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New xemacs-devel and skk TEST packages uploaded 24 years, 3 months

Andreas Jaeger

I've uploaded new packages TEST packages: - xemacs-devel: Contains a new function compile-and-profile. - skk: Version 10.60. The packages are: skk-1.16-pkg.tar.gz xemacs-devel-1.28-pkg.tar.gz Please test them and send me your results. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger SuSE Labs aj(a)suse.de private aj(a)arthur.inka.de http://www.suse.de/~aj

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Re: Test release of new packages 24 years, 3 months

Andreas Jaeger

>>>>> Yoshiki Hayashi writes: > Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)xemacs.org> writes: >> I've uploaded to ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/beta/experimental a number >> of new packages for testing. Please test them and send your feedback. > Could you please make a new SKK package? Will do this now, I've added a ChangeLog entry myself. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger SuSE Labs aj(a)suse.de private aj(a)arthur.inka.de http://www.suse.de/~aj

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New JDE test release 24 years, 3 months

Andreas Jaeger

I've uploaded jde-1.21-pkg.tar.gz to ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/beta/experimental. It contains a fix for the build problems in the last version, I gave it just a basic testing and it seemed to work. Since I'm not using Java, it might be that there're some hidden problems. Please test this and send me success and failure stories. Thanks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger SuSE Labs aj(a)suse.de private aj(a)arthur.inka.de http://www.suse.de/~aj

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Re: JDE 2.1.9 checked into CVS 24 years, 3 months

Andreas Jaeger

>>>>> Stephen J Turnbull writes: >>>>> "Andreas" == Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.de> writes: Andreas> Could you - or anybody else - please fix this asap? I'd Andreas> like to get a new package release out including a new Andreas> sumo and the broken JDE blocks the release (I'd like to Andreas> have JDE in - but if nobody can fix soon it, the sumo Andreas> will come with the old version). Stephen> I don't know if this will help all problems and I don't have time to Stephen> learn enough about the package to try to test it, but I did have a Stephen> chance to CVS up and look at it. Stephen> bash-2.04$ fgrep -l defmacro *.el Stephen> eieio.el Stephen> jde-db.el Stephen> jde-run.el Stephen> jde.el Stephen> bash-2.04$ fgrep -l defstruct *.el Stephen> bash-2.04$ fgrep PRELOAD ../Makefile Stephen> bash-2.04$ Stephen> strongly suggests that adding Stephen> PRELOADS = -l eieio.el -l jde.el -l jde-db.el -l jde-run.el Stephen> somewhere above the inclusion of XEmacs.rules should help a lot to Stephen> prevent broken .elcs. In fact, jde.el seems to use macros only for Stephen> compatibility with very old versions of customize, and jde-db.el Stephen> contains all calls to the single macro it defines; they can probably Stephen> be omitted from PRELOADS. But eieio.el is just full of macros, used Stephen> all over the place. Using: PRELOADS = -eval "(push (expand-file-name \"lisp\") load-path)" -l cl-macs \ -l cus-face -l eieio.el -l jde.el -l jde-db.el -l jde-run.el Let's me compile everything. I've installed the package locally and couldn't find a direct problem. I'm uploading a new package now for testing. Thanks, Andreas 2000-08-23 Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.de> * Makefile (PRELOADS): Added, as suggested by Stephen J. Turnbull <turnbull(a)sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Index: prog/jde/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/CVSroot/XEmacs/xemacs-packages/prog/jde/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.27 diff -u -u -r1.27 Makefile --- Makefile 2000/08/17 11:28:14 1.27 +++ Makefile 2000/08/23 08:35:49 ＠＠ -36,6 +36,9 ＠＠ lisp/beanshell.elc EXTRA_SOURCES = lisp/eieio.el +PRELOADS = -eval "(push (expand-file-name \"lisp\") load-path)" -l cl-macs \ + -l cus-face -l eieio.el -l jde.el -l jde-db.el -l jde-run.el + #INFO_FILES = $(PACKAGE).htm *.gif DATA_1_FILES = $(wildcard java/classes/jde/wizards/*.class) DATA_1_DEST = jde/java/classes/jde/wizards -- Andreas Jaeger SuSE Labs aj(a)suse.de private aj(a)arthur.inka.de http://www.suse.de/~aj

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Re: JDE 2.1.9 checked into CVS 24 years, 3 months

Andreas Jaeger

>>>>> Michael Sperber writes: Michael> I'm not ignoring these reports. It's just that my work time on XEmacs Michael> is currently limited to weekends. I'll look at it then. Good to know, I'll wait so long - if nobody else find a solution before that. Thanks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger SuSE Labs aj(a)suse.de private aj(a)arthur.inka.de http://www.suse.de/~aj

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Re: JDE 2.1.9 checked into CVS 24 years, 3 months

Andreas Jaeger

>>>>> Andreas Jaeger writes: >>>>> Michael Sperber writes: >> Subject says it: This is a huge checkin, and I haven't tested all >> aspects of JDE. (I hate Java, so my exposure to it is limited to >> teaching.) I may have screwed up in any number of ways. The new JDE >> requires a new speedbar and the semantic package which I checked in a >> while ago. >> I do know there's a newer version of JDE out, but I thought I'd check >> in what I had now. Now that the difference between the official >> release and the XEmacs package is much smaller than before, further >> updates shouldn't be that hard. > To give everybody a chance to test this, I'm uploading new versions of > the three packages now. I'll make a separate announcement. > Michael, could you please check the new packages? Michael, the package as I've put it onto the ftp server doesn't work. We've received already one comment about what's broken and I can send some more. Could you - or anybody else - please fix this asap? I'd like to get a new package release out including a new sumo and the broken JDE blocks the release (I'd like to have JDE in - but if nobody can fix soon it, the sumo will come with the old version). Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger SuSE Labs aj(a)suse.de private aj(a)arthur.inka.de http://www.suse.de/~aj

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Re: JDE 2.1.9 checked into CVS 24 years, 3 months

Michael Sperber

>>>>> "Andreas" == Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.de> writes: >>>>> Andreas Jaeger writes: >>>>> Michael Sperber writes: >>> Subject says it: This is a huge checkin, and I haven't tested all >>> aspects of JDE. (I hate Java, so my exposure to it is limited to >>> teaching.) I may have screwed up in any number of ways. The new JDE >>> requires a new speedbar and the semantic package which I checked in a >>> while ago. >>> I do know there's a newer version of JDE out, but I thought I'd check >>> in what I had now. Now that the difference between the official >>> release and the XEmacs package is much smaller than before, further >>> updates shouldn't be that hard. >> To give everybody a chance to test this, I'm uploading new versions of >> the three packages now. I'll make a separate announcement. >> Michael, could you please check the new packages? Andreas> Michael, the package as I've put it onto the ftp server doesn't work. Andreas> We've received already one comment about what's broken and I can send Andreas> some more. Could you - or anybody else - please fix this asap? I'd Andreas> like to get a new package release out including a new sumo and the Andreas> broken JDE blocks the release (I'd like to have JDE in - but if nobody Andreas> can fix soon it, the sumo will come with the old version). I'm not ignoring these reports. It's just that my work time on XEmacs is currently limited to weekends. I'll look at it then. -- Cheers =8-} Mike Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla

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Re: Please test http://xemacs.sourceforge.net/ 24 years, 3 months

John S. J. Anderson

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: > >>>>> "Gunnar" == Gunnar Evermann <ge204(a)eng.cam.ac.uk> writes: > Gunnar> First of all many thanks to Adrian for doing this! > > Thanks! <AOL>metoo</AOL> > Gunnar> the "local mirror" of Kai Gro"sjohanns's manual is out > Gunnar> of date. Why do we need a mirror anyway? Kai's server > Gunnar> is fine (well, from here in Europe at least). > > Don't know. This should be fixed by the authors of these documents. > > That would be > John S. Jacobs Anderson <jacobs(a)genehack.org> > I believe. IIRC, we mirrored it because the connectivity from the US (as judged by my connectivity from az.us) was spotty. I'll put it on the TODO, but I'm up to my neck in various things, so it might be awhile... Oh, and I think I'm jacobs(a)xemacs.org, at least on this list. 8^) > Gunnar> Is Sandra our webmaster? I thought she did _only_ the > Gunnar> FAQ? :-) Shouldn't Adrian be listed in this somewhere? > > I guess I should be listed. Probably as secondary. I'll submit a > patch if people agree. I agree; patch yourself in. Based on the amount of work you've been doing, you could easily be a co-primary -- you and Sandra should sort that out. > Gunnar> - Maybe you could rephrase the "conform..." message > Gunnar> somehow. It really looks like a broken script. At least > Gunnar> change the order of the sentences around. Maybe be more > Gunnar> verbose: "This HTML page has been validated using [] and > Gunnar> conforms with []". > > I tried to be terse, but realize that the current wording isn't a > complete sentence and leaves room for misunderstanding. > > What do others think about this? I also find it on the ugly side, and if I didn't know better, I'd think it was a broken script of some kind. However, I do think the intent of indicating that we're outputting valid HTML is good. Genpage has a hook (I forget the name) to run a script over the output page _after_ it's been written. It might be nice to utilize that to run a Perl (or even sed) script that detects a valid?yes:no output in the page and replaces it with either a link to the W3C valid HTML logo/button or an error message. By doing this, you could place the logo or the error message anywhere in the page, so that (for example) it could be in the footer proper. (I know, I know, patch it myself. 8^) And I will, but it might be awhile, as I said above.) As an aside, Adrian, I encourage you to write up some sort of description of what you and Martin have done in integrating Genpage, makefiles, the Sourceforge tools, and the various parts of XEmacs into a 'story' or 'narrative' form. I think you could easily get it published on one of the *nix/Open Source sites, or even in one of the *nix magazines, which might make for some nice publicity for the XEmacs project. > I am still eager to get feedback on problems with > http://xemacs.sourceforge.net/About/Website.html > > It would be best if people would try development work on the new site > (just small changes like you suggest in this mail) and report any > problems. The spirit is willing, but the time is lacking. If all goes well, I'll have a look in the next day or so. If all goes as _expected_, I'll have a look this weekend or early next week. 8^/ john. - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ John S Jacobs Anderson \ <URL:http://www.xemacs.org> You'll have to pry my Emacs from my cold \ jacobs(a)xemacs.org dead oversized control-pressing left pinky finger. -- Randal L. Schwartz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Mailcrypt 3.5.5 and Gnu Privacy Guard iD8DBQE5o0RbWRJRdOm3KFARAlkCAKCZV1gc0xX1qwZ4x7H2LLbhT8LDzQCdFw1f M0nwPRXK3Fhy3BdvOhIS0+M= =eYqW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Two questions re. PSGML validation issues 24 years, 3 months

Jerry James

Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> wrote: [Speaking of the XHTML DTD:] > Look good. I have to manually switch to xml-mode though, to get the > DTD parsed. Is this right? Yes, unfortunately. I think I remember seeing somebody submit a patch to add a .xml -> xml-mode mapping to auto-mode-alist, but you'll also need an .xhtml -> xml-mode mapping for this, I guess. Ooh, html3-mode is still listed in auto-mode-alist. That doesn't exist anymore. Can somebody rip that out of there? > Will XML documents eventually use a .xml extension? In general, yes. However, specific XML DTDs (such as XHTML) may have more logical file extensions. Maybe we should have something like this in auto-mode-alist (although I'm not sure it would help): ("\\.x.*ml\\'" . xml-mode) > I have yet to find an instance where PSGML screws up. It messes up on some of the <link> and <meta> tags on some of my pages. I've never tried to track down why, though. It might be easy to fix. I'll admit that I've never had PSGML give a false warning on the body of a document (although the HTML I write tends to be extremely simple in form). Anyway, back to the topic of making PSGML's warnings parseable by compilation-mode. Have you tried trapping them with (current-message)? -- Jerry James Email: james(a)eecs.ukans.edu WWW: http://www.eecs.ukans.edu/~james/

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RE: Voice recognition 24 years, 3 months

Andrew Begel

Yes, I'll be working on it quite a bit this fall, though it will be for a specialized use. I'll send you a copy of the code via email. Andy > -----Original Message----- > From: james(a)eecs.ukans.edu [mailto:james＠eecs.ukans.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 3:26 PM > To: Andrew Begel > Cc: xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org > Subject: Re: Voice recognition > > > Andrew Begel <abegel(a)cs.berkeley.edu> wrote: > > :) I wrote one of these modules for a project a few weeks > ago. It's not in > > great shape (i.e. it only performs very basic recognition and buffer > > insertion (none of that understanding the english language > stuff), but it's > > good to serve as a prototype for connecting ViaVoice on > Windows to XEmacs. > > Cool! Do you plan to work on it any more? If not, would you mind > making it available for me to hack on it some? I'm actually > interested > in making voice recognition work on Linux, rather than Windows, by the > way. > -- > Jerry James > Email: james(a)eecs.ukans.edu > WWW: http://www.eecs.ukans.edu/~james/ >

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