Re: CVS after Ben merge - how is this *supposed* to work??

Valdis> Whats wrong with this picture? (cut and pasted from output Valdis> of 'make' with 'EMACSDEBUGPATHS=1'): Nothing. This is the way Michael Sperber thinks it should be. There was a thread on this a while back. The solutions are easy: 1. Add --package-path=/usr/local/lib/xemacs to your ./configure args. 2. Install XEmacs in the normal way and run from there. If either of those doesn't work, I definitely want to hear from you. Valdis> Looks to me like the -no-packages on the undump caused Valdis> this code in lisp/dump-paths.el to misfire and undump a Valdis> xemacs.dmp with no packages path: -no-packages is a run-time only issue. Here it's used to prevent pollution of binaries with information about the build environment. Valdis> Is this a --pdump only issue? Does it work for others? No, and no. I'm not sure why the list is not full of enraged people.:) At this point it should not be possible to run in-place without an explicit spec (EMACSPACKAGEPATH at run time or --package-path at build time) for the root of the packages hierarchy, or a packages hierarchy rooted at the build root. Michael argues (more or less) that XEmacs should have only one ROOT such that the executable is $ROOT/bin/xemacs or $ROOT/src/xemacs, and that the packages hierarchies should be rooted in $ROOT/*-packages for run-in-place, or $ROOT/lib/xemacs/*-packages for an installed XEmacs. This is the admin-centric view. The people who get upset about the situation generally feel that the version-specific root (ie, found relative to $ROOT/{bin,src}/xemacs) is one thing, and the packages root something else. They feel that since XEmacs knows where it will be installed (according to --prefix), it should look there by default for the packages root. This is the tester-centric view. :-) -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.