I checked with the configuration option --with-toolbars=no. It compiles, it runs even with my init file but it gives me an error which I attach. Recent keystrokes: button1 C-g C-g button1 button1 C-g C-g C-h l Recent minibuffer messages (most recent first): Quit Selection aborted Quit Selection aborted Loading lazy-shot...done Loading lazy-shot... Warning: custom: widget custom-variable, option org-mime-pre-ascii-hook has no associated group Warning: custom: widget custom-variable, option org-mime-pre-org-hook has no associated group Warning: custom: widget custom-variable, option org-mime-pre-html-hook has no associated group Warning: custom: widget custom-variable, option org-mime-send-subtree-hook has no associated group Warning: custom: widget custom-variable, option org-mime-send-buffer-hook has no associated group Warning: custom: widget custom-variable, option week-graph-work-week has no associated group Warning: custom: widget custom-variable, option week-graph-dynamic-width has no associated group Error: An error has occurred while loading /home/oub/.emacs: Symbol's value as variable is void: toolbar-captioned-p Backtrace follows: backtrace(nil t) # bind (standard-output standard-output handler-arg-name) backtrace-in-condition-handler-eliminating-handler(#:load-init-gZK6A36gTed) # bind (errstr #:load-init-gZK6A36gTed) #<compiled-function (from "/home/oub/ALLES/Add-Import/xemacs-gtk/jsparkes-xemacs-gtk-ae9476fcf862/lisp/startup.elc") (#:load-init-gZK6A36gTed) "...(26)" [init-file-had-error user-init-file #:load-init-gZK6A36gTed errstr error-message-string message "Error in init file: %s" lwarn initialization error "An error has occurred while loading %s:\n\n%s\n\nBacktrace follows:\n\n%s\n\nTo ensure normal operation, you should investigate the cause of the error\nin your initialization file and remove it. Use the `-debug-init' option\nto XEmacs to enter the debugger when the error occurs and investigate the\nexact problem." backtrace-in-condition-handler-eliminating-handler t] 8 0x61c>((void-variable toolbar-captioned-p)) # bind (usable-temp glyph-list image) toolbarx-xemacs-image-properties(nil) # bind (insert filtered-props symbol button) toolbarx-xemacs-button-properties((open :image ["new" toolbar-file-icon] :command (message "open"))) # bind (#:--dolist-temp--20174 button left-width bottom-height right-width top-height default-width default-height left bottom right top default locale switches global-flag) toolbarx-xemacs-refresh(nil) # bind (global-flag) toolbarx-refresh(nil) # bind (global-flag meaning-alist buttons) toolbarx-install-toolbar((open save) ((open ["new" toolbar-file-icon] (message "open")) (save ["save" toolbar-disk-icon] (message "save")) (all :alias ((open :toolbar default) (save :toolbar (top . bottom)))))) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) (load-internal "[internal]") load-internal("/home/oub/xemacs/init/xemacs_init.el" nil nil t undecided) # bind (handler path nosuffix nomessage noerror filename) load("/home/oub/xemacs/init/xemacs_init.el" nil nil t) # bind (file) load-file("~/xemacs/init/xemacs_init.el") (cond (running-xemacs (load-file "~/xemacs/init/xemacs_init.el") (define-specifier-tag (quote mule-fonts)) (x-symbol-initialize) (require (quote x-symbol-tex)) (add-to-list (quote x-symbol-tex-image-searchpath) "./fig"))) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) (load-internal "[internal]") load-internal("/home/oub/.emacs" t t t undecided) # bind (handler path nosuffix nomessage noerror filename) load("/home/oub/.emacs" t t t) load-user-init-file() #<compiled-function (from "/home/oub/ALLES/Add-Import/xemacs-gtk/jsparkes-xemacs-gtk-ae9476fcf862/lisp/startup.elc") nil "...(10)" [init-file-had-error load-user-init-file-p load-user-init-file nil] 2 0x61d>() # (unwind-protect ...) call-with-condition-handler(#<compiled-function (from "/home/oub/ALLES/Add-Import/xemacs-gtk/jsparkes-xemacs-gtk-ae9476fcf862/lisp/startup.elc") (#:load-init-gZK6A36gTed) "...(26)" [init-file-had-error user-init-file #:load-init-gZK6A36gTed errstr error-message-string message "Error in init file: %s" lwarn initialization error "An error has occurred while loading %s:\n\n%s\n\nBacktrace follows:\n\n%s\n\nTo ensure normal operation, you should investigate the cause of the error\nin your initialization file and remove it. Use the `-debug-init' option\nto XEmacs to enter the debugger when the error occurs and investigate the\nexact problem." backtrace-in-condition-handler-eliminating-handler t] 8 0x61c> #<compiled-function (from "/home/oub/ALLES/Add-Import/xemacs-gtk/jsparkes-xemacs-gtk-ae9476fcf862/lisp/startup.elc") nil "...(10)" [init-file-had-error load-user-init-file-p load-user-init-file nil] 2 0x61d>) # (condition-case ... . ((error))) # bind (debug-on-error debug-on-error-initial debug-on-error-from-init-file debug-on-error-should-be-set) load-init-file() # bind (command-line-args-left) command-line() # (unwind-protect ...) call-with-condition-handler(#<compiled-function (from "/home/oub/ALLES/Add-Import/xemacs-gtk/jsparkes-xemacs-gtk-ae9476fcf862/lisp/startup.elc") (&optional error-data) "...(50)" [auto-save-list-file-name #:ntl-buffer window-setup-hook term-setup-hook auto-save-list-file-prefix default-directory abbreviate-file-name expand-file-name format "%s%d-%s" emacs-pid system-name run-hooks emacs-startup-hook nil frame-notice-user-settings] 6 0x60a> command-line) # bind (#:ntl-buffer) normal-top-level() # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) To ensure normal operation, you should investigate the cause of the error in your initialization file and remove it. Use the `-debug-init' option to XEmacs to enter the debugger when the error occurs and investigate the exact problem. 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Two comments, which also happens after a short while with -vanilla, - it freezes relativly easy, then save-buffers-kill-emacs does not work and I have to use kill -9 - C-g seems not to work! - I cannot resize it vertically, anybody can? Uwe _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

Done. BTW: when I open the tracker its interface is in Spanish. I find this patronizing behavior, which I have seen in other webpages too, annoying. _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

Uwe Brauer writes: It's not intentionally patronizing. I'm nearly certain that your browser is requesting Spanish (at least above English), and Roundup is simply doing as it was asked to do. (Well, it's been a year or two since I looked at Roundup's request-handling code, but back then it didn't try to detect the country of origin or anything like that.) AFAIK, there's no good solution to this for any popular browser (ie, a way to tell your browser that you care about the language for some pages and not for others). Nor can I solve it without forking Roundup, since the only way to do would be to remove Spanish support altogether. Steve _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta