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Re: [bug] custom-load.el bad in gnus 5.4.67 binary package 26 years, 6 months

Hrvoje Niksic

SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: > Do we need to keep the old Gnus package around? Gnus 5.6 seems > stable enough to replace it. We don't, and I agree. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- We are all just prisoners here of our own MAKEDEV.

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Re: [bug] custom-load.el bad in gnus 5.4.67 binary package 26 years, 6 months

Greg Klanderman

No biggie - I hand edited the custom loads. As for the old Gnus, I'm still using it because I just haven't wanted to risk needing to spend time updating my .gnus... greg >>>>> "sb" == SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: sb> sb> Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> writes: >> greg(a)alphatech.com (Greg Klanderman) writes: >>> it is using custom-put. sb> >> It should be updated via `M-x Custom-make-dependencies'. custom-put >> is an old osbolete function left from the 20.3 beta cycle which I have >> now removed. sb> sb> Do we need to keep the old Gnus package around? Gnus 5.6 seems stable sb> enough to replace it. sb>

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Re: 21.0-b40-pre4: Wierdness in about page on NT 26 years, 6 months

SL Baur

Jonathan Harris <jhar(a)tardis.ed.ac.uk> writes: > Damon Lipparelli wrote: >> >> With the NT native build, including native XPM support: In the "about" >> page, when next to the XEmacs logo, the cursor is the height of the >> logo. > That's probably originally my doing. The cursor height is equal to the > line height and not to the character height. Is that wrong? In this case, yes. We used to have problems like this in the X11 code but it appears to have been fixed. In X11 the cursor now appears the same height as the default font.

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Re: [bug] custom-load.el bad in gnus 5.4.67 binary package 26 years, 6 months

SL Baur

Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> writes: > greg(a)alphatech.com (Greg Klanderman) writes: >> it is using custom-put. > It should be updated via `M-x Custom-make-dependencies'. custom-put > is an old osbolete function left from the 20.3 beta cycle which I have > now removed. Do we need to keep the old Gnus package around? Gnus 5.6 seems stable enough to replace it.

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Re: [Failure] XEmacs 21.0b40p4 (Saanen-pre4) on HPUX 9.05 26 years, 6 months

SL Baur

Nobu Toge <toge(a)accad1.kek.jp> writes: [filled and edited for line length reasons] > EMACSBOOTSTRAPLOADPATH= ... > -o ../lib-src/DOC -d ... > abbrev.c alloc.c blocktype.c buffer.c bytecode.c > callint.c callproc.c casefiddle.c casetab.c > chartab.c cmdloop.c cmds.c console.c > console-stream.c data.c device.c dired.c doc.c > doprnt.c dynarr.c editfns.c elhash.c emacs.c eval.c > events.c $(extra_objs) event-stream.c extents.c `$(extra_objs)'? > faces.c fileio.c $(LOCK_OBJ) filemode.c floatfns.c `$(LOCK_OBJ)'? > fns.c font-lock.c frame.c general.c getloadavg.c > glyphs.c glyphs-eimage.c $(gui_objs) hash.c `$(gui_objs)'? > imgproc.c indent.c insdel.c intl.c keymap.c > $(RTC_patch_objs) line-number.c lread.c lstream.c `$(RTC_patch_objs)'? > macros.c marker.c md5.c minibuf.c objects.c opaque.c > print.c process.c profile.c pure.c rangetab.c > redisplay.c redisplay-output.c regex.c search.c > $(sheap_obj) signal.c sound.c specifier.c strftime.c `$(sheap_obj)'? > symbols.c syntax.c sysdep.c undo.c $(x_objs) `$(x_objs)'? > widget.c window.c ralloc.c > sh: syntax error at line 4: `(' unexpected > *** Error code 2 That appears to be coming from the unsubsituted variables noted above. They are supposed to be substituted by Make. > ... > At this moment I cannot even tell what this "line 4" means. > If someone kindly gives me what to look for, perhaps I can do a bit more > bug hunting. Maybe it's an HP make bug. Do things work better if you do it with GNU make?

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Re: enable-clash-detection 26 years, 6 months

SL Baur

Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> writes: > Georg Nikodym <georgn(a)canada.sun.com> writes: Hrvoje> I think we should reenable the clash detection by default, Hrvoje> and fix the problems if/when they arise. >> >> Clash detection is an incredible fucking drag in an environment such >> as the one here. (...) It's really hard to explain to the spoiled >> bastard that has a 4 CPU ultra that he has to wait for an NFS server >> to listen to him before he can to a find-file on a local disk path! >> >> Sorry, but I feel pretty strongly about this one. It would greatly help if Sun could donate a few of those 4 CPU Ultra machines to XEmacs developers so we can feel your pain. > OK, what you say makes sense. I say we keep it disabled by default, > and roll Jan's patch into 21.1. O.K. with me.

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Re: Saanen-pre4 and news 26 years, 6 months

Michael Harnois

Michael Harnois <mharnois(a)sbt.net> writes: > Damn. Just a quick message as I go out the door: I just built > Saanen-pre4 from CVS and Gnus won't open my news server. Is there > anything that changed that could possibly cause this, or is it > coincidental with something else I could have done? I can telnet to > the server from this machine ... Never mind. The dipshits at my ISP screwed up their routing table. -- Michael D. Harnois, Redeemer Lutheran Church, Washburn, IA mharnois(a)sbt.net aa0bt(a)aa0bt.ampr.org Everything I did in my life that was worthwhile, I caught hell for. -- Earl Warren

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Re: enable-clash-detection 26 years, 6 months

Hrvoje Niksic

Georg Nikodym <georgn(a)canada.sun.com> writes: > Hrvoje> I think we should reenable the clash detection by default, > Hrvoje> and fix the problems if/when they arise. > > Clash detection is an incredible fucking drag in an environment such > as the one here. (...) It's really hard to explain to the spoiled > bastard that has a 4 CPU ultra that he has to wait for an NFS server > to listen to him before he can to a find-file on a local disk path! > > Sorry, but I feel pretty strongly about this one. OK, what you say makes sense. I say we keep it disabled by default, and roll Jan's patch into 21.1. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- Reporter: Mr Gandhi, what do you think of Western Civilization? Gandhi: I think it would be a good idea.

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Re: zap-to-char and keyboard-quit [was - including or up-to?] 26 years, 6 months

Hrvoje Niksic

greg(a)alphatech.com (Greg Klanderman) writes: > Speaking of zap-to-char, is the behavior of M-z C-g right? It's not. I noticed it too several times. FSFmacs behaves sensibly here. I tried to fix it, but it didn't look trivial -- at least not without breaking something else. I'll phone Ben and ask him. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- If anything goes wrong, blame the random-number generator!

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Re: [Doc-bug] zap-to-char - including or up-to? 26 years, 6 months

Hrvoje Niksic

David C Worenklein <dcw(a)gcm.com> writes: > zap-to-char was up-to-but-not-including in Emacs 18. It was fun > watching all my macros and functions break when RMS changed the > behavior. Ha ha ha! Cool. What a moronic change. (yes, zap-up-to-char is much more useful than zap-to-char.) -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- Satellite Safety Tip #14: If you see a bright streak in the sky coming at you, duck.

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