Re: GTK-xemacs transparency patch

On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 02:07:34 +0100, Cristalle Azundris Sabon said: Ahh..now that it's all there, it makes sense even without the image. ;) The problem is, of course, that if there's "padding" between the scrollbar and the window manager borders, the eye tends to think of the scrollbar as "floating" on top of the background, and it doesn't look right unless the padding looks consistent with that interpretation (i.e., if there's a pattern on the background, you expect to see the appropriate pixels in the padding. For even more fun, try it with a window manager that has a "detached" border that "floats" a few pixels away from the window. This tends to make a pseudo-transparent window look worse, because it accentuates what a "real" transparency would show (usually, 'transparent' windows will merely composite themselves onto a copy of the root window, rather than actually implement window stacking. So if your window manager border is making it even MORE obvious that another window is "under" you, the application window "transparency" looks worse.. See this for an example: http://www.xwinman.org/screenshots/wm2-default.gif The only way you can do this "right" is with something like the XRender extension (but even then, you need some cooperation....) Actually, the proper hack until we know how to do it *right* would be to nail that scrollbar to the side, over-riding whatever padding might be there. /Valdis