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[Success] 21.0 "Thuringian" XEmacs Lucid on i686-pc-linux 26 years, 5 months

Hayashi Tanaka

> XEmacs Build Report as generated > by build-report-version 1.35 follows: > Contents of /home/tanaka/src/xemacs-21.0-b45/Installation: > (Output from most recent run of ./configure)

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["Eric S. Raymond" <esr@snark.thyrsus.com>] The Trove project -- next-generation Internet software archiving 26 years, 5 months

SL Baur

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XEmacs 21.0-b45/pre2 "Thuringian" is released 26 years, 5 months

SL Baur

The next edition of XEmacs 21.0 has been uploaded to the ftp site. ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/beta/xemacs-21.0/ CVS sources are at http://cvs.xemacs.org/ Installable Lisp packages are in: ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/beta/xemacs-21.0/packages/binary-packages/ The CVS tag for this beta is `r21-0b45'. Please use the tarballs on the FTP site in preference to the CVS tree if you can. NOTE: The tarballs are named `b45', but this is not a beta. It unfortunately is not a release candidate due to some last minute MS Windows font and frame changes, but should be fairly close. Build it as highly optimized as you dare and make it feel pain and see how it goes. Send problems, questions, etc. to xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org, patches to xemacs-patches(a)xemacs.org. The next release is unscheduled, but will probably be made early next week depending upon circumstances. Updated packages: sounds-au-1.01: Repackaged for creation of `package-info'. No other changes. sounds-wav-1.01: Updated sound files from Adrian Aichner xemacs-devel-1.13: Updated find-func.el from Jens Petersen.

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Re: [PATCH] package-get.el (was: Is there a way to add packages from within XEmacs) 26 years, 5 months

SL Baur

Samuel Mikes <smikes(a)alumni.hmc.edu> writes: >>> "APA" == Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: APA> It would probably be good enough to just APA> (require 'package-get-base) > You'd have to modify package-get-base.el to > (provide 'package-get-base) > because it currently doesn't. package-get-base.el is script generated so there's no reason why a provide can't be easily added. You'll have one next time around. --- /tmp/make-pkginfo Fri Jun 19 17:34:50 1998 +++ /usr/local/bin/make-pkginfo Fri Jun 19 17:35:36 1998 ＠＠ -9,3 +9,4 ＠＠ echo -n "'(" cat **/package-info echo "))" +echo "(provide 'package-get-base)"

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Re: Re[1]: how to fix cursor-font? 26 years, 5 months

Hrvoje Niksic

"Eric M. Ludlam" <zappo(a)ultranet.com> writes: > >>> Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> seems to think that: > >"Eric M. Ludlam" <zappo(a)ultranet.com> writes: > > > >No, your call to decide whether speedbar should specify this stuff > >explicitly in its frames. I think it's not really needed. > > > >I think it is not needed. > > I'm perfectly happy to remove the cursor bindings for those > situations where they are non functional. However, my opinion for > changing the default cursors (when available) is that speedbar is > not an editor. Well, technically it's an editor, but it's trying to > represent non-editor things. Its a mutation of a tree widget or > list. As such, a text I beam is not applicable because there is no > text to "edit". I can follow your reasoning, but shouldn't the same apply to W3 mode, Customize and even Gnus and VM? All of them represent "non-editor" things in very much the same way, so your pointer changes look gratuitous to me. Anyway, if you insist that the speedbar pointer shapes must differ from others, it should be implemented for all window systems. All you need to do is remove the properties from the plist and set up the frame-specific instantiators at the same place where you create the Speedbar frame. Something like: (cond ((eq (console-type) 'x) (set-glyph-image text-pointer-glyph [cursor-font ...] speedbar-frame) ...) ((eq (console-type) 'mswindows) (set-glyph-image text-pointer-glyph [resource ...] speedbar-frame) ...)) > In the greater scheme of things it makes little difference, but > every little bit helps. :) I would say the same thing, but for the contrary. > Anyway, I'll make the ms windows change for the next version based > on Andy's earlier technical information. Please don't. I'd like XEmacs to behave the same under all window systems, as far as possible. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- main(){printf(&unix["\021%six\012\0"],(unix)["have"]+"fun"-0x60);}

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Re: Re[1]: how to fix cursor-font? 26 years, 5 months

Hrvoje Niksic

"Eric M. Ludlam" <zappo(a)ultranet.com> writes: > >>> Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> seems to think that: > >Andy Piper <andyp(a)parallax.co.uk> writes: > > > >> >2) I don't see any particular use in changing the default pointers for > >> > speedbar frame, but since it was done in FSF Emacs, I figured that > >> > it should be done in XEmacs too. So the "I don't see the value of > >> > these three" comment is mine. If Eric agrees, we might want to > >> > remove them altogether. > >> > >> I would tend towards this. I would like to see this particular UI > >> metaphor applied globally to XEmacs on Windows since it is one that > >> users are used to with web browsers (and looks much better > >> IMHO). Either way it should probably be provided as a global > >> customize option rather than specific to speedbar. > > > >OK. I think this is Eric's call to make. Eric? > > My call to decide XEmacs' global mouse cursor metaphore? No, your call to decide whether speedbar should specify this stuff explicitly in its frames. I think it's not really needed. I think it is not needed. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners.

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Re: sounds-wav-1.0-pkg.tar.gz update [was: fixes for native build of 21.0-b43] 26 years, 5 months

SL Baur

Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: > Steven, is there a package-get-base update for the sound packages yet? There should be one in today's release.

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Re: [Fabrice POPINEAU <popineau@esemetz.ese-metz.fr>] Re: [Fabrice POPINEAU <popineau@ese-metz.fr>] [PATCH]: fixes for native build of 21.0-b43 26 years, 5 months

SL Baur

Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: >>>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper <andyp(a)parallax.co.uk> writes: Andy> Note that the volume probably needs changing (increasing) on Andy> them as well since I get a large discrepancy between the Andy> xemacs sounds and other sounds on my system. > Beats me. Is there a way to `normalize' volume for sound files? I don't know, probably. We shouldn't be doing things that prevent proper operation of a mixer program. There have been complaints about that in the past. Andy> I suggest you tar and gzip them and put them in incoming on Andy> altair.xemacs.org. Steve can pick them up from there. Can > Will do if I get thus far. I see a tarball named `sounds-wav-1.0-adrian-pkg.tar.gz'. Should that be installed? I can play all the sound files in it with `wavplay' on Linux.

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Re: [Fabrice POPINEAU <popineau@esemetz.ese-metz.fr>] Re: [Fabrice POPINEAU <popineau@ese-metz.fr>] [PATCH]: fixes for native build of 21.0-b43 26 years, 5 months

SL Baur

Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: > I suggest renaming README.wav in the package to just README since it > is NOT a wav file. Likewise for the README.au file in the sound-au > package. The two packages install into the same etc/sounds directory and there shouldn't be any barriers to having both sets of sound files and both README's. Does it cause any real problems?

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Re: [Build failed] 21.0 "Swedish Landrace" 26 years, 5 months

SL Baur

Paul Keusemann <pkeusem(a)visi.com> writes: > Got the following when building against fresh packages dir from the > binary tarballs: > Building finder database ... > ^G > xemacs exiting.Opening input file: Permission denied, /usr/local/lib/xemacs/pack > ages/lisp/gnus/md5.el > gmake: *** [lisp/finder-inf.el] Error 255 Delete md5.el. It's not supposed to be leaking out into the distribution.

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