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Summary of XEmacs Issue Tracking System Issues 15 years, 1 month

XEmacs Issue Tracking System

ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2010-12-21 - 2010-12-28) XEmacs Issue Tracking System at http://tracker.xemacs.org/XEmacs/its/ To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue number. Do NOT respond to this message. 507 open ( +4) / 239 closed ( +0) / 746 total ( +4) Open issues with patches: 11 Average duration of open issues: 740 days. Median duration of open issues: 759 days. Open Issues Breakdown new 175 ( +2) deferred 6 ( +0) napping 4 ( +0) verified 51 ( +0) assigned 155 ( +0) committed 25 ( +0) documented 2 ( +0) done/needs work 24 ( +0) Issues Created Or Reopened (4) ______________________________ [Bug: 21.5-b29] Can't build on cygwin 1.7 2010-12-22 http://tracker.xemacs.org/XEmacs/its/issue745 created FKtPp xemacs.org mirror in Hamburg,Germany 2010-12-22 http://tracker.xemacs.org/XEmacs/its/issue746 created af_mirror templating error raised when searching; 'MSetItem' object is u 2010-12-23 http://tracker.xemacs.org/XEmacs/its/issue747 created mike.kupfer [Bug: 21.5-b29] assertion failure while typing in minibuffer 2010-12-24 http://tracker.xemacs.org/XEmacs/its/issue748 created mike.kupfer _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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GPLv3|L8R -- Remaining files one by one: etc/xemacs.1 15 years, 1 month

The XEmacs Package Smoketest

Hi, Next file is "etc/xemacs.1". According to the AUTHORS section of the file itself Ben Wing wrote the man page. From looking in the ChangeLog the following contributions can be deduced: 2010-01-04 Jerry James <james(a)xemacs.org> 2004-12-03 Shyamal Prasad <shyamal(a)member.fsf.org> 2000-09-20 Martin Buchholz <martin(a)xemacs.org> 1998-10-02 Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)arthur.rhein-neckar.de> 1998-07-09 SL Baur <steve(a)altair.xemacs.org> 1998-04-11 Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor] <sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> 1998-01-13 Martin Buchholz <martin(a)xemacs.org> 1997-11-19 SL Baur <steve(a)altair.xemacs.org> So does this mean that Ben Wing did the writing before 1997? Anyone of these authors who is known to object to going GPLv3 or later? Looking at the actual comments in the ChangeLog might suggest that some changes are minor and possibly could be viewed as bug fixes more than contributions. Do you think we should go that deep in the analysis? Yours -- %% Mats _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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GPLv3|L8R -- Remaining files one by one: etc/emacskeys.sco 15 years, 1 month

The XEmacs Package Smoketest

Hi, Next in turn is "etc/emacskeys.sco" (and to break the one by one paradigm I also enclose "etc/emacsstrs.sco" in this question.) These two files were discussed in the thread: http://list-archive.xemacs.org/pipermail/xemacs-beta/2010-February/018772... One of the alternatives was just to delete them which sounds good to me. The logic being: Unclear license, unclear copyright and probably not needed -> remove. These types of files can always be introduced again later and then with good reasons and with a solid copyright and license. Yours -- %% Mats _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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GPLv3|L8R -- Remaining files one by one: Change of strategy!? 15 years, 1 month

The XEmacs Package Smoketest

Hi, I've been thinking of changing my strategy a bit. Been waiting for some feedback on the "PROBLEMS" and "etc/Emacs.ad" files. But except for authors agreeing to release under GPLv3 or later, thank you very much for that, there hasn't been much feedback on my suggestion on the change to the files. My new strategy will be to perform those changes on the assumption my idea about the change isn't bad enough that anyone complained ;-). It is in a branch anyway so it is no big deal to change or revert the changes later if there will be feedback. I will thus continue with the "Remaining files one by one"-effort to deal with the last 10!!!! or so files that hasn't been covered yet! Yes we are that close now! Yours -- %% Mats _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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GPLv3|L8R -- Remaining files one by one: PROBLENS 15 years, 1 month

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Hi, The file PROBLENS describes the different problems there has been over time to build XEmacs on different platforms. It also starts by saying it is mostly of historical interest in that XEmacs today does not require bleeding edge features. So I guess this file is not as desperately needed to be part of the distribution then if there would be problems with getting copyright to be correct. Similar to the CHANGES-beta the recent contributions can be found by examining hg log. The full change list goes back further though. At the time of writing it strikes me that the ChangeLog file as well can be used for deducing the authors. Maybe even better and easier!? A pipe grepping through the it gives this list from which creating appropriate copyrights is easy. (Finding all entries that matches the regular expression PROBLEM.*:) Does this list look reasonable? Any one in the list who is known to object to going GPLv3 or later? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 2010-01-14 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org> 2010-01-13 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org> 2009-11-18 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2007-03-14 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2006-05-17 Malcolm Purvis <malcolmp(a)xemacs.org> 2006-05-17 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2005-11-08 Malcolm Purvis <malcolmp(a)xemacs.org> 2005-03-06 Malcolm Purvis <malcolmp(a)xemacs.org> 2005-01-31 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org> 2003-09-20 Rodney Sparapani <rsparapa(a)mcw.edu> 2003-04-28 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2003-03-27 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2003-03-01 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org> 2003-02-20 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org> 2003-01-31 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2003-01-14 Jerry James <james(a)xemacs.org> 2002-11-12 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2002-11-12 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2002-10-31 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2002-10-18 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2002-10-17 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2002-09-27 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2002-10-08 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2002-09-20 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2002-08-10 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2002-07-24 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2002-07-04 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2002-07-02 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2002-05-17 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2002-05-04 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2001-05-04 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org> 2001-07-22 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2001-11-21 Robert Pluim <rpluim(a)bigfoot.com> 2001-03-23 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2001-01-18 Martin Buchholz <martin(a)xemacs.org> 2001-01-17 Martin Buchholz <martin(a)xemacs.org> 2001-01-16 Robert Pluim <rpluim(a)bigfoot.com> 2001-01-16 Martin Buchholz <martin(a)xemacs.org> 2000-12-26 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2000-12-20 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2000-06-27 Darryl Okahata <darrylo(a)soco.agilent.com> 2000-02-19 Marcus Thiessel <marcus(a)xemacs.org> 1999-01-05 Gunnar Evermann <ge204(a)eng.cam.ac.uk> 1999-02-16 Andy Piper <andy(a)xemacs.org> 1998-12-28 Martin Buchholz <martin(a)xemacs.org> 1998-09-09 Gunnar Evermann <Gunnar.Evermann(a)nats.informatik.uni-hamburg.de> 1998-08-31 Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor] <sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> 1998-05-11 Martin Buchholz <martin(a)xemacs.org> 1998-04-22 Marcus Thiessel <marcus_thiessel(a)hp.com> 1998-03-05 SL Baur <steve(a)altair.xemacs.org> 1998-03-02 SL Baur <steve(a)altair.xemacs.org> 1998-02-19 Karl M. Hegbloom <karlheg(a)bittersweet.inetarena.com> 1997-12-17 SL Baur <steve(a)altair.xemacs.org> 1997-11-19 Tor Arntsen <tor(a)spacetec.no> 1997-05-22 Steven L Baur <steve(a)altair.xemacs.org> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Yours -- %% Mats _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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Summary of XEmacs Issue Tracking System Issues 15 years, 1 month

XEmacs Issue Tracking System

ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2010-12-14 - 2010-12-21) XEmacs Issue Tracking System at http://tracker.xemacs.org/XEmacs/its/ To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue number. Do NOT respond to this message. 503 open ( +2) / 239 closed ( +0) / 742 total ( +2) Open issues with patches: 11 Average duration of open issues: 739 days. Median duration of open issues: 752 days. Open Issues Breakdown new 173 ( +2) deferred 6 ( +0) napping 4 ( +0) verified 51 ( +0) assigned 155 ( +0) committed 25 ( +0) documented 2 ( +0) done/needs work 24 ( +0) Issues Created Or Reopened (2) ______________________________ compile.el does not parse GNU Fortran 4.5 errors correctly 2010-12-16 http://tracker.xemacs.org/XEmacs/its/issue743 created MAILER-DAEMON xemacs.org is down 2010-12-18 http://tracker.xemacs.org/XEmacs/its/issue744 created stephen _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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GPLv3|L8R -- Remaining files one by one: CHANGES-beta 15 years, 1 month

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Hi, Now it is time for yet another text information file. This time is it "CHANGES-beta". The contents is entirely news about the 21.5 version. So I guess there is no FSF text in there to worry about. "hg log" provides a bunch of known contributors but there are many also from when cvs was used. I guess adding copyright from all contributors from hg log is straight forward. Do we need to consider contributions before what hg log provides? Yours -- %% Mats _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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GPLv3|L8R -- Remaining files one by one: etc/Emacs.ad 15 years, 1 month

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Hi, I'm getting rather fond if the idea of using the ChangeLogs for finding the authors for these files, like "etc/Emacs.ad" that don't have an known license. So here comes the list for etc/Emacs.ad. 2010-01-04 Jerry James <james(a)xemacs.org> 2003-03-27 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2002-11-11 Stephen J. Turnbull <steve(a)tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> 2002-09-27 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2002-08-31 Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta(a)xemacs.org> 2000-09-16 Martin Buchholz <martin(a)xemacs.org> 2000-08-02 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> 2000-04-15 Andy Piper <andy(a)xemacs.org> 2000-04-12 Andy Piper <andy(a)xemacs.org> 1998-03-09 Kyle Jones <kyle_jones(a)wonderworks.com> 1998-03-01 SL Baur <steve(a)altair.xemacs.org> 1997-12-18 Kyle Jones <kyle_jones(a)wonderworks.com> 1997-10-30 Kyle Jones <kyle_jones(a)wonderworks.com> Any problems with using this author data as basis for copyrights and GPLv3 or later as license? Yours -- %% Mats _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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Summary of XEmacs Issue Tracking System Issues 15 years, 1 month

XEmacs Issue Tracking System

ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2010-12-07 - 2010-12-14) XEmacs Issue Tracking System at http://tracker.xemacs.org/XEmacs/its/ To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue number. Do NOT respond to this message. 501 open ( +0) / 239 closed ( +0) / 740 total ( +0) Open issues with patches: 11 Average duration of open issues: 735 days. Median duration of open issues: 745 days. Open Issues Breakdown new 171 ( +0) deferred 6 ( +0) napping 4 ( +0) verified 51 ( +0) assigned 155 ( +0) committed 25 ( +0) documented 2 ( +0) done/needs work 24 ( +0) _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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set-fill-prefix and newline 15 years, 1 month

Uwe Brauer

Hello I am sure this is very trivial but I can't find out how to do it: set-fill-column is very handy with auto-fill-mode on, however the line is broken according to set-fill-column. But how can I insert a newline with the fill-prefix? thanks Uwe Brauer _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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