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 10:03:26PM +0200, Hrvoje Niksic wrote: > Although this looks simple-minded, I believe it would be a *huge* > speed win over the current virtual machine. First, the cost of > interpretation would be removed, which is by itself a big win -- > the huge `case' statement would finally be eliminated. Secondly, such > "unwound" C code would be processed by the C optimizer which would > remove the many many redundant checks and thus make the code run > really fast. > > The advantage of this strategy is that it opts for huge speedup in a > *realistic* environment, i.e. it doesn't require rebuilding 100% of > XEmacs to work. Furthermore, it builds on the work already invested > in the byte-code compiler. I like this. I like it a lot. Just a question --- do you think it could be done in such a way that code could be loaded from shared libraries and, with a (supported) compiler, .el files could be compiled and loaded on the fly, just as .elc files are now? If so, it could provide a nice, fast (optional, as not everyone has a compiler) for .elc files themselves. -- "People are unlikely to become well- functioning, independent-minded adults and responsible citizens if they are raised in an intellectual bubble."

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(no subject) 24 years, 1 month

Hummel Family

I would like to make my student class list appear in kanji, so they can see what it would look like. How can I download a font to do this? Thanks

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RE: Help test EFS 24 years, 1 month

Jerker Haglund

> /ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/beta/experimental/packages/efs-1.25-pkg.tar.gz > > In order to turn this into an official package release, I urgently > need your help in testing it. I've tested EFS on a number of servers, I tried it with XEmacs 21.4.3 on Win2k (and NT), but I wasn't entirely successful. It did work better than the one included in 21.4.3, because that one locked up at once and didn't work at all for me. The new one could list a directory in dired With the new EFS I tried to upload a bunch of files by marking them in dired and pressing 'C'. No response and nothing copied. The end of the ftp buffer implied problems with back-slashes: delete /html/behag/#anmlan.htm# 250 DELE command successful. type image 200 Type set to I. put c:\myweb\behag\anmlan.htm /html/behag/anmlan.htm /usr/bin/ftp: local: c:mywebbehaganmlan.htm: No such file or directory Also, there seems to be a lot of trouble down in the process filter. Could be the same kind of thing, or it could be my settings. For example, copying a remote file to 'c:\myweb\tmp.tmp': (1) (error/warning) Error in process filter: (file-error Opening directory Resource temporarily unavailable c:\myweb\tmp.tmp) /J. Haglund

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Re: copy command in xemacs.mak 24 years, 1 month

Nickolay Pakoulin

intro: "AA" == Adrian Aichner <Adrian.Aichner(a)t-online.de> writes: Done, patch below. Nick. >>>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper <andyp(a)bea.com> writes: Andy> Reviewed and approved andy AA> Hello Nick, AA> I recently did a similar thing for $(DEL). AA> Here is what I learned (with help from Ben and Stephen): AA> Keep ＠ and - flags outside of the variable definition as they would break AA> inside ＠if exist $(SRC)\dump-id.c $(DEL) $(SRC)\dump-id.c AA> Could you please rewrite your patch to produce this: AA> COPY=xcopy /q /y COPYDIR=xcopy /q /y /e ... ＠$(COPY) config.h $(SRC) ... AA> Best regards, AA> Adrian Andy> At 06:44 PM 5/21/01 +0400, Nick Pakoulin wrote: >>> `nmake install -f xemacs.mak' command might take ages to complete on my >>> Windows2000 box because `copy' command asks confirmation to overwrite >>> files in destination folders. >>> >>> I replaced all direct calls to `copy' and `xcopy' commands with COPY and >>> COPYDIR variables. >>> >>> Nick >>> Index: xemacs.mak =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/CVSroot/XEmacs/xemacs/nt/xemacs.mak,v retrieving revision 1.58.2.3 diff -u -r1.58.2.3 xemacs.mak --- xemacs.mak 2001/05/17 13:37:39 1.58.2.3 +++ xemacs.mak 2001/05/22 09:41:33 ＠＠ -48,6 +48,11 ＠＠ # Define a variable for the 'del' command to use DEL=-del +# Define a variable for 'copy' command to use +# Suppress confirmation for overwriting files +COPY=xcopy /q /y +COPYDIR=xcopy /q /y /e + # Program name and version !include "$(XEMACS)\version.sh" ＠＠ -502,13 +507,13 ＠＠ $(SRC)\paths.h $(SRC)\config.h: config.h - copy config.h $(SRC) + ＠$(COPY) config.h $(SRC) $(SRC)\Emacs.ad.h: Emacs.ad.h - copy Emacs.ad.h $(SRC) + ＠$(COPY) Emacs.ad.h $(SRC) $(SRC)\paths.h: paths.h - copy paths.h $(SRC) + ＠$(COPY) paths.h $(SRC) #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ＠＠ -1411,22 +1416,22 ＠＠ cd $(NT) ＠echo Installing in $(INSTALL_DIR) ... ＠echo PlaceHolder > PlaceHolder - ＠xcopy /q PROBLEMS "$(INSTALL_DIR)\" - ＠xcopy /q PlaceHolder "$(INSTALL_DIR)\lock\" + ＠$(COPY) PROBLEMS "$(INSTALL_DIR)\" + ＠$(COPY) PlaceHolder "$(INSTALL_DIR)\lock\" $(DEL) "$(INSTALL_DIR)\lock\PlaceHolder" - ＠xcopy /q $(LIB_SRC)\*.exe "$(INSTALL_DIR)\$(EMACS_CONFIGURATION)\" - ＠copy $(LIB_SRC)\DOC "$(INSTALL_DIR)\$(EMACS_CONFIGURATION)" - ＠copy $(CONFIG_VALUES) "$(INSTALL_DIR)\$(EMACS_CONFIGURATION)" - ＠copy $(SRC)\xemacs.exe "$(INSTALL_DIR)\$(EMACS_CONFIGURATION)" - ＠xcopy /e /q $(XEMACS)\etc "$(INSTALL_DIR)\etc\" - ＠xcopy /e /q $(XEMACS)\info "$(INSTALL_DIR)\info\" - ＠xcopy /e /q $(XEMACS)\lisp "$(INSTALL_DIR)\lisp\" + ＠$(COPY) $(LIB_SRC)\*.exe "$(INSTALL_DIR)\$(EMACS_CONFIGURATION)\" + ＠$(COPY) $(LIB_SRC)\DOC "$(INSTALL_DIR)\$(EMACS_CONFIGURATION)" + ＠$(COPY) $(CONFIG_VALUES) "$(INSTALL_DIR)\$(EMACS_CONFIGURATION)" + ＠$(COPY) $(SRC)\xemacs.exe "$(INSTALL_DIR)\$(EMACS_CONFIGURATION)" + ＠$(COPYDIR) $(XEMACS)\etc "$(INSTALL_DIR)\etc\" + ＠$(COPYDIR) $(XEMACS)\info "$(INSTALL_DIR)\info\" + ＠$(COPYDIR) $(XEMACS)\lisp "$(INSTALL_DIR)\lisp\" ＠echo Making skeleton package tree in $(PACKAGE_PREFIX) ... - ＠xcopy /q PlaceHolder "$(PACKAGE_PREFIX)\site-packages\" + ＠$(COPY) PlaceHolder "$(PACKAGE_PREFIX)\site-packages\" $(DEL) "$(PACKAGE_PREFIX)\site-packages\PlaceHolder" - ＠xcopy /q PlaceHolder "$(PACKAGE_PREFIX)\mule-packages\" + ＠$(COPY) PlaceHolder "$(PACKAGE_PREFIX)\mule-packages\" $(DEL) "$(PACKAGE_PREFIX)\mule-packages\PlaceHolder" - ＠xcopy /q PlaceHolder "$(PACKAGE_PREFIX)\xemacs-packages\" + ＠$(COPY) PlaceHolder "$(PACKAGE_PREFIX)\xemacs-packages\" $(DEL) "$(PACKAGE_PREFIX)\xemacs-packages\PlaceHolder" $(DEL) PlaceHolder

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None 24 years, 1 month

provisor

Внимание! Только что пришло сообщение из Америки: появились новые, чрезвычайно опасные вирусы.Информацию о них нужно разослать по всем известным Вам адресам Очень быстро. Остановите эти вирусы! 1. Только что Microsoft'ом обнаружен и определен как наиболее опасный из всех когда-либо существовавших новый вирус. Этот вирус был обнаружен вчера (позавчера) вечером MCAfee,и против него пока не разработано никакого средства. Этот виррус уничтожает нулевой сектор вашего жесткого диска, тот, где расположена жизненно важная для работы системы информация. Этот вирус действует следующим образом: он сам себя рассылает по всему списку ваших контактов с заголовком "A Virtual Card for you" или "une carte virtuelle pour vous". НЕ ОТКРЫВАЙТЕ НИЧЕГО С ТАКОЙ НАДПИСЬЮ. Как только предполпгаемая виртуальная открытка будет открыта, компьютер зависнет, и пользователь должен будет перезагрузить его. После нажатия клавиш ctrl+alt+dеl или кнопки "reset" вирус уничтожит нулевой сектор, и тогда ваш жесткий диск будет окончательо уничтожен. Пожалуйста, перешлите это письмо как можно большему числу людей. 2. Академия Кретея предупреждает нас о том, что анти-криминальный вирусный центр сообщил об открытии двух новых вирусов. Ониудут рассылаться по e-mail c заголовками "CALIFORNIA IBM" и "GIRL THING". Microsoft сообшает, что они очень опасны, еще более опасны чем "I Love you". Против них не существует никакого средства Лечения,они стирают всю информацию с жесткого диска, уничтожают Internet Explorer Netscape Navigator. Не открывайте ничего с таким заголовком. 3. Если вы получите по e-mail сообщение с вложением экранной заставки под названием "BUDDLY SIP", ни в коем случае его не открывайте. Немедленно его уничтожьте. Открыв его, вы сотрете все данные на своем жестком диске. Этот вирус был запущен 5 (6) дней назад. Если все будут в курсе, запуск этого вируса ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО провалится. БУДЕМ БЛАГОДАРНЫ ВАМ ЗА ТО, ЧТО ВЫ ПЕРЕШЛЕТЕ ЭТО СООБЩЕНИЕ ВСЕМ ВАШИМ КОРРЕСПОНЛДЕНТАМ С наилучшими пожеланиями, (информация получена от Юрия Семенова)

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mailcrypt-3.5.5, XEmacs 21.4 (patch 3), gnupg-1.0.5, cygwin 1.3.1 problems 24 years, 1 month

Dr. Volker Zell

Hi I think there is a bug in the regular expression in mc-gpg.el which is used in mailcrypt-3.5.5 together with gnupg-1.0.5. This is what Brian Warner gets whith his version of gpg: ;31:warner＠zs2-pc4% gpg --list-secret-keys --with-colons --no-greeting ;/home/warner/.gnupg/secring.gpg ;------------------------------- ;sec::1024:17:1FE9CBFDC63B6750:1998-08-04:0:::Brian Warner (temporary GPG key) <warner(a)lothar.com>: ;ssb::1024:20:C68E8DE9F759FBDE:1998-08-04:0::: ;sec::768:17:16BD446D567E33CF:1998-08-04:0:::signature (sample signature key) <key＠key>: ;sec::768:16:D514CB72B37D9AF4:1998-08-04:0:::crypt (crypt) <crypt＠crypt>: ;sec::1024:17:4DBDD3258230A3E0:1998-08-04:0:::dummyy <d＠d>: ;ssb::1024:20:549B0E6CBBBB43D1:1998-08-04:0::: And this is his regexp for matching: (key-regexp "^\$sec\\|pub\$:[^:]*:[^:]*:[^:]*:\$[^:]*\$:[^:]*:[^:]*:[^:]*:[^:]*:\$[^:]*\$:$" ) I'm using gpg-1.05 compiled under cygwin (passing all tests) with (see subject) and I get: [712]> gpg --list-secret-keys --no-greeting --batch --with-colons /users/vzell/.gnupg/secring.gpg ------------------------------- sec:u:1024:17:0A8F8157EBCFE3E8:2001-05-18::::Dr. Volker Zell (Ciko) <dr.volker.zell＠oracle.com>::: ssb::1024:16:2179761C5E488513:2001-05-18::::::: vzell＠VZELL /tmp [713]> gpg --list-secret-keys --no-greeting --batch --with-colons "Dr. Volker Zell (Ciko) <dr.volker.zell(a)oracle.com>" sec:u:1024:17:0A8F8157EBCFE3E8:2001-05-18::::Dr. Volker Zell (Ciko) <dr.volker.zell＠oracle.com>::scESC: ssb::1024:16:2179761C5E488513:2001-05-18::::::e: As you can see I get two more : at the end of each line. Therefore I have to use the following regexp. But then everything works. At least for me. (key-regexp "^\$sec\\|pub\$:[^:]*:[^:]*:[^:]*:\$[^:]*\$:[^:]*:[^:]*:[^:]*:[^:]*:\$[^:]*\$[^:]*:[^:]*:[^:]*:$" ) Ciao Volker

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copy command in xemacs.mak 24 years, 1 month

Nickolay Pakoulin

`nmake install -f xemacs.mak' command might take ages to complete on my Windows2000 box because `copy' command asks confirmation to overwrite files in destination folders. I replaced all direct calls to `copy' and `xcopy' commands with COPY and COPYDIR variables. Nick 2001-05-21 Nick V. Pakoulin <npak(a)ispras.ru> * xemacs.mak (install): Replace calls to (x)copy commands with COPY and COPYDIR variables. (COPY): New (COPYDIR): New Index: xemacs.mak =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/CVSroot/XEmacs/xemacs/nt/xemacs.mak,v retrieving revision 1.58.2.3 diff -u -r1.58.2.3 xemacs.mak --- xemacs.mak 2001/05/17 13:37:39 1.58.2.3 +++ xemacs.mak 2001/05/21 14:38:20 ＠＠ -48,6 +48,11 ＠＠ # Define a variable for the 'del' command to use DEL=-del +# Define a variable for 'copy' command to use +# Suppress confirmation for overwriting files +COPY=＠xcopy /q /y +COPYDIR=＠xcopy /q /y /e + # Program name and version !include "$(XEMACS)\version.sh" ＠＠ -502,13 +507,13 ＠＠ $(SRC)\paths.h $(SRC)\config.h: config.h - copy config.h $(SRC) + $(COPY) config.h $(SRC) $(SRC)\Emacs.ad.h: Emacs.ad.h - copy Emacs.ad.h $(SRC) + $(COPY) Emacs.ad.h $(SRC) $(SRC)\paths.h: paths.h - copy paths.h $(SRC) + $(COPY) paths.h $(SRC) #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ＠＠ -1411,22 +1416,22 ＠＠ cd $(NT) ＠echo Installing in $(INSTALL_DIR) ... ＠echo PlaceHolder > PlaceHolder - ＠xcopy /q PROBLEMS "$(INSTALL_DIR)\" - ＠xcopy /q PlaceHolder "$(INSTALL_DIR)\lock\" + $(COPY) PROBLEMS "$(INSTALL_DIR)\" + $(COPY) PlaceHolder "$(INSTALL_DIR)\lock\" $(DEL) "$(INSTALL_DIR)\lock\PlaceHolder" - ＠xcopy /q $(LIB_SRC)\*.exe "$(INSTALL_DIR)\$(EMACS_CONFIGURATION)\" - ＠copy $(LIB_SRC)\DOC "$(INSTALL_DIR)\$(EMACS_CONFIGURATION)" - ＠copy $(CONFIG_VALUES) "$(INSTALL_DIR)\$(EMACS_CONFIGURATION)" - ＠copy $(SRC)\xemacs.exe "$(INSTALL_DIR)\$(EMACS_CONFIGURATION)" - ＠xcopy /e /q $(XEMACS)\etc "$(INSTALL_DIR)\etc\" - ＠xcopy /e /q $(XEMACS)\info "$(INSTALL_DIR)\info\" - ＠xcopy /e /q $(XEMACS)\lisp "$(INSTALL_DIR)\lisp\" + $(COPY) $(LIB_SRC)\*.exe "$(INSTALL_DIR)\$(EMACS_CONFIGURATION)\" + $(COPY) $(LIB_SRC)\DOC "$(INSTALL_DIR)\$(EMACS_CONFIGURATION)" + $(COPY) $(CONFIG_VALUES) "$(INSTALL_DIR)\$(EMACS_CONFIGURATION)" + $(COPY) $(SRC)\xemacs.exe "$(INSTALL_DIR)\$(EMACS_CONFIGURATION)" + $(COPYDIR) $(XEMACS)\etc "$(INSTALL_DIR)\etc\" + $(COPYDIR) $(XEMACS)\info "$(INSTALL_DIR)\info\" + $(COPYDIR) $(XEMACS)\lisp "$(INSTALL_DIR)\lisp\" ＠echo Making skeleton package tree in $(PACKAGE_PREFIX) ... - ＠xcopy /q PlaceHolder "$(PACKAGE_PREFIX)\site-packages\" + $(COPY) PlaceHolder "$(PACKAGE_PREFIX)\site-packages\" $(DEL) "$(PACKAGE_PREFIX)\site-packages\PlaceHolder" - ＠xcopy /q PlaceHolder "$(PACKAGE_PREFIX)\mule-packages\" + $(COPY) PlaceHolder "$(PACKAGE_PREFIX)\mule-packages\" $(DEL) "$(PACKAGE_PREFIX)\mule-packages\PlaceHolder" - ＠xcopy /q PlaceHolder "$(PACKAGE_PREFIX)\xemacs-packages\" + $(COPY) PlaceHolder "$(PACKAGE_PREFIX)\xemacs-packages\" $(DEL) "$(PACKAGE_PREFIX)\xemacs-packages\PlaceHolder" $(DEL) PlaceHolder

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