Thanks for the recap, Stephen. Whatever we come up with should ideally be short enough for a headline. See https://sourceforge.net/projects/xemacs/ I have also changed the homepage link on SF from http://xemacs.sourceforge.net/ to http://www.us.xemacs.org/ to provide more of a corporate (or should I say orgic) identity. That's non-controversial, I hope. I agree that we should convey that XEmacs is more than an Editor. We probably don't need to stress the Open Source part on the SourceForge site. How about the following? The XEmacs Multi-OS Editing & Development Environment Should we take a vote on these? Here they are: The XEmacs Multi-OS Editing & Development Environment XEmacs - Open Source, Multi-platform, Multi-Language, and _More_ Than Just an Editor XEmacs - Open Source, Multi-platform, Multi-Language, and a Way Of Life XEmacs - Open Source, Multi-platform, and _More_ Than Just an Editor XEmacs - The Multi-Platform Open Source Editor. XEmacs - the Multi-Platform Open Source Editor and Environment XEmacs - the Multi-Platform Platform XEmacs Multi-Platform Open Source Editor XEmacs, an Open Source Editor for MS Windows and Unix Adrian Hrvoje> [ Why is this discussion not on xemacs-beta? ] Stephen> It is now. Recap: Adrian suggests fixing up our "Descriptive Group Stephen> Name" on SourceForge, in particular, to Stephen> XEmacs Multi-Platform Open Source Editor Stephen> Ben Wing proposes an amendment: Ben> why not just be specific about what we support? Stephen> XEmacs, an Open Source Editor for MS Windows and Unix Stephen> Steve Youngs <youngs(a)xemacs.org&gt; writes: Stephen> Yeah. I bet RMS will too. Don't be so competitive. ;-) Hrvoje> How about: Stephen> XEmacs - the Multi-Platform Open Source Editor and Environment Stephen> My two cents: Stephen> XEmacs - Open Source, Multi-platform, and _More_ Than Just an Editor Stephen> I'm really tempted by "More than just another pretty Emacs", but I've Stephen> already gotten enough grief about my .sig. ;-) Stephen> The floor is open... Stephen> -- Stephen> University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Stephen> Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 Stephen> _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ Stephen> What are those straight lines for? "XEmacs rules." -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/

Adrian Aichner writes: im going away for a few days so i will cast my vote now its so hard to decide but i agree with adrian about not needing Open Source on sourceforge and i do like the Multi-Language bit (not just cause i suggested it) um maybe we could nail something together from the good bits of each so maybe XEmacs - Multi-platform, Multi-Language, Environment um what *does* the X stand for anyway eXtensible ?? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Brown Web Programmer/Sys Admin/Apache Admin Education Development Web peter(a)edw.com.au www.edw.com.au rendhalver(a)users.sourceforge.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------