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Adrian Aichner

>>>>> "Steve" == Steve Youngs <youngs(a)xemacs.org> writes: Steve> * Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.de> writes: >>>>>>> Steve Youngs writes: >>> Oops, just found another problem with building JDE, sorry Andreas. >>> With PRELOADS in the Makefile set to: >>> ,---- >>> | PRELOADS = -eval "(push (expand-file-name \"lisp\") load-path)" -l cl-macs \ >>> | -l cus-face -l eieio.el -l jde.el -l jde-db.el -l jde-run.el >>> `---- >>> make bindist gives: >>> ,---- >>> | Cannot open load file: semantic >>> | xemacs exiting >>> | . >>> | make: *** [lisp/auto-autoloads.elc] Error 255 >>> `---- >>> If I take out the PRELOADS it builds with no errors. >> Strange, I can't reproduce this. Do you have the semantic package in >> yor tree? Steve> I sure do. Steve> I thought setting PRELOADS to... Steve> ,---- Steve> | PRELOADS = -eval "(setq load-path (nconc load-path '(\"lisp\" \"../semantic\")))" \ Steve> | -l cl-macs -l cus-face -l eieio.el -l jde.el -l jde-db.el \ Steve> | -l jde-run.el Steve> `---- Steve> would fix it, but that dies with this... Steve> ,---- Steve> | !! Symbol's value as variable is void ((speedbar-dynamic-tags-function-list)) Steve> | >>Error occurred processing lisp/jde-bug.el: Steve> | Symbol's value as variable is void: speedbar-dynamic-tags-function-list Steve> `---- Steve, do you have (locate-library "speedbar") "c:\\XEmacs\\xemacs-packages\\lisp\\speedbar\\speedbar.elc" Best regards, Adrian Steve> -- Steve> |---<Regards, Steve Youngs>-----------[GnuPG KeyID: EFD82ED2]---| Steve> | XEmacs - It's not just an editor... | Steve> | It's a way of life. | Steve> |----------------------------------<mailto:youngs＠xemacs.org>---| -- Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org>

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Re: More JDE woes. 25 years

Steve Youngs

* Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.de> writes: >>>>>> Steve Youngs writes: >> Oops, just found another problem with building JDE, sorry Andreas. >> With PRELOADS in the Makefile set to: >> ,---- >> | PRELOADS = -eval "(push (expand-file-name \"lisp\") load-path)" -l cl-macs \ >> | -l cus-face -l eieio.el -l jde.el -l jde-db.el -l jde-run.el >> `---- >> make bindist gives: >> ,---- >> | Cannot open load file: semantic >> | xemacs exiting >> | . >> | make: *** [lisp/auto-autoloads.elc] Error 255 >> `---- >> If I take out the PRELOADS it builds with no errors. > Strange, I can't reproduce this. Do you have the semantic package in > yor tree? I sure do. I thought setting PRELOADS to... ,---- | PRELOADS = -eval "(setq load-path (nconc load-path '(\"lisp\" \"../semantic\")))" \ | -l cl-macs -l cus-face -l eieio.el -l jde.el -l jde-db.el \ | -l jde-run.el `---- would fix it, but that dies with this... ,---- | !! Symbol's value as variable is void ((speedbar-dynamic-tags-function-list)) | >>Error occurred processing lisp/jde-bug.el: | Symbol's value as variable is void: speedbar-dynamic-tags-function-list `---- -- |---<Regards, Steve Youngs>-----------[GnuPG KeyID: EFD82ED2]---| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor... | | It's a way of life. | |----------------------------------<mailto:youngs＠xemacs.org>---|

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Re: PSGML mode should not override 'M-BS'. 25 years

Dan Holmsand

Martin Buchholz <martin(a)xemacs.org> writes: > >>>>> "DH" == Dan Holmsand <dan(a)innehallsbolaget.com> writes: > DH> (progn > DH> (setq foo-map (make-keymap)) > DH> (define-key foo-map "\e\C-h" 'foo) > DH> (use-local-map foo-map)) > > DH> gives Local Bindings: > DH> M-backspace foo > DH> M-C-h foo > > DH> in xemacs, but > > DH> ESC C-h foo > > DH> in fsf emacs. > > DH> In my opinion, this is pretty counter-intuitive (i.e. a bug) in > DH> xemacs. > > But Emacs would do the same if it also mapped C-h to Backspace instead > of DEL. > > E.g. > > (progn > (setq foo-map (make-keymap)) > (define-key foo-map "\e\C-i" 'foo) > (use-local-map foo-map)) > > Makes both keystrokes Meta+Control+i and Meta+Tab invoke foo in Emacs. That's because only meta+control+i is bound by default in fsf emacs. Try this instead: (progn (global-set-key [(meta tab)] 'foo-bar) (setq foo-map (make-keymap)) (define-key foo-map "\e\C-i" 'foo) (use-local-map foo-map)) Now meta+tab is bound to foo-bar, and meta+control+i to foo in fsf emacs, but both of them are bound to foo in xemacs. That's exactly the same problem as with the whole (meta backspace) vs. \e\C-h thingy. > Perhaps you are arguing that C-h should not be mapped to Backspace. > I might even agree with that. But that will open several old cans > of worms. I'm definitely not arguing THAT. God forbid. /dan -- Dan Ola Holmsand Innehållsbolaget dan(a)innehall.com

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Re: More JDE woes. 25 years

Andreas Jaeger

>>>>> Steve Youngs writes: > Oops, just found another problem with building JDE, sorry Andreas. > With PRELOADS in the Makefile set to: > ,---- > | PRELOADS = -eval "(push (expand-file-name \"lisp\") load-path)" -l cl-macs \ > | -l cus-face -l eieio.el -l jde.el -l jde-db.el -l jde-run.el > `---- > make bindist gives: > ,---- > | xemacs -no-autoloads -batch -eval "(push (expand-file-name \"lisp\") > | load-path)" -l cl-macs -l cus-face -l eieio.el -l jde.el -l jde-db.el > | -l jde-run.el -l > | /home/steve/test-it/build/xemacs-packages/package-compile.el -- jde > | cc-mode semantic debug speedbar edit-utils eterm mail-lib xemacs-base > | -- lisp/auto-autoloads.el > | Bootstrapping objects... > | Bootstrapping objects...done > | Loading customization dependencies... > | Loading customization dependencies...done > | Cannot open load file: semantic > | xemacs exiting > | . > | make: *** [lisp/auto-autoloads.elc] Error 255 > `---- > If I take out the PRELOADS it builds with no errors. Strange, I can't reproduce this. Do you have the semantic package in yor tree? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger SuSE Labs aj(a)suse.de private aj(a)arthur.inka.de http://www.suse.de/~aj

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Re: PSGML mode should not override 'M-BS'. 25 years

Dan Holmsand

Martin Buchholz <martin(a)xemacs.org> writes: > >>>>> "DanH" == Dan Holmsand <dan(a)innehallsbolaget.com> writes: > > DanH> I don't know if it's a bug or a feature - but this is all because > DanH> XEmacs works differently from fsfmacs. Fortran-mode etc all define > DanH> "\e\C-h" in a local keymap, which on XEmacs overrides both M-backspace > DanH> and C-M-h. On fsfmacs it only overrides C-M-h (the intended > DanH> behaviour). > > But FSF Emacs redefines Meta+Backspace if you do > > (global-set-key "\e\C-?" 'backward-char) On my machine, it just redefines M-DEL. > so XEmacs is consistent at the _syntactic_ level. It merely disagrees > on the name of the key labelled "BackSpace" (on my computer). > > DanH> That means that you have to re-assign backward-kill-word explicitly to > DanH> M-BS if you also define C-M-h. > > I vote for someone working with the package maintainers to modify the > key bindings for psgml-mode. > > They can probably be (compatibly!) changed to > > (define-key sgml-mode-map [(meta control h)] 'sgml-mark-current-element) Yes, you're right (I did some testing). Three examples: 1. (progn (setq foo-map (make-keymap)) (define-key foo-map "\e\C-h" 'foo) (define-key foo-map [(meta backspace)] 'backward-kill-word) (use-local-map foo-map)) gives Local Bindings: M-backspace backward-kill-word M-C-h foo in both xemacs and fsf emacs. 2. (progn (setq foo-map (make-keymap)) (define-key foo-map [(meta control h)] 'foo) (use-local-map foo-map)) gives Local Bindings: M-C-h foo in both xemacs and fsf emacs. However... 3. (progn (setq foo-map (make-keymap)) (define-key foo-map "\e\C-h" 'foo) (use-local-map foo-map)) gives Local Bindings: M-backspace foo M-C-h foo in xemacs, but ESC C-h foo in fsf emacs. In my opinion, this is pretty counter-intuitive (i.e. a bug) in xemacs. /dan -- Dan Ola Holmsand Innehållsbolaget dan(a)innehall.com

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More JDE woes. 25 years

Steve Youngs

Oops, just found another problem with building JDE, sorry Andreas. With PRELOADS in the Makefile set to: ,---- | PRELOADS = -eval "(push (expand-file-name \"lisp\") load-path)" -l cl-macs \ | -l cus-face -l eieio.el -l jde.el -l jde-db.el -l jde-run.el `---- make bindist gives: ,---- | xemacs -no-autoloads -batch -eval "(push (expand-file-name \"lisp\") | load-path)" -l cl-macs -l cus-face -l eieio.el -l jde.el -l jde-db.el | -l jde-run.el -l | /home/steve/test-it/build/xemacs-packages/package-compile.el -- jde | cc-mode semantic debug speedbar edit-utils eterm mail-lib xemacs-base | -- lisp/auto-autoloads.el | Bootstrapping objects... | Bootstrapping objects...done | Loading customization dependencies... | Loading customization dependencies...done | Cannot open load file: semantic | xemacs exiting | . | make: *** [lisp/auto-autoloads.elc] Error 255 `---- If I take out the PRELOADS it builds with no errors. -- |---<Regards, Steve Youngs>-----------[GnuPG KeyID: EFD82ED2]---| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor... | | It's a way of life. | |----------------------------------<mailto:youngs＠xemacs.org>---|

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Re: Package freeze - new package release pending 25 years

Steve Youngs

* Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.de> writes: > This might be my last package dance - Steve Youngs is going to take > over after this round. I'll still be around but Steve will be > resonsible. I'll do my best to maintain the high standards Andreas has set. :-) -- |---<Regards, Steve Youngs>-----------[GnuPG KeyID: EFD82ED2]---| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor... | | It's a way of life. | |----------------------------------<mailto:youngs＠xemacs.org>---|

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Re: Package freeze - new package release pending 25 years

Steve Youngs

* Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: > Welcome Steve! Let me know if you need more help with sourgeforge. Thanks Adrian. Pretty sure I've got sourceforge under control. -- |---<Regards, Steve Youngs>-----------[GnuPG KeyID: EFD82ED2]---| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor... | | It's a way of life. | |----------------------------------<mailto:youngs＠xemacs.org>---|

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Re: Package freeze - new package release pending 25 years

Andreas Jaeger

>>>>> Adrian Aichner writes: >>>>> "Andreas" == Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.de> writes: Andreas> Hi XEmacs developers, Andreas> a new package release should happen soonish. Please Andreas> don't add any major changes - except showstoppers - Andreas> without my explicit approval! Andreas> Please give the current packages a thorough testing, I'd Andreas> like to release *stable* packages and Sumos. Andreas> This might be my last package dance - Steve Youngs is Andreas> going to take over after this round. I'll still be Andreas> around but Steve will be resonsible. APA> Hey Andreas, you have been a great package patch tender[1]! Unfortunatly too busy with glibc and x86_64 at the moment. APA> I hope to see you around a lot. APA> Welcome Steve! Let me know if you need more help with sourgeforge. APA> Best regards, APA> Adrian Andreas> Andreas Andreas> -- Andreas> Andreas Jaeger Andreas> SuSE Labs aj(a)suse.de Andreas> private aj(a)arthur.inka.de Andreas> http://www.suse.de/~aj APA> Footnotes: APA> [1] http://xemacs.sourceforge.net/Develop/jobs.html#package Feel free to change the "Primary Positions" to: Package Patch Tender | Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)xemacs.org> | Martin Buchholz | Steve Youngs <youngs(a)xemacs.org> | After your holiday you can put me together with Martin in the secondary column. Thanks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger SuSE Labs aj(a)suse.de private aj(a)arthur.inka.de http://www.suse.de/~aj

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Re: I'm an idiot 25 years

Lennart Staflin

Paul Krause <pkrause(a)ibelong.com> writes: > diff -u c:\Program Files\Xemacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\psgml\psgml.el.~1~ c:\Program Files\Xemacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\psgml\psgml.el > --- c:\Program Files\Xemacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\psgml\psgml.el.~1~ Mon Aug 21 17:36:30 2000 > +++ c:\Program Files\Xemacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\psgml\psgml.el Mon Aug 21 17:36:30 2000 > ＠＠ -426,7 +426,8 ＠＠ > (concat "%S" path-separator > (directory-file-name > sgml-data-directory) > - "%o/%c/%d"))) > + "%o" (string directory-sep-char) > + "%c" (string directory-sep-char) "%d"))) > "*Mapping from public identifiers to file names. > This is a list of possible file names. To find the file for a public > identifier the elements of the list are used one at the time from the > As usually the XEmacs maintainers have confused things by not making it clear what is XEmacs specific. There is no code like the above in the standard PSGML dist. -- Lennart Staflin <lenst(a)lysator.liu.se> /*/ (:ABSOLUTE :WILD)

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