April 2000 - XEmacs-Beta - XEmacs Mailing List Archives

Intent to implement Emacs 20 find-file-literally 25 years, 3 months

Martin Buchholz

Is there some reason we did not implement this? Is this function perhaps ideologically blasphemous? Kirill, you deleted the related function find-file-binary, but it's used in hexl.el. I intend to implement find-file-literally, and use it in hexl.el. Martin

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How about a new XEmacs logo? 25 years, 3 months

Sergej Malinovski

This is, of course, not a very important issue, or something that (technical) people really care about, but for now I can only help the XEmacs development in this area. I wanted to propose my idea of a new XEmacs logo. Currently I have nothing specific in mind on how that new logo should look like -- I just dislike the old one. The biggest problem with the existing logo is it's transparency. Many people have background color other than default gray and that is one of the reasons why those dislike the logo. I am one of them - I use DarkSlateGray background. You can see how ugly it turns out by visiting XEmacs Beta section of xemacs.org. Also I personally dislike the italic font. In my opinion italic font can only spoil a title or a logo. The very sharp and dark shadow doesn't fit at all. It is too unrealistic to add something to the logo. You might of course disagree with me here, but I don't think people say "wow" about the existing logo. Neither does it reflect the functionality of XEmacs... or it's beauty :-) How old is the existing logo? So, I would like to suggest to make some alternative logos and choose the best one for the upcoming versions. Maybe we should make it a contest, I don't know. Debian people solved their "problem" that way... I took the initiative myself and created one. It can be found at http://dreamer.nitro.dk/linux/xemacs/screenshot.png. It should be considered merely as a suggestion and not necessary something I really want to see in the next versions of XEmacs. I encourage other people to make logos that are better than the existing one, and mine as well. Not to repeat myself too much here is a part of a reply to my logo suggestion from comp.emacs.xemacs: > > In any case, here are my specific objections: first off, the name is > > "XEmacs", not "XEMACS". And here is (was) my answer: > I knew that this could be a discussion topic for some when I was > creating my logo. Personally I see nothing wrong with my choice. This > form (all caps) is used by many print press typographers (or whoever > does the work) as you can notice on front pages of many books and other > print press publications. > > On the other hand I think It would be wrong to write xemacs or Xemacs > (or xEmacs etc.). By writing a word in caps is not a grammar error > unlike the other examples, in my opinion. > > The other side of this style is that is looks better because XEMACS is > more symmetrical than XEmacs. So, what do you think of the whole idea? -- Sergej Malinovski [http://dreamer.nitro.dk]

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Re: XEmacs 21.2.32 on SGI IRIX 25 years, 3 months

Colin Rafferty

Björn Torkelsson writes: > The latest version of XEmacs updated from CVS yesterday (2000-04-03) is > uncompilable under SGI IRIX with the naitive SGI cc compiler. I submitted the patch to xemacs-patches to undo Martin's changes already. Here it is for your personal enjoyment.

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[FAILURE] 21.2.32 25 years, 3 months

Yoshiki Hayashi

I can't build CVS version of XEmacs 21.2 because of new PostgreSQL header searching. My environment is as follows: Debian woody XEmacs 21.2 latest CVS PostgreSQL 7.0-0.beta3-1 Error message is: In file included from /src/xemacs/src/postgresql.c:106: /usr/include/postgresql/libpq-fe.h:27: postgres_ext.h: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [postgresql.o] Error 1 make: *** [src] Error 2 /usr/include/postgresql/libpq-fe.h has #include <postgres_ext.h> and /usr/include/postgrespl/postgres_ext.h exists. But it's not in the path. Didier? -- Yoshiki Hayashi

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Do respect the case (Re: How about a new XEmacs logo?) 25 years, 3 months

Kazuyuki IENAGA

Sandra Wambold <wambold(a)xemacs.org> writes: > I think the case of "XEmacs" should be preserved in any new logo. Yes! "XEmacs" is better than anything else. "Xemacs" is a worst case I think. BTW, I'm in Hungtinton Beach, CA. Does anyone tell me a recommended place to have beer closer to Hungtinton Beach until 7 April? -- kazz

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Re: Crash in syms_of_emacs() 25 years, 3 months

Ulrich Kaage

Hi, again, here is more GDB info - I'm really not able to interpret the output :-) Please see my former posting for a lisp backtrace. (gdb) pobj instance $1 = (Lisp_Image_Instance *) 0x798000 $2 = {header = {lheader = {type = 44, mark = 0, c_readonly = 0, lisp_readonly = 0}, next = 0x6a3ba0, uid = 16869, free = 0}, device = 3845632, name = 3131396, parent = 6539136, type = IMAGE_TEXT, x_offset = 0, y_offset = 0, width = 18, height = 14, display_hash = 0, dirty = 0, size_changed = 0, text_changed = 0, layout_changed = 0, optimize_output = 0, u = {...}, data = 0x0} (gdb) xtype instance record type: image-instance (gdb) call debug_print (instance) #<image-instance (text) on #<x-device on ":0.0" 0x233f> "=>" 0x41e5> this object leads to a call to abort in redisplay-x.c at function x_output_display_block(): switch (XIMAGE_INSTANCE_TYPE (instance)) { . . . case IMAGE_TEXT: case IMAGE_POINTER: default: abort (); } >>>>> "Gunnar" == Gunnar Evermann <ge204(a)eng.cam.ac.uk> writes: Gunnar> Ulrich Kaage <kaage(a)int.uni-karlsruhe.de> writes: >> (gdb) p instance $7 = 8641920 Gunnar> try using the 'pobj' command in gdb and post the result to Gunnar> xemacs-beta. You need to use the .gdbinit file from the Gunnar> XEmacs distribution to get pobj. I think this is explained Gunnar> in the FAQ. Gunnar> thanks. Gunnar -- Dipl.-Ing. U.Kaage Tel. ++49/(0)721/608-6273 Institut fuer Nachrichtentechnik Fax. ++49/(0)721/608-6071 Universitaet Karlsruhe (TH) kaage(a)int.uni-karlsruhe.de 76128 Karlsruhe Home Page und PGP-Key: http://www-int.etec.uni-karlsruhe.de/~kaage/

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installation bug? 25 years, 3 months

Justin Denison 512-996-7729

To whom it may concern: I have installed xemacs-21.1.9 on a sparc solaris2.6 network, and upon execution of xemacs, I get the following error: Wrong lemacs version ("XEmacs 21.1 (patch 9) \"Canyonlands\" [Lucid] (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) of Tue Apr 4 2000 on mrhand"). The LSE requires version 19.11 of lemacs LSE intializaion failed. After clicking "OK" in this dialogue box, xemacs dies. I cannot find any documentation on "LSE". Can you shed some light on this. FYI, I get the same error when I download a pre-compiled 21.1.3 version versus this version which I compiled from source. Regards, Justin Denison

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Re: Mode line offset from mouse pointer 25 years, 3 months

Jan Vroonhof

Ulrich Kaage <kaage(a)int.uni-karlsruhe.de> writes: > Clicking on the mode line and starting dragging, the mode line "jumps" > off the mouse and therefore causes an vertical positive offset between > mode line and mouse pointer that has approx. the size of the > tabs. The code seems to be comparing event-y-pixel against window-pixel-edges. For me window-pixel-edges for the top left window does NOT start with (0 0... Jan

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Re: How about a new XEmacs logo? 25 years, 3 months

Matt Curtin

>>>>> "sew" == Sandra Wambold <wambold(a)xemacs.org> writes: sew> I think the case of "XEmacs" should be preserved in any new sew> logo. So do I. Otherwise, I don't mind the current logo, but I'm not opposed to a new one. -- Matt Curtin cmcurtin(a)interhack.net http://www.interhack.net/people/cmcurtin/

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Re: Crash in syms_of_emacs() 25 years, 3 months

Jan Vroonhof

Ulrich Kaage <kaage(a)int.uni-karlsruhe.de> writes: > I tried to get more info by setting a breakpoint in redisplay-x.c, > line 482. Here is the GDB backtrace (I hope you find it useful): At least it motivated looking further. I think the problem is that Tomonori san forgot add_margin_runes in his patch. Tomonori? Jan

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