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Re: XEmacs' autoconf weirdness (was Re: Spurious "file has changed on disk" warnings on Linux) 25 years, 4 months

Hrvoje Niksic

wmperry(a)aventail.com (William M. Perry) writes: > Martin Buchholz <martin(a)xemacs.org> writes: > > > >>>>> "Bill" == William M Perry <wmperry(a)aventail.com> writes: > > > > Bill> But libtool will eventually migrate to being able to fully support > > Bill> dlopen'able modules, so this could be used as the basis for some of the > > Bill> module support. I know jean is working on getting libtool to work on sco > > Bill> from some of the messages on the mailing list. :) > > > > Maybe in that case we should wait for libtool dlopen support before > > libtoolizing XEmacs. > > libtool'izing XEmacs would be a separate task. We'd have to > libtool'ize the modules as well, which is what would have to wait. Everybody: WHAT modules? The modules/ directory mostly contains very very obsolete versions of pieces of XEmacs code. eldap.c is totally outdated. base64.c contains code that appears to be based on an old version of Fmd5() from md5.c -- I recognize it by having an enormous and needless number of streams for conversion. I've reported this before, but to no avail (md5.c contains code that shows how it should be done.) Also, someone [sorry, I can't recall the name] is working on rethinking and rewriting the dlopen support to be really useful; what we have at this point should be thought of as an alpha version.

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Re: XEmacs' autoconf weirdness (was Re: Spurious "file has changed on disk" warnings on Linux) 25 years, 4 months

William M. Perry

Martin Buchholz <martin(a)xemacs.org> writes: > >>>>> "Bill" == William M Perry <wmperry(a)aventail.com> writes: > > Bill> But libtool will eventually migrate to being able to fully support > Bill> dlopen'able modules, so this could be used as the basis for some of the > Bill> module support. I know jean is working on getting libtool to work on sco > Bill> from some of the messages on the mailing list. :) > > Maybe in that case we should wait for libtool dlopen support before > libtoolizing XEmacs. libtool'izing XEmacs would be a separate task. We'd have to libtool'ize the modules as well, which is what would have to wait. > Or the next time someone does a major configure tuneup. I'll take a look at it for 21.2 or whatever the major hacking is happening on as soon as the holidays settle down a little. -bp

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Re: [CRASH] 21.2-b5 with Jonathan's gc crash fix applied 25 years, 4 months

Hrvoje Niksic

Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: > >> I'm not sure I understand Jonathan's remark, but I guess he > >> is thinking about the callstack, you can display in MS VC++. > > Hrvoje> No, I think debug_backtrace() is the C function that > Hrvoje> spits out the Lisp backtrace. You get it by calling > Hrvoje> `debug_backtrace()' from your favorite debugger, and > Hrvoje> capturing the resulting output. > > Yep, Hrvoje, I found it in src\print.c. Now I have to figure out > how to call it from within MickeySoft Developer Studio invoked upon > the crash. > > I would be tahnkful for any advice. I think the idea is to invoke the function immediately *before* the crash, not after it. If the crash is happening due to an assert or something like that, under Unix I'd put a breakpoint on assert_failed() and invoked debug_backtrace() from there.

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Re: [BROKEN?] mmencode.exe 25 years, 4 months

Adrian Aichner

>>>>> "Norbert" == Norbert Koch <n.koch(a)delta-ii.de> writes: Norbert> Fabrice POPINEAU <popineau(a)ese-metz.fr> writes: >> Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: >> AFAIK, pgnus-0.65 will allow you to read/send mime messages without >> mmencode ! Norbert> That's correct, also it's horribly slow ... Hello Norbert, I installed pgnus-0.66 a few days ago and find it quite usable, except for some funnies it plays with mail-address header lines. Instead of displaying the full address for some entries in the To: and Cc: fields it displays some truncated names without the ＠sub.domain.parts. Please note that this release does not come with any .elc files. Try compiling all .el files and see how it improves your mileage. Regards, Adrian Norbert> Cheers, norbert. Norbert> -- Norbert> Being a BALD HERO is almost as FESTIVE as a TATTOOED KNOCKWURST. -- Adrian Aichner European Design Center Teradyne GmbH Semiconductor Test Group Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 (What is a Fax?) D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail adrian.aichner(a)teradyne.com

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Re: fix gc pointer 25 years, 4 months

Adrian Aichner

>>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper <andyp(a)parallax.co.uk> writes: Andy> At 01:35 17/12/98 +0100, Adrian Aichner wrote: >>>>>>> "Adrian" == Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: >> >> Andy, >> >> seems like this patch didn't make it into 21.2-b6. Andy> That's correct, because it is a 21.0 fix which will get Andy> synced by Steve (I hope:) Ah, I guess I don't understand enough of the branches-business. Does the above mean that the fixes applied to the 21.0 branch will automagically appear in a future 21.2 beta? Andy> andy -- Adrian Aichner European Design Center Teradyne GmbH Semiconductor Test Group Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 (What is a Fax?) D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail adrian.aichner(a)teradyne.com

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bookmark.el 25 years, 4 months

Graham Todd

Hello, I recently posted an article to comp.emacs.xemacs asking about binding the bookmark jump menu to a key/mouse combination. After picking through dejanews.com it turns out I'm not alone. There's something not working right with respect to pop-up menus and the bookmark package. This is with the very latest package from www.red-bean.com and using the one distributed with 20.4. I'm posting excerpts from the article and a brief message I received from Karl Fogel (bookmark.el's maintainer/author) so whoever is interested can see if a fix is possible for 21.0. Cheers, Graham --- insert ---- The bookmarks package is great and I use it all the time but I've been unable to bind the bookmark menu to a key/mouse combination in XEmacs. This works fine in Emacs but not XEmacs ; Make a popup bookmark menu (global-set-key [(control button1)] 'bookmark-menu-jump) Instead in XEmacs the menu "Jump to Bookmark" comes up with two entries: -*- Jump to Bookmark -*- -*- Jump to Bookmark (1) -*- The first entry is greyed out. Selecting the second entry or simply releasing the mouse button produces: Wrong type argument: stringp, nil Debug on Error produces the following: <snip> On 16 Dec 1998, Karl Franz Fogel <kfogel(a)guanabana.onshore.com> wrote: > I just tried, in XEmacs 20.4, the bookmark.elc distributed with that > XEmacs, and got the same problem you had. I don't really know the > status of the bookmark.el distributed with XEmacs (I maintain to the > FSF's copy, and only upload to their site). Are the XEmacs people > maintaining a branch version? > Do they have to make changes to each new version released with FSF > Emacs? I just don't know. The most recent FSF bookmark.el didn't > seem work very well with XEmacs either, when I tried it just now. > Er, sorry, I'm at a loss. I can't maintain it for both versions -- > that would nearly double the load of maintaining it now. > If you can find a fix, or if you want to maintain it for XEmacs (or > contact the XEmacs maintainers and find out where they get their > bookmark.el from), that would help.

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Re: [CRASH] 21.2-b5 with Jonathan's gc crash fix applied 25 years, 4 months

Adrian Aichner

>>>>> "Norbert" == Norbert Koch <n.koch(a)delta-ii.de> writes: Norbert> If you've set a breakpoint and control flow is in the debugger, Norbert> activate quick watch (mouse or shift-f9) and type the expression Norbert> (debug_backtrace() in your case) at the top and get it evaluated. Ah, Danke Norbert, will do! Norbert> The output should be satisfactory. Norbert> Sorry for the confusion, We both learned something, that's good. Norbert> Cheers, norbert. Norbert> -- Norbert> Now I'm concentrating on a specific tank battle toward Norbert> the end of World War II! -- Adrian Aichner European Design Center Teradyne GmbH Semiconductor Test Group Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 (What is a Fax?) D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail adrian.aichner(a)teradyne.com

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Re: [CRASH] 21.2-b5 with Jonathan's gc crash fix applied 25 years, 4 months

Norbert Koch

Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: > All of my crash reports I sent include at least the CallStack. > > debug_backtrace() is defined in src\print.c but I don't know how I can > call it from MS VC++ after the program crashed. > > Adrian, befuddled. Nay, don't worry ... If you've set a breakpoint and control flow is in the debugger, activate quick watch (mouse or shift-f9) and type the expression (debug_backtrace() in your case) at the top and get it evaluated. The output should be satisfactory. Sorry for the confusion, Cheers, norbert. -- Now I'm concentrating on a specific tank battle toward the end of World War II!

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Re: [CRASH] 21.2-b5 with Jonathan's gc crash fix applied 25 years, 4 months

Adrian Aichner

>>>>> "Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> writes: Hrvoje> Norbert Koch <n.koch(a)delta-ii.de> writes: >> Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: >> >> > >>>>> "Jonathan" == Jonathan Harris <jhar(a)tardis.ed.ac.uk> writes: >> > >> > Jonathan> Adrian Aichner wrote: >> > >> >> > >> This seems to be a new kind... >> > >> > Jonathan> I haven't played with 21.2 since Martin's changes. Could >> > Jonathan> you provide a debug_backtrace() next time you hit this >> > Jonathan> and a description of how to reproduce the problem, or >> > Jonathan> failing that a description of what you were doing. >> > >> > Here's another of these: >> > >> > I have the baby tarpped inside MS VC++. How can I provide you with >> > the debug_backtrace() information? >> > >> >> I'm not sure I understand Jonathan's remark, but I guess he is >> thinking about the callstack, you can display in MS VC++. Hrvoje> No, I think debug_backtrace() is the C function that spits Hrvoje> out the Lisp backtrace. You get it by calling Hrvoje> `debug_backtrace()' from your favorite debugger, and Hrvoje> capturing the resulting output. Yep, Hrvoje, I found it in src\print.c. Now I have to figure out how to call it from within MickeySoft Developer Studio invoked upon the crash. I would be tahnkful for any advice. Adrian -- Adrian Aichner European Design Center Teradyne GmbH Semiconductor Test Group Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 (What is a Fax?) D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail adrian.aichner(a)teradyne.com

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Re: [CRASH] 21.2-b5 with Jonathan's gc crash fix applied 25 years, 4 months

Adrian Aichner

>>>>> "Norbert" == Norbert Koch <n.koch(a)delta-ii.de> writes: Norbert> Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: >> >>>>> "Jonathan" == Jonathan Harris <jhar(a)tardis.ed.ac.uk> writes: >> Jonathan> Adrian Aichner wrote: >> >> >> >> This seems to be a new kind... >> Jonathan> I haven't played with 21.2 since Martin's changes. Could Jonathan> you provide a debug_backtrace() next time you hit this Jonathan> and a description of how to reproduce the problem, or Jonathan> failing that a description of what you were doing. >> >> Here's another of these: >> >> I have the baby tarpped inside MS VC++. How can I provide you with >> the debug_backtrace() information? >> >> Please advise, Norbert> I'm not sure I understand Jonathan's remark, but I guess Norbert> he is thinking about the callstack, you can display in MS Norbert> VC++. There is an option (you know, like right Norbert> mouse-button on the toolbar) to show it. Norbert> The callstack is analogous to the 'where' backtrace in gdb. All of my crash reports I sent include at least the CallStack. debug_backtrace() is defined in src\print.c but I don't know how I can call it from MS VC++ after the program crashed. Adrian, befuddled. Norbert> Norbert, guessing. Norbert> -- Norbert> HELLO KITTY gang terrorizes town, family STICKERED to death! -- Adrian Aichner European Design Center Teradyne GmbH Semiconductor Test Group Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 (What is a Fax?) D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail adrian.aichner(a)teradyne.com

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