October 1998 - XEmacs-Beta - XEmacs Mailing List Archives

Re: [patch] automatic loading of package-get-base 27 years

Jan Vroonhof

greg(a)alphatech.com (Greg Klanderman) writes: I like it!. Especially that I am able to continue without the thing being signed! > Outstanding issues: - Write out the the package-get file we just fetched somewhere so that when for some reason (like host is disconnected from net) we are not able to obtain a recent one we can offer to use the locally cached copy. I might just want to look at the database instead of fetch new packages. - Include a copy of package-get base in the distribution as an intitial 'locally cached copy' > - I've disabled the package-get-custom stuff, someone needs to fix > it and remove the (when nil ... ) at the end of package-get.el Compare MD5 of locally cached copy with newly if fetched one. If different regenerate the package-get-custom-stuff. Jan

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Re: [Urgent, 21.0] Correct big screwup in package-ui 27 years

Jan Vroonhof

Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: > I've tried to apply your patch and it fails: This is against my other patch which is only in the very latest version steve checked into to the CVS and announced. If your package-ui customized and has menus then my older patch is in, if not upgrade. Jan

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Re: installing packages from Sumo 27 years

SL Baur

Jan Vroonhof <vroonhof(a)math.ethz.ch> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: > Sebastien Carpe <scarpe(a)atos-group.com> writes: ... >> after unpacking it, i did >> a symlink from ~/.xemacs/packages to the xemacs-package directory. > This sounds suspect. You are correct. This will not get searched for at the proper time.

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Re: help me fix package-get-base breakage 27 years

Jan Vroonhof

greg(a)alphatech.com (Greg Klanderman) writes: > I think I've nearly got this working, including the > PGP signature verification. Patch should be coming RSN. Please put in an option to do without the signing (defaulting to require-signing of course). Jan

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Re: add package: cvs.el 27 years

SL Baur

Frederic Lepied <fred(a)sugix.frmug.org> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: >>>>>> "GK" == Greg Klanderman <greg(a)alphatech.com> writes: GK> OK, did you let Fred know this? I'll CC him just in case. GK> greg >>>>>> "sb" == SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: sb> sb> Oops. There's still a problem with cvs.el-1.31. It binds `C-c v' > I'm not ready to change the bindings because a lot of people use it > where I work. But nothing prevent you from distributing it with > another bindings. We'll have to, unfortunately. C-c [A-Za-z] are strictly forbidden from being bound by distributed Emacs packages because those keybindings are the only keybindings strictly reserved for the user. A compromise would be making an explicit keymap and adding a user option as to where it gets placed. You can then make this go to `C-c v'. sb> which is forbidden. It also doesn't have any autoloads. The latter sb> is easy enough to deal with. > You cannot provide autoloads without splitting the package in 2 files > like vc-hooks and vc. As it is optionnal to use it and not too big, I > think it could be loaded for those who want to use it. I'm using autoload cookies in the version I currently use, but you're right, there needs to be the same kind of split as in vc. The cookies I'm using autoload too much. I'll think about this. I want cvs.el in the distribution and I want it as conveniently available as possible.

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Re: I'm going into withdrawal 27 years

SL Baur

Marcus Thiessel <marcus(a)xemacs.org> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: > SL Baur writes: > | Now that Art Bell has unexpectedly retired yesterday I don't have any > | radio to listen to late at night when I'm hacking XEmacs. :-( > Who is Art Bell? A late night 10PM-3AM US/Pacific (former) talk radio show host and the staple of all my late-night XEmacs hacking. http://www.artbell.com/ Very non-mainstream, not necessarily believable but the best live entertainment for late night I've ever encountered. It's so much cheaper listening to talk radio, now I'm going to have to go out and buy new CD's ... but since there's nothing to listen to late at night maybe I can keep more normal hours ...

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Re: viper build problem [from cvs] 27 years

SL Baur

Jens-Ulrik Petersen <petersen(a)kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: > [Sorry if this has already been reported: I'm not on xemacs-beta now. Sigh. I know the feeling. I'm now unsubscribed from everything not specifically XEmacs. > I am not a viper user and I don't have time to investigate further. > I have Poitou and the latest packages from cvs.] Then we'll have to wait for a confirmation. I don't see a problem. Did you `cvs update' all the glue files like XEmacs.rules and package-compile.el? > make[2]: Entering directory `xemacs-packages/wp/viper' > Creating ./_pkg.el > xemacs -no-autoloads -batch -l ../../package-compile.el -- advice cl ring xemacs-base -- viper-cmd.el > Loading xemacs-20/solaris-build/lisp/auto-autoloads... > Loading xemacs-packages/libs/xemacs-base/auto-autoloads... > Wrong type argument: stringp, nil > xemacs exiting. > make[2]: *** [viper-cmd.elc] Error 255 > make[2]: Leaving directory `xemacs-packages/wp/viper' > make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 I cannot duplicate this.

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viper build problem [from cvs] 27 years

Jens-Ulrik Petersen

[Sorry if this has already been reported: I'm not on xemacs-beta now. I am not a viper user and I don't have time to investigate further. I have Poitou and the latest packages from cvs.] make[2]: Entering directory `xemacs-packages/wp/viper' Creating ./_pkg.el xemacs -no-autoloads -batch -l ../../package-compile.el -- advice cl ring xemacs-base -- viper-cmd.el Loading xemacs-20/solaris-build/lisp/auto-autoloads... Loading xemacs-packages/libs/xemacs-base/auto-autoloads... Wrong type argument: stringp, nil xemacs exiting. make[2]: *** [viper-cmd.elc] Error 255 make[2]: Leaving directory `xemacs-packages/wp/viper' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 -- Jens-Ulrik Holger Petersen <http://www.kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~petersen/> Research Institute for Mathematical Sciences, Kyoto University

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Re: add package: cvs.el 27 years

Frederic Lepied

>>>>> "GK" == Greg Klanderman <greg(a)alphatech.com> writes: GK> OK, did you let Fred know this? I'll CC him just in case. GK> greg >>>>> "sb" == SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: sb> sb> Oops. There's still a problem with cvs.el-1.31. It binds `C-c v' I'm not ready to change the bindings because a lot of people use it where I work. But nothing prevent you from distributing it with another bindings. sb> which is forbidden. It also doesn't have any autoloads. The latter sb> is easy enough to deal with. You cannot provide autoloads without splitting the package in 2 files like vc-hooks and vc. As it is optionnal to use it and not too big, I think it could be loaded for those who want to use it. -- Fred - May the source be with you

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Re: GCC2 merging (was "native language support now available") 27 years

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Rick Campbell <rick(a)campbellcentral.org> writes: > I am not a lawyer, so I don't know how to answer your sentence. I > know that Stallman didn't just invent the assignments; he got the > legal advice. > > It strike me as what I like to call ``a rationalization so good it > almost makes a reason''. Ultimately, RMS likes to be in control, > period. In short -- you don't have any arguments against this line of reasoning, but you dislike RMS, so you feel the need to stoke the now-smoldering embers anyway. Thanks! -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi(a)ifi.uio.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

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