Re: OK, I'm curious now

Ah, I see. Life gets so complicated sometimes... Thanks for the insight. And I see it is also a lot of extra, unnecessary work to add recode FSF Emacs with the equivalent feature set in a clean room environment, assuming one could find people who have enough interest to do the work but have not already seen the XEmacs code. Of course, the RMS' determination and reluctance to compromise may be frustrating to many people at different times, but it is also a primary virtue that has helped open source and free software to be as successful as it is. George Bernard Shaw had a quote about activists in a cause, which I don't recall well enough to quote, but is applicable here. He was talking about suffragettes. So y'all are caught in the middle between intransigence (RMS, at least as perceived by this group) and apathy (on Sun's part). suspect that this is so low on the Sun radar that there's nobody around to make a decision. However, I was just at the Open Source conference, where Sun formally GPL'd StarOffice and announce OpenOffice.org. Perhaps a note to what's his name who built StarDivision and now runs the group at Sun's that is responsible for these might have an effect. Now might be a good time to talk to Sun - if anyone really cares about this issue, of course. Then again, the XEmacs group may not be all that fond of the idea of working directly on a merged tree with RMS, due purely to political/social factors. GB "Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote: