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Re: More ESD ./configure bogosity 26 years

Raymond Toy

>>>>> "Jan" == Jan Vroonhof <vroonhof(a)math.ethz.ch> writes: Jan> the moment (but which is no longer valid). It used to be that NAS Jan> always was a thing you had to install yourself and thus was never in On my sparc, it's still that way. :-) Jan> any obvious location. That's what the --site-libraries and --site-include options are for right? If I knew more about configure, I might try my hand at autodetecting NAS. Ray

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Re: Sumo Tarballs uploaded for testing 26 years

Andreas Jaeger

>>>>> Jake Colman writes: >>>>> "AJ" == Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.de> writes: AJ> I'm applying it now. The actual sumos will not have it, but there's AJ> always time for another release. Jake> After you are done with the package upate process, will the new packages Jake> become available through the pui or will it only be available through the Jake> sumo tarball? I'll make them available as normal packages. But one step after the other - and I'm currently ill which slows me further down :-( Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger SuSE Labs aj(a)suse.de private aj(a)arthur.rhein-neckar.de

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Re: Sumo Tarballs uploaded for testing 26 years

Jan Vroonhof

Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.de> writes: > >>>>> Jan Vroonhof writes: > > > Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.de> writes: > > >> > What is _not_ in there (yet) > >> > - New version of cperl-mode (volunteer needed) > >> > - pgml 1.2.x (volunteer needed) > >> > - vcursor.el > >> > - Gnus 5.8.x (wait for higher .x?/Volunteer needed) > >> > - Your favorite package that you always use your own copy from FSF > >> > 20.4/20.5/pre-releease for instead of our version (volunteer > >> > needed) You can also put AucTex 9.9 (volunteer needed) latest ilisp (server unavailable/volunteer need) In that list.. Jan

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Re: [Bug 7694] Changed - docstrings broken in xemacs-mule and other binaries 26 years

Jan Vroonhof

"Dr. Werner Fink" <werner(a)suse.de> writes: > > Jan> [Meta question: Is timp(a)redhat.com the person to contact about the > > Jan> Redhat XEmacs packages. It would be nice to have a liason with each > > Jan> distributor. I occasionally contact the Debian maintainer when have a > > Jan> critical linux bugfix.] > > > > Can we document this somewhere? I would prefer if you would not only > > contact the Debian maintainer but *all* known packagers. For SuSE > > Werner <werner(a)suse.de> is the contact. > > Yep, something like a errata list/URL for XEmacs would be a nice feature > ... for all of us distributors. What exactly would you like to see there, and in what form? A filtered version of the xemacs-patches archive? Something like the list of patches that have been applied to the stable branch, Vin Shelton makes such a list when does so and posts it here. There is currently an idea have the "Approved, needs to into stable branch" replies to xemacs-patches messages be made public. Would that be sufficient. If somebody here can recommend a good system for tracking the patches automatically I would love to here it too. Jan

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Re: Another update of ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/aux/README.aux 26 years

John S. J. Anderson

>>>>> "Martin" == Martin Buchholz <martin(a)xemacs.org> writes: Martin> I would be really happy if someone could htmlize README.aux Martin> and put it up on www.xemacs.org. It's now in my 'to add' queue; should be up by the end of the weekend. Do you have any place you'd specifically like the final file to go? john. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ John S Jacobs Anderson \ <URL:http://www.xemacs.org> You'll have to pry my Emacs from my cold \ jacobs(a)xemacs.org dead oversized control-pressing left pinky finger. -- Randal L. Schwartz

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Re: Sumo Tarballs uploaded for testing 26 years

Jake Colman

>>>>> "AJ" == Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.de> writes: AJ> I'm applying it now. The actual sumos will not have it, but there's AJ> always time for another release. After you are done with the package upate process, will the new packages become available through the pui or will it only be available through the sumo tarball? -- Jake Colman Principia Partners LLC Phone: (201) 946-0300 Harborside Financial Center Fax: (201) 946-0320 902 Plaza II Beeper: (800) 505-2795 Jersey City, NJ 07311 E-mail: colman(a)ppllc.com E-mail: jcolman(a)jnc.com web: http://www.ppllc.com "Every time I think I've idiot-proofed something someone comes up with a better idiot"

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Re: Jobs assignments 26 years

Jan Vroonhof

Gunnar Evermann <ge204(a)eng.cam.ac.uk> writes: > I am not very happy with the current system and even less so with the > way I currently use it. I am planing to investigate alternatives over > Christmas (possibly Mozilla's bugzilla, debian's system or even > Jareth's super-secret system). We need much more functionality than > Jitterbug can provide at the moment. > > What we definitely need is a Gnus backend to access the system with a > sensible interface. I hate Netscape's text widgets! :-) Unfortunately most of the newer ones seem to tend more towards web interfaces. For me it would already be nice if it could figure out related messages from the Reference headers. Then I wouldn't have manual in include the (PR#'s..) all the time. (and use the Bernstein trick to automatically junk messages with a broken reply address). Jan ;; Even includes my typos :-) (defalias 'prepare-bug-response (read-kbd-macro "m C-s misc- m 3*<right> 9*<backspace> xemacs.bugs C-c C-f C-c x emacs- bugs 5*<backspace> bugs＠xemacs. 7*<backspace> cvs.xea 2*<backspace> emacs.org C-c C-f C-s Re: 3*SPC (PER 2*<backspace> R#) <left>")) (add-hook 'gnus-group-mode-hook (lambda () (define-key gnus-group-mode-map [(control c) b] 'prepare-bug-response)))

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Re: [Bug 7694] Changed - docstrings broken in xemacs-mule and other binaries 26 years

Jan Vroonhof

Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.de> writes: > Can we document this somewhere? I would prefer if you would not only > contact the Debian maintainer but *all* known packagers. I would prefer that too. I would be nice if every Linux distributor made that info available to upstream authors. I tried once to locate the Manfrake maintainer (since they seem to be shipping 21.1.7), but I didn't succeed. > For SuSE Werner <werner(a)suse.de> is the contact. Ok, I've added him to my list. Jan

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Re: [Bug 7694] Changed - docstrings broken in xemacs-mule and other binaries 26 years

Andreas Jaeger

>>>>> Jan Vroonhof writes: Jan> [Meta question: Is timp(a)redhat.com the person to contact about the Jan> Redhat XEmacs packages. It would be nice to have a liason with each Jan> distributor. I occasionally contact the Debian maintainer when have a Jan> critical linux bugfix.] Can we document this somewhere? I would prefer if you would not only contact the Debian maintainer but *all* known packagers. For SuSE Werner <werner(a)suse.de> is the contact. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger SuSE Labs aj(a)suse.de private aj(a)arthur.rhein-neckar.de

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Re: Jobs assignments 26 years

Gunnar Evermann

Ben Wing <ben(a)666.com> writes: > The jobs file I created has been up on the web site for some time under > the heading "Dev team responsibilities". good job, thanks! > Japanese Liaison I agree with Stephen that this is not appropriate (he explained why much better than I ever could). I think we need an 'FSF Liaison' much more urgently. This should be someone who regularly tries to sync and coordinate changes/APIs with FSFemacs. Preferably this person should be on the secret FSF mailing list and have access to FSF pretests. > Bug Tracker > The bug tracker is responsible for keeping track of all the bugs > that have been posted anywhere, either to xemacs-beta, > comp.emacs.xemacs, or similar sources. > NO BUG MAY FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS. this is an EXTREMELY ambitious goal, give our development model, but I am trying and eventually will get there. Help from XEmacs experts who do Software Engineering for a living is always appreciated! > The secondary responsibility of the bug tracker is to investigate a > workable bug-tracking system for XEmacs. I know that the Samba > project has such a system in place, so we should just be able to use > theirs, for example. actually we have been using Samba's Jitterbug for some time now: http://cvs.xemacs.org/XEmacs-bugs we've reached 1000 bug reports a couple of weeks ago. I am not very happy with the current system and even less so with the way I currently use it. I am planing to investigate alternatives over Christmas (possibly Mozilla's bugzilla, debian's system or even Jareth's super-secret system). We need much more functionality than Jitterbug can provide at the moment. What we definitely need is a Gnus backend to access the system with a sensible interface. I hate Netscape's text widgets! :-) Gunnar -- Gunnar Evermann Speech, Vision & Robotics Group Cambridge University Engineering Department

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