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Re: Please build "Uzbek Black" and test it, last call for showstoppers 27 years

Hrvoje Niksic

SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: > Ben Wing <ben(a)666.com> writes: > > > Make the change to the windows resource format. > > I have no idea what this is referring to, but will gladly apply a > patch from someone who does. I believe it's referring to the `resource' image instantiator format[1], which is too-generic a name for something pretty much windows-specific, so it should be renamed to `mswindows-resource' or something like that. `cursor-font' should likewise be renamed to `x-cursor-font', but the advantage for resource->mswindows-resource renaming is that we haven't yet released an XEmacs with the `resource' instantiator format. Ben's idea is to unite these two formats into a more palatable window-system-independent pointer shape interface, so that you can specify the pointer as: [pointer-shape :type i-beam] without worrying whether the current window system supports i-beam by default, or whether it calls it i-beam. The internal code would take care of doing The Right Thing across window systems. [1] Which is, needless to say, completely undocumented. Gripe, gripe. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- Then... his face does a complete change of expression. It goes from a "Vengeance is mine" expression, to a "What the fuck" blank look.

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Re: Where do you want to go tomorrow? 27 years

Hrvoje Niksic

karlheg(a)inetarena.com (Karl M. Hegbloom) writes: > >>>>> "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> writes: > > Hrvoje> I'd have to learn Scheme to be able to contribute to such > Hrvoje> an XEmacs at all. > > I think you should learn scheme before you argue against it anyway, > Hrvoje. Fair advice. >From what I've glimpsed, call/cc looks like GOTO on acid. However, I'd better base my judgement on knowledge rather than on glimpses. I'll try to buy the book Justin recommended. > Tell us what you think of Scheme after that, Please. I will. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- "Silence!" cries Freydag. "I did not call thee in for a consultation!" "They are my innards! I will not have them misread by a poseur!"

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Re: cannot build w3 27 years

SL Baur

>> There's no w3-cfg* at all in the package directory :-(. Yup. My bad. They're new files that didn't get checked in. They're in the CVS tree now. They're also small, so here a tarball.

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Re: Where do you want to go tomorrow? 27 years

Karl M. Hegbloom

>>>>> "P" == P E Jareth Hein <jareth(a)camelot.co.jp> writes: P> The basic arguments I can see for replacing the lisp engine P> would be easing of support problems (separate from P> packaging/object systems, although that would obviously help P> things out a LOT), adding of features that are truly needed P> (threading, lexical scoping and packages to name three) to P> support improvements in current usage, and speedups. It would be neat to have something like the `fasl' files too... and done with mmap or something, so that three or four invocations of XEmacs running in one box would share those RAM pages.

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Re: Please build "Uzbek Black" and test it, last call for showstoppers 27 years

SL Baur

Ben Wing <ben(a)666.com> writes: > Make the change to the windows resource format. I have no idea what this is referring to, but will gladly apply a patch from someone who does.

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Re: Where do you want to go tomorrow? 27 years

Karl M. Hegbloom

>>>>> "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> writes: Hrvoje> I'd have to learn Scheme to be able to contribute to such Hrvoje> an XEmacs at all. I think you should learn scheme before you argue against it anyway, Hrvoje. Don't knock it until you've tried it. Please get a copy of either "Scheme and the Art of Programming" or "Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs", download MIT Scheme, and learn a little of it. I expect you could finish `the art' in three weeks. Tell us what you think of Scheme after that, Please.

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Re: Where do you want to go tomorrow? 27 years

Karl M. Hegbloom

>>>>> "Michael" == Michael Sperber <sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> writes: Michael> (Note that the reverse is not generally possible, since Michael> Common Lisp is not properly tail-recursive and does not Michael> support control abstraction.) I guess these are the main things that Common Lisp lacks over Scheme. You're talking about `call-with-current-continuation'. Clisp is a very rich language, with a large vocabulary, CLOS and threads. What Scheme has that?

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Re: On est en finale :-) 27 years

Hrvoje Niksic

Holger Schauer <schauer(a)coling.uni-freiburg.de> writes: > >>>>"Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic schrieb am 10 Jul 1998 22:31:01 +0200: > > Hrvoje> football countries in the world. For us, the true highlight > Hrvoje> of the Cup was the victory over Germany, the established > Hrvoje> football super-force. > > As a German, I'm always surprised why Germany is thought of being a > soccer super-force. Probably a combination of traditional good results, and the famous names in the national team. According to oft-quoted statistics, the last time the German football team was defeated with such a result was in 1958 against France, making this "their worst World Cup defeat in 40 years." > Currently, the team has at least two great weaknesses: it is much > too old and the midfield players are simply not good enough. Same > argument holds for most people playing offense, J.Klinsman for > example is just no longer effective as he has been in the World Cup > 1990. So, no surprise on my side. Interesting. The media created an image of Germans strongly believing the game against Croatia to be a setup, especially Worn's red card. See <URL:http://www.france98.com/english/news/recap59.htm> for details. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- * Q: What is an experienced Emacs user? * A: A person who wishes that the terminal had pedals.

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Re: sun-sparc-solaris2.6 libtiff config question 27 years

Adrian Aichner

>>>>> "Paul" == Paul Keusemann <pkeusem(a)visi.com> writes: Try adding --site-prefixes=/usr/local/ to your configure options. Good Luck, Adrian Paul> but I can't get configure to find it. I've changed my Paul> LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable to check /usr/local/lib before Paul> /usr/openwin/lib, /usr/local/lib is in --site-libraries and Paul> --site-runtime-libraries and I've tried adding "-R Paul> /usr/local/lib -L /usr/local/lib" to --ldflags. -- Adrian Aichner Applications Engineer Teradyne GmbH Semiconductor Test Group Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com

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cannot build w3 27 years

Andreas Jaeger

I've tried to build the packages (updated via cvs) and got problems in w3 after a make clean: aj＠arthur: 14:20:00 /mnt/xemacs/cvs-sources/xemacs-packages/comm/w3 $ make /mnt/xemacs/build-20.5/src/xemacs -no-autoloads -batch -eval "(push \"`pwd`/lisp/\" load-path)" -l cl-macs -l cus-face -l docomp -l w3-vars.el -l ../../package-compile.el -- w3 mail-lib xemacs-base -- lisp/base64.el xemacs exiting.Cannot open load file: w3-cfg make: *** [lisp/base64.elc] Error 255 There's no w3-cfg* at all in the package directory :-(. Could this please added? Thanks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj(a)arthur.rhein-neckar.de jaeger(a)informatik.uni-kl.de for pgp-key finger ajaeger(a)alma.student.uni-kl.de

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