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OffiX DnD Problems (Re: drag-n-drop core dump) 25 years, 10 months

Oliver Graf

Colin Rafferty <craffert(a)ms.com> writes: > > But you start both XEmacsens with the same -display set, correct? > > I don't start two different XEmacsen. I start one on IRIX, and then > `make-frame-on-display' to the NT (under Exceed). Everything is in > one process. Hmm... > Maybe you are thinking of the Solaris and IRIX versions of XEmacs that > I run. I am pointing them each to the same original display, and then > `make-frame-on-display' to NT. Hmm... it seems that the OffiX code is only good for one display so it is now implemented. To make it multi-display proof I have to remember the atoms for the DnD events on a per-display base. But this will require some (much?) changes... Can I save the atoms to the XEmacs device/display/whatever context? > > then the > > next question is: why do the DnD atoms have different numbers? If they are > > created from the same display, they should be equal (at least this is the way > > I think it should be...). > > They are different because they are from different displays. The 152 > messages are from the IRIX display, while the 133 messages are from > the NT display. And this is the point where the 'original' atoms get overwritten, cause offix.c only keeps one set of atoms. > Maybe 152 is DND on NT? I don't know enough about the X interals to > make an intelligent guess. Correct. And it kills the original atoms and can't remember the others. > The fix would be to have the global variables dnd atom variable > (OldDndProtocol, DndSelection, etc.) be in an alist keyed off the > Display. In this way, `DndIsDropMessage' could check relative to the > Display in the `event' parameter. Yup, same conclusion. > You may want to think about doing something similar for all the other > stuff in `DndInitialize'. Everything is getting set to whatever the > latest display was created. This would be the correct way I have to do it. But this will also result in a (nearly) complete rewrite of the OffiX lib I use (something I always wanted to do but never found the time to...) > I just hope that Steve lets this fix into 21.0. Steven? I think I will not have the time to do this this week. Perhaps I can start this weekend. The simple solution would be only to fix the display/atom stuff (small change) or do the whole thing. How does this fit into the XEmacs 21.0 release schedule? Regards, Oliver.

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Re: XEmacs source tree fork looming -- we need a naming scheme 25 years, 10 months

Hans-Guenter Weigand

>I propose naming the next branch upon jazz musicians. Great! This would really help me choosing the right music to play while XEmacs is compiling! I really appreciate this idea! -hgw

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Re: What is /usr/dt/lib? 25 years, 10 months

SL Baur

Martin Buchholz <martin(a)xemacs.org> writes: > But I don't understand ``Abomination'' Whatever. How come it is pushed down an installer's throat regardless whether Motif and CDE are requested? > - how is /usr/dt different from /bin/cat?? /bin/cat has been assaulted by ham-fisted, knuckle-dragging, neanderthal thugs. This is obscene ... $ /bin/cat --help Usage: /bin/cat [OPTION] [FILE]... Concatenate FILE(s), or standard input, to standard output. -A, --show-all equivalent to -vET -b, --number-nonblank number nonblank output lines -e equivalent to -vE -E, --show-ends display $ at end of each line -n, --number number all output lines -s, --squeeze-blank never more than one single blank line -t equivalent to -vT -T, --show-tabs display TAB characters as ^I -u (ignored) -v, --show-nonprinting use ^ and M- notation, except for LFD and TAB --help display this help and exit --version output version information and exit With no FILE, or when FILE is -, read standard input. Report bugs to textutils-bugs(a)gnu.ai.mit.edu

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Re: What is /usr/dt/lib? 25 years, 10 months

SL Baur

Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> writes: > SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: >> > AFAIK, this is a Sun's abomination. This is where Sun puts >> > preferentially its Motif, Uil and al. libraries. I'm not sure though. >> >> "Abomination", I agree with. > Why? It's added by configure whether one wishes it to be or not. It doesn't appear to have any standards.

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Re: CVS changes... 25 years, 10 months

Adrian Aichner

>>>>> "APA" == Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: >>>>> "Jareth" == P E Jareth Hein <jareth(a)camelot.co.jp> writes: Jareth> For those of you who have checked out a copy of the 'xemacs-psgml' Jareth> module, you have a couple of choices in doing your next update. Jareth> 1) delete the module and start again. Obviously the easiest. APA> Hi Jareth, APA> I did just that but get the following problem: APA> cd c:\export\home\tmp\CVSroot\ APA> cvs -d :pserver:xemacs＠cvs.xemacs.org:/usr/CVSroot checkout APA> xemacs-psgml APA> Compilation started at Wed Jul 08 20:49:08 1998 APA> cvs server: Updating xemacs-psgml APA> U xemacs-psgml/.cvsignore APA> U xemacs-psgml/ChangeLog APA> U xemacs-psgml/Makefile APA> <lines deleted by Adrian> APA> U xemacs-psgml/etc/webtechs.catalog APA> cvs server: Updating xemacs-psgml/etc/ISO_8879-1986 APA> cvs server: Updating xemacs-psgml/etc/ISO_8879-1986/entities APA> U xemacs-psgml/etc/ISO_8879-1986/entities/Added_Latin_1 APA> U xemacs-psgml/etc/ISO_8879-1986/entities/Added_Latin_1_for_HTML APA> U APA> xemacs-psgml/etc/ISO_8879-1986/entities/Added_Math_Symbols:_Delimiters APA> cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot rename file APA> .new.Added_Math_Symbols:_Delimiters to Added_Math_Symbols:_Delimiters: APA> Invalid argument APA> Compilation exited abnormally with code 1 at Wed Jul 08 20:52:31 APA> What do you suggest? Jareth, Steven, these Added_Math_Symbols:_Delimiters Added_Math_Symbols:_Ordinary Added_Math_Symbols:_Relations will have to be renamed to Added_Math_Symbols-_Delimiters Added_Math_Symbols-_Ordinary Added_Math_Symbols-_Relations I believe. Best regards, Adrian APA> Best regards, APA> Adrian Jareth> As usual, if you have any questions, please feel free to ask me. APA> -- APA> Adrian Aichner APA> Applications Engineer APA> Teradyne GmbH APA> Semiconductor Test Group Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 APA> Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 APA> D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com -- Adrian Aichner Applications Engineer Teradyne GmbH Semiconductor Test Group Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com

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Re: CVS changes... 25 years, 10 months

Adrian Aichner

>>>>> "Jareth" == P E Jareth Hein <jareth(a)camelot.co.jp> writes: Jareth> For those of you who have checked out a copy of the 'xemacs-psgml' Jareth> module, you have a couple of choices in doing your next update. Jareth> 1) delete the module and start again. Obviously the easiest. Hi Jareth, I did just that but get the following problem: cd c:\export\home\tmp\CVSroot\ cvs -d :pserver:xemacs＠cvs.xemacs.org:/usr/CVSroot checkout xemacs-psgml Compilation started at Wed Jul 08 20:49:08 1998 cvs server: Updating xemacs-psgml U xemacs-psgml/.cvsignore U xemacs-psgml/ChangeLog U xemacs-psgml/Makefile <lines deleted by Adrian> U xemacs-psgml/etc/webtechs.catalog cvs server: Updating xemacs-psgml/etc/ISO_8879-1986 cvs server: Updating xemacs-psgml/etc/ISO_8879-1986/entities U xemacs-psgml/etc/ISO_8879-1986/entities/Added_Latin_1 U xemacs-psgml/etc/ISO_8879-1986/entities/Added_Latin_1_for_HTML U xemacs-psgml/etc/ISO_8879-1986/entities/Added_Math_Symbols:_Delimiters cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot rename file .new.Added_Math_Symbols:_Delimiters to Added_Math_Symbols:_Delimiters: Invalid argument Compilation exited abnormally with code 1 at Wed Jul 08 20:52:31 What do you suggest? Best regards, Adrian Jareth> As usual, if you have any questions, please feel free to ask me. -- Adrian Aichner Applications Engineer Teradyne GmbH Semiconductor Test Group Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com

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Re: What is /usr/dt/lib? 25 years, 10 months

Adrian Aichner

>>>>> "sb" == SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: sb> Didier Verna <verna(a)inf.enst.fr> writes: >> SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: >>> What is /usr/dt/lib? And why does configure insist on putting it >>> ahead of other X11 libraries despite the presence of options like >>> --with-cde=no and --with-tooltalk=no? sb> I didn't mention, but should, that Motif is also being excluded. >> AFAIK, this is a Sun's abomination. This is where Sun puts >> preferentially its Motif, Uil and al. libraries. I'm not sure though. See http://www.sun.com/solaris/cde/earlier-version/cde-wpaper6.html And it was at that precise moment that he remembered an ancient Eskimo legend wherein it is written...[1] Acknowledgments CDE is a direct result of contributions from many people at Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Novell, and SunSoft. The cooperative efforts of people from OSF, X/Open, and the X Consortium have contributed greatly to the result. And many other companies have made contributions through their involvement in, and adoption of, and ongoing commitment to CDE. References [AK94] Adrian King, Inside Windows 95, Microsoft Press, 1994, ISBN 1-55615-626-X. [CDE95] Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Novell, and SunSoft CDE Joint Development Teams, CDE: Programmer's Overview, CDE: Programming Guide, CDE: Help System Author's and Programmer's Guide, CDE: Internationalization Programmer's Guide, CDE: Application Builder User's Guide, CDE: Style Guide and Certification Checklist, CDE: ToolTalk Messaging Overview, CDE: Dialog and Scripting Services, CDE: User's Guide, CDE: Advanced User's and System Administrator's Guide, CDE 1.0 sample implementation, 1995. sb> "Abomination", I agree with. It doesn't appear to cause any problems sb> with Solaris. How about HP/UX (10.20 to be specific)? Footnotes: [1] Got the reference, anyone? -- Adrian Aichner Applications Engineer Teradyne GmbH Semiconductor Test Group Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com

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Solved? NT binaries don't work on WIndows 95 25 years, 10 months

David Fout

Did anybody ever figure out what the xemacs native compiled binaries do not run under Windows 95? David ---------------------------------------------------------------------- <> David G. Fout Phone: (301) 953-3330 <> <> Century Computing Phone: (410) 792-4634 <> <> 8101 Sandy Spring Road Fax: (301) 953-2368 <> <> Suite 200 Email: dfout(a)cen.com <> <> Laurel, MD 20707 URL: http://www.cen.com/ <> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: What is /usr/dt/lib? 25 years, 10 months

Hrvoje Niksic

SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: > > AFAIK, this is a Sun's abomination. This is where Sun puts > > preferentially its Motif, Uil and al. libraries. I'm not sure though. > > "Abomination", I agree with. Why? -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- - When I die, shall I not be like Enkidu? - Like, no, man, you'll be, like, totally dead.

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Re: What is /usr/dt/lib? 25 years, 10 months

Didier Verna

SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: > What is /usr/dt/lib? And why does configure insist on putting it > ahead of other X11 libraries despite the presence of options like > --with-cde=no and --with-tooltalk=no? AFAIK, this is a Sun's abomination. This is where Sun puts preferentially its Motif, Uil and al. libraries. I'm not sure though. --didier

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