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RE: jde considered harmful 21 years, 7 months

Andy Piper

> This must definitely be an Xemacs > problem. Well, probably - although often these things turn out to be due to the different architectures of XEmacs and Emacs. The key here is to find out what the problem actually is. For instance it takes roughly 11 seconds to load JDE on my PIII 850 and 5 seconds to load and fontify a 1500 line Java file. I suspect that the original problem is not so much the speed of JDE but just the time it takes JDE to load on XEmacs. This is on a cygwin compiled XEmacs which is known to be slower than a natively compiled XEmacs. > I tried Xemacs and abandonned it a long > time ago because it thought that a file > loaded through a soft link was different > from the same file loaded along the > normal path and because the the debugger > (JDEbug) took forever. I believe these problems have been fixed. Certainly these things work well enough for me. andy

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Old submatches returned by match-string et al 21 years, 7 months

Martin Stjernholm

There seems to be a case where stale values are returned by match-beginning, match-end and match-string. To reproduce: 1. Start XEmacs with -q -no-site-file. 2. Make an empty buffer, enter "ab" and go back to the beginning. 3. Evaluate (re-search-forward "\$a\$"). 4. Evaluate (re-search-forward "b"). Now (match-string 0) will return "b" as expected, but (match-string 1) will return "a" from the previous search. From the documentation I expect it to return nil (which is also how it works in FSF Emacs). `match-beginning' and `match-end' behave similarly. I've verified this in XEmacs 21.4 (patch 6).

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jde considered harmful 21 years, 7 months

Tom Howland

Dear Bug Team! You need to hold back on some of the packages in the net installer. As a long time fan of xemacs I implore whoever is responsible for putting together the xemacs distributions to please remove jde ... this package, as wonderful as it may be, makes editing java files so slow it is embarrassing. What is happening, I believe, is that the semantic bovinator is munching away all my cycles. For a typical 300 line java source file on my Dell 1 gigahertz 1 gigabyte laptop running XP it takes a couple of seconds fontifying and then after the progress bar of fontification reaches the end. It just sits there sucking down cycles for perhaps 20 seconds more. I remove jde from my machine and everything is cheerfully snappy like it ought to be. I suspect jde is a wonderful package but right now it sucks very much, you really shouldn't be inflicting it on unsuspecting java programmers. jde (along with ada brief and edt and bog knows what else) gets installed by default using the wonderful net installer. You need to turn that stuff off! Regards Tom Howland ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: CYGWIN_NT-5.0 TSUNAMI 1.3.12(0.54/3/2) 2002-07-06 02:16 i686 unknown ./configure '--with-dragndrop' '--with-postgresql=no' '--with-x=no' '--bindir=/usr/local/bin/i686-pc-cygwin' '--with-site-lisp=yes' '--with-ipv6-cname=no' '--with-netinstall' XEmacs 21.4.9 "Informed Management (Windows [2])" configured for `i686-pc-cygwin'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /development/xemacs/xemacs-21.4-release Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/cygwin32.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -I/usr/lib/../include/noX -I/usr/lib/../include/noX -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes Window System: Compiling in support for the Microsoft window system. Using MS-Windows menubars. Using MS-Windows scrollbars. Using MS-Windows dialog boxes. Using MS-Windows native widgets. Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop (EXPERIMENTAL). - Drag'n'Drop prototype: msw. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Internationalization: Compiling in support for file coding. Mail: Compiling in support for POP mail retrieval. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- (/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ecrypto/md5 /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/gnus/md5 /home/tom/elisp/hide-copyleft /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/xemacs-devel/hide-copyleft) Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- ((xslt-process:version 1.1 :type regular) (xslide :version 1.03 :type regular) (xemacs-devel :version 1.48 :type single-file) (xemacs-base :version 1.67 :type regular) (w3 :version 1.25 :type regular) (vm :version 7.07 :type regular) (viper :version 1.34 :type regular) (view-process :version 1.11 :type regular) (vc :version 1.33 :type regular) (tramp :version 1.07 :type regular) (tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular) (tm :version 1.34 :type regular) (time :version 1.11 :type regular) (textools :version 1.12 :type regular) (text-modes :version 1.51 :type single-file) (texinfo :version 1.2 :type regular) (supercite :version 1.19 :type regular) (strokes :version 1.08 :type regular) 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メルマガ購読お申し込みありがとうございました！ 21 years, 7 months

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'package' directory location? 21 years, 7 months

Vladimir G. Ivanovic

Where is the standard (i.e. most natural) location for the CVS 'package' directory relative to the CVS 'xemacs-21.5' directory? --- Vladimir ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Vladimir G. Ivanovic http://leonora.org/~vladimir 2770 Cowper St. vladimir(a)acm.org Palo Alto, CA 94306-2447 +1 650 678 8014

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--with-xfs and Emacs.ad 21 years, 7 months

Ville Skyttä

If building with XFontSet support (--with-xfs), I think it would be neat to also get *menubar*FontSet stuff in Emacs.ad enabled by default, instead of *menubar*Font. I don't know if this is a piece of cake to implement, if not, maybe a line or two in the configure output that would advice the user to do this manually would be nice. RedHat builds --with-xfs, and below is the patch they (have to) apply to Emacs.ad to get the menubars look nice. --- xemacs-21.1.14/etc/Emacs.ad.xfs Fri Jun 22 10:20:01 2001 +++ xemacs-21.1.14/etc/Emacs.ad Fri Jun 22 10:20:35 2001 ＠＠ -196,8 +196,8 ＠＠ ! *menubar*FontSet: -*-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*, \ ! -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-120-*-jisx0208.1983-0 ! -*menubar*Font: -*-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* -*popup*Font: -*-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* +*menubar*FontSet: -*-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* +*popup*FontSet: -*-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* ! Font in the Motif dialog boxes. ! (Motif uses `fontList' while most other things use `font' - if you don't -- \/ille Skyttä ville.skytta at xemacs.org

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REGARDS 21 years, 7 months

JACKSON PEPPLE

Dear Sir, I am Mr. Jackson Pepple, Bank Manager of Orient Bank of Nigeria, Lagos Branch. I have urgent and very confidential business proposition for you. On June 6, 1998, an American Oil consultant/contractor with the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation, Mrs. Ann Barbara Myres made a numbered time (Fixed) Deposit for twelve calendar months, valued at US$25,000,000.00 (Twenty- five Million Dollars) in my branch. Upon maturity, I sent a routine notification to her forwarding address but got no reply. After a month, we sent a reminder and finally we discovered from her contract employers, the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation that Mrs. Ann Barbara Myres died from an automobile accident. On further investigation, I found out that she died without making a WILL, and all attempts to trace her next of kin was fruitless. I therefore made further investigation and discovered that Mrs. Ann Barbara Myres did not declare any kin or relations in all her official documents, including her Bank Deposit paperwork in my Bank. This sum of US$25,000,000.00 is still sitting in my Bank and the interest is being rolled over with the principal sum at the end of each year. No one will ever come forward to claim it. According to Nigerian Law, at the expiration of 5 (five) years, the money will revert to the ownership of the Nigerian Government if nobody applies to claim the fund. Consequently, my proposal is that I will like you as an American to stand in as the next of kin to Mrs. Ann Barbara Myres so that the fruits of this old Woman's labor will not get into the hands of some corrupt government officials. This is simple, I will like you to provide immediately your full names and address so that the Attorney will prepare the necessary documents and affidavits which will put you in place as the next of kin. We shall employ the service of two Attorney for drafting and notarization of the WILL and to obtain the necessary documents and letter of probate/administration in your favor for the transfer. A bank account in any part of the world which you will provide will then facilitate the transfer of this money to you as the beneficiary/next of kin. The money will be paid into your account for us to share in the ratio of 60% for me and 40% for you. There is no risk at all as all the paperwork for this transaction will be done by the Attorney and my position as the Branch Manager guarantees the successful execution of this transaction. If you are interested, please reply immediately via the private email address below. Upon your response, I shall then provide you with more details and relevant documents that will help you understand the transaction. Please observe utmost confidentiality, and be rest assured that this transaction would be most profitable for both of us because I shall require your assistance to invest my share in your country. Awaiting your urgent reply via my email: jackson_pepple(a)totalise.co.uk Thanks and regards. Mr. Jackson Pepple.

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