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Re: [bug] custom-load.el bad in gnus 5.4.67 binary package 26 years, 6 months

Hrvoje Niksic

greg(a)alphatech.com (Greg Klanderman) writes: > it is using custom-put. It should be updated via `M-x Custom-make-dependencies'. custom-put is an old osbolete function left from the 20.3 beta cycle which I have now removed. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- The meta-Turing test counts a thing as intelligent if it seeks to devise and apply Turing tests to objects of its own creation.

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Re: FSF/Interleaf style clash detection 26 years, 6 months

Hrvoje Niksic

Jan Vroonhof <vroonhof(a)math.ethz.ch> writes: > [It is probably abuse of xemacs-patches to send in tentative stuff > like this but I am not sure and the feature deadline is close.] I think we should postpone this for 21.1 and simply leave clash detection off by default for 21.0. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- aibohphobia (ay' bo fo beeya): n. The fear of palindromes.

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Re: enable-clash-detection 26 years, 6 months

William M. Perry

Jan Vroonhof <vroonhof(a)math.ethz.ch> writes: > Georg Nikodym <georgn(a)canada.sun.com> writes: > > > WMP> Well, obviously you need to find someone in > > WMP> marketing/development to provide 4 CPU ultras to all the main > > WMP> XEmacs developers so that they can feel this incredible pain and > > WMP> be just that much more inclined to fix the problem. Because we > > WMP> all know problems we are getting bit by get first priority. :) > > I already fixed it [1] on a single CPU ultra! SHHH!!! You're going to ruin everything! -Bill P.

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Re: XEmacs 20.4: find-function-noselect 26 years, 6 months

SL Baur

Jens-Ulrik Petersen <petersen(a)kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp> writes: > Thanks, I didn't know about `symbol-file'. It will be in the next > version. When was that introduced by the way? (Up to now I have been > using `describe-symbol-find-file' which does much the same I think.) XEmacs 19.14. It didn't work on dumped symbols until relatively recently. ... sb> You'll still need to strip extensions. > (My point was that that part of the code is only run in older > XEmacsen.) Since (file-name-sans-extension ".emacs") => "", I am not > using it yet for the main filename stripping. As a hack you might degrade to something like: (when (string-match "\\(.*\\)\\.elc?\\'" foo) (substring foo (match-beginning 1) (match-end 1))) Is this right? I think so. ... > Are you using the latest version of "find-func", Steve? Apparently not. Where and when did you post the newest version?

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Re: enable-clash-detection 26 years, 6 months

Jan Vroonhof

Georg Nikodym <georgn(a)canada.sun.com> writes: > WMP> Well, obviously you need to find someone in > WMP> marketing/development to provide 4 CPU ultras to all the main > WMP> XEmacs developers so that they can feel this incredible pain and > WMP> be just that much more inclined to fix the problem. Because we > WMP> all know problems we are getting bit by get first priority. :) I already fixed it [1] on a single CPU ultra! Jan [1] To be more correct the Interleaf people fixed it.

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Re: [Doc-bug] zap-to-char - including or up-to? 26 years, 6 months

SL Baur

David C Worenklein <dcw(a)gcm.com> writes: > zap-to-char was up-to-but-not-including in Emacs 18. Ouch, you're right, I misremembered. > It was fun watching all my macros and functions break when RMS > changed the behavior. Well, I put back in a gosmacs transpose characters function (the GNU version confuses the crap out of me), I really would prefer the Emacs 18 behavior of zap-to-char.

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Re: [Q] mirroring the xemacs CVS archive ? 26 years, 6 months

SL Baur

Didier Verna <verna(a)inf.enst.fr> writes: > While we're at it .... sorry to ask those stupid questions, but I > `cvs checkout' xemacs for the first time today: > - it's called xemacs-20 not 21 ? It's called `xemacs-20.0' on Altair due to lack of foresightedness on my part when I first set it up two Decembers ago. > - what's in there seems pretty different from what's in the tarballs. For > instance, there's much more stuff in the lisp dir that seems to conflict > with the packages. That's stuff that has been moved into the Lisp packages. The stuff in the Attic/ is required for consing up old XEmacs versions like say 20.2. > - After `configure'ing and `gmake'ing, I got a full bunch of messages like: > "error: dumped file nyanya.elc does not exist", and then it failed > completely saying "mule-charset not found". Use the -P (prune empty directory) option to `cvs checkout'. This is the classic signature of having an empty obsolete `packages' directory in the XEmacs core. For the record I use a .cvsrc of: diff -ko rdiff -ko update -ko co -ko -P checkout -ko -P

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Re: Is anyone else using zsh as /bin/sh? 26 years, 6 months

SL Baur

William M Perry <wmperry(a)aventail.com> writes: > SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: >> I need the following to avoid a zsh coredump. Can anyone else >> reproduce this? >> >> 1998-05-13 SL Baur <steve(a)altair.xemacs.org> >> >> * configure.in (ZSH_VERSION): zsh-3.1.2 (and zsh-3.0.4) drops >> core on the `unset CDPATH' if running as sh. > Ummm... I would be inclined just to report it as a bug to the zsh people > and ask them to fix it before it comes out of beta. :) I have. The problem is that it exists at least as far back as zsh-2.6-beta20 (June 1996) and zsh-3.0.[45] -- the Official Stable released version so we will need to work around it for awhile.

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Re: [Q] mirroring the xemacs CVS archive ? 26 years, 6 months

Jan Vroonhof

SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: > I believe this could be done the same way I'm currently updating the > XEmacs core CVS -- rsync. You'll have to use ssh though, which rules > France out unless you wish to take your chances[1]. Perhaps we can get a > mirror in the UK or Germany? Aren't the BSD folk using somekind of CVS syncronisation program for that? Jan

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Re: FSF/Interleaf style clash detection 26 years, 6 months

Jan Vroonhof

Jan Vroonhof <vroonhof(a)math.ethz.ch> writes: > Unfortunately my time is up (I need to be off to Rugby training in -20 > minutes). I am hoping somebody can finish this before the deadline. I lied. I have since sent a complete patch to xemacs-patches. Jan

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