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Hrvoje Niksic

SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: > Hrvoje's patch reenables the deadly sin of modifying the User's > .emacs, it does not change the behavior that if `custom-file' has > been changed from the default it will not be loaded by XEmacs at > startup. > > We're really going to have to fix this sometime. Writing into > .emacs is suboptimal. As people start to adopt ~/.xemacs/ to put > personal lisp packages in maybe it will be feasible to make a > migration. Just for the record, I agree with this. Even without `.xemacs/', custom-file should default to something other than `.emacs'. To do so, we must make sure that: 1) Old `.emacs' files with custom options are handled gracefully; 2) The new `.xemacs-custom' file is loaded automatically, after `.emacs'. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- The end of the world is coming... SAVE YOUR BUFFERS!

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Re: 21.0 beta41, cygwin32, ~init-file-user doesn't work. 26 years, 10 months

Paul Stodghill

The following code (and several others like it) is used to determine the value of user-init-file, (concat "~" init-file-user "/.emacs") However, cygwin32 doesn't seem to handle the ~username convention. Is there are suggested way to work around this problem? Or should the code be changed? For instances, the HOME environment variable, if set, could be used. (let ((home-directory (or (getenv "HOME") (concat "~" init-file-user)))) ... (concat home-directory "/.emacs") ... -- Paul Stodghill <stodghil(a)cs.cornell.edu> http://www.cs.cornell.edu/stodghil/

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XEmacs 21.0-beta41 "San Clemente" is released 26 years, 10 months

SL Baur

The next edition of XEmacs 21.0 has been uploaded to the ftp site. ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/beta/xemacs-21.0/ CVS sources are at http://cvs.xemacs.org/ Installable Lisp packages are in: ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/beta/xemacs-21.0/packages/binary-packages/ The CVS tag for this beta is `r21-0b41'. To read about the San Clemente Goat please see: http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/goats/sanclem/index.htm * Comments We are officially in feature freeze. There are rough edges in a number of places: platforms that don't build -- hopefully these will work a bit better in beta41, the modeline is still wrong regardless of what color you think it should be -- running xmine trashes it, the modeline shadows can fail to get redrawn, installation support for packages is still very rough, libtiff support isn't there yet -- the most recent libraries are ignored, libgif support hasn't been resolved yet (whether internal to the XEmacs source code, or linked as an external library). Recent reports indicate the MS Windows port is showing signs of maturity. Are we at the point to cast a wider net in search of testers? The rate of releases will be slowing dramatically as things stabilize. Last week there was only one midweek prepatch, this week there probably won't be any. * Updated packages None at this writing. There won't be any package updates probably before next weekend. * Recent Changes *IMPORTANT* xemacs-base has been updated since beta40. Please download and install the new version before starting. The function `kbd' in edmacro.el has been moved into the XEmacs core. *IMPORTANT* pcl-cvs has a critical bug fix due to an XEmacs interface change starting in beta40. If you are using pcl-cvs please upgrade to the new version. e've decided to push forward on Drag'n'Drop and try to get _something_ into the 21.0 release. Hopefully it will be something better than just wildly experimental. Please see the tests in tests/Dnd (droptest.el and dragtest.el) and give them a spin and see well they work or don't work. There's a lot of new MS Windows support in this, including toolbar, processes, and Xpm. I'm happy with the package path/startup path stuff for the first time in a number of betas. Hopefully, we're past the worst of the changes. All path stuffs should work again. The configure option --gung-ho now controls whether minimal tagbits and indexed lrecords are used. Please test the -elc tarball with this beta. I've generated it from a tty-only build for testing. While this should work (and the build now currently assumes it does work), and it seems to work for me, it needs as much testing as possible prior to release. Canna detection should work better. LDAP support should build and run. Multicast support should build and run. The default target of `make' is to build everything. This is almost what `make dist' used to do except that finder-inf.el (the finder database) gets properly bytecompiled. DLL support is now autodetected. The configure option `--with-dlmalloc' has been added so that gmalloc.c can still be used on systems with the Doug Lea new GNU Malloc. The Installation file format has changed slightly -- the version number is now printed in the summary, old copies are not retained, so if you wish old copies you will have to make the copy by hand. The Installation summary is available via the command M-x describe-installation. `XEmacs' can be used for X resources. This feature needs further testing but appears to work. dlmalloc now works with mmap'ping enabled for Linux Libc5 systems. I'm very interested in reports on how XEmacs' virtual memory footprint changes with time with dlmalloc. My own experiences with mmap disabled (only for glibc-2.0 and Mule) show a net win over 20.4. I'm hoping mmap improves things further. The source-packages subdirectory on the FTP site has been abolished in favor of distributing Lisp sources via CVS. The minimum required packages are the following: [Only xemacs-base updated since the last beta, the package version number is relatively unimportant] xemacs-base-1.20-pkg.tar This package contains core functionality not dumped into XEmacs. It includes things like the debugger, comint, ring, etc. mail-lib-1.14-pkg.tar This package contains core functionality common to mail and newsreading. *NOTE:* As of beta39, you must use mule-base-1.16 or later. Note also, as of beta34, overlay.el has been moved to the fsf-compat package. As of beta40, you must have xemacs-base-1.20 or later. If you are building with Mule, you will need to have the mule-base package installed *prior* to dumping XEmacs or you will lose. If you see messages about mule-charset not found, or get a bomb immediately after seeing a message about `loading ... dialog', then you need to stop and install the mule-base package. Other various packages need to be installed prior to dumping XEmacs. They are marked with `dump t' in the package description, see package-get-base.el and package-get.el for an interface. ** ImageMagick has gone away courtesy of Jareth Hein. ** The generalization of the XEmacs internals has continued. Quoting Kyle Jones: If you're feeling maximally gung, add -DUSE_MINIMAL_TAGBITS and -DUSE_INDEXED_LRECORD_IMPLEMENTATION to your compiler flags when you build 20.5. If all is well XEmacs should build and run normally. Update: These options are now enabled by specifying `--gung-ho'. -DUSE_MINIMAL_TAGBITS will be automatically set if using dlmalloc. NOTE: It should *never* be required to use these options for proper operation of XEmacs (with the single exception of -DUSE_MINIMAL_TAGBITS for dlmalloc). A failure _without_ these options set is a bug that needs to be fixed. ** Chinese and Korean Wnn server support has been added to LEIM. Someone familiar to cWnn and kWnn will need to test this out. I haven't heard any reports positive or negative yet. ** 21.0-beta42 (perhaps the final 21.0 beta) is scheduled for Saturday, May 30. ** The highest priority is testing and bug fixing. For those not acquainted with recent XEmacsen (things have changed since 20.3/21.0-b11), there are 4 files in the distribution. Each file has been PGP signed. *** xemacs-21.0-b40-21.0-b41.patch.gz This is a patch from the previous release. Please see the file etc/BETA for patching instructions. As of beta13 we're through the worst of the reorganizations and patching should be pretty smooth from here on out. *** xemacs-21.0-b41.tar.gz This is the core distribution without bytecompiled lisp and without processed texinfo manuals. If you are on a fast machine with a possibly slow connection to the FTP site, this is all you need for an XEmacs non-mule. Untar it, run configure, then run `make' and `make install'. *** xemacs-21.0-b41-info.tar.gz This the processed texinfo manuals. If you have makeinfo installed and your machine has any kind of decent speed, it is quicker to run `make info' from the toplevel and rebuild it yourself than it is to download and untar it. You will need a fairly recent version of makeinfo in order to be able process all the info documentation. At least `makeinfo (GNU texinfo 3.11) 1.68' is recommended. Note that the latest version of GNU texinfo is now 3.12. *** xemacs-21.0-b41-elc.tar.gz This is the bytecompiled lisp. It was freshly bytecompiled from scratch prior to distribution. to 21.0 beta41 "San Clemente" -- MS Windows font charset support from Kirill Katsnelson -- Special glyph fixes from Kirill Katsnelson -- MS Windows Dialog boxes from Kirill Katsnelson -- allow electric slash to be a backslash from Hrvoje Niksic -- Selection cleanup from Andy Piper -- LDAP compilation fixes from Martin Buchholz and Oscar Figueiredo -- MS Windows NT dump fix from Kirill Katsnelson -- gnuserv for MS Windows NT and Cygwin from Andy Piper -- Cursor resource update from Andy Piper -- save-some-buffers fix from Hrvoje Niksic -- Specifier fixes from Hrvoje Niksic -- Various warning fixes from Martin Buchholz -- face fix from Andy Piper -- Various MS Windows fixes from Kirill Katsnelson -- etags.c-13.6 courtesy of Francesco Potortì -- FreeBSD 2.2.6 now supports LC_ALL from Kazuyuki IENAGA -- Toolbar fixes from Kirill Katsnelson -- Ignore most recent libtiff from Martin Buchholz -- minor mode menu cleanup from Hrvoje Niksic -- OpenBSD support from Hans Guenter Weigand -- MS Windows NT process fixes from Kirill Katsnelson -- miscellaneous patches from Martin Buchholz -- MS Windows toolbar hasing fix from Andy Piper -- MS Windows cursor resources update from Andy Piper -- AIX initialization fixes from Michael Sperber -- Startup optimization from Michael Sperber -- MS Windows cursor initialization from Kirill Katsnelson -- miscellaneous patches from Kirill Katsnelson -- 64 bit clean fixes from Olivier Galibert -- Interactive compiled functions and anonymous forms fixes from Hrvoje Niksic -- Miscellaneous cleanup fixes from Altrasoft

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[Success] 21.0 "San Clemente" XEmacs Lucid (beta41) on i686-pc-linux 26 years, 10 months

Hayashi Tanaka

Patched from beta40. $ gcc -v Reading specs from /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/egcs-2.90.29/specs gcc version egcs-2.90.29 980515 (egcs-1.0.3 release) $ rpm -q glibc glibc-2.0.7-7 > XEmacs Build Report as generated > by build-report-version 1.35 follows: > Contents of /home/tanaka/src/xemacs-21.0-b41/Installation: > (Output from most recent run of ./configure)

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[Success without gif] "San Clemente" 26 years, 10 months

Rebecca Ore

Tif for me seems supported. Even though I get warnings about the form, the image shows up fine. Here's the installation file. I'm going to try again with a different gif library. uname -a: Linux ore 2.0.30 #6 Sat Apr 25 16:18:07 EDT 1998 i586 ./configure '--cflags=-g -m486 -Wall -O4 -fno-caller-saves -fno-strength-reduce -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2' '--error-checking=none' '--debug=no' '--with-mule=yes' '--with-site-lisp=yes' XEmacs 21.0-b41 "San Clemente" configured for `i586-pc-linux'. Where should the build process find the source code? /home/rebecca/xemacs-21.0-b41 What installation prefix should install use? /usr/local What operating system and machine description files should XEmacs use? `s/linux.h' and `m/intel386.h' What compiler should XEmacs be built with? gcc -g -m486 -Wall -O4 -fno-caller-saves -fno-strength-reduce -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 Should XEmacs use the GNU version of malloc? yes (Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the Linux C Library.) Should XEmacs use the relocating allocator for buffers? yes What window system should XEmacs use? x11 Where do we find X Windows header files? /usr/X11R6/include Where do we find X Windows libraries? /usr/X11R6/lib Compiling in support for XAUTH. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Compiling in support for JPEG image conversion. Compiling in support for PNG image conversion. Compiling in support for TIFF image conversion. Compiling in native sound support. Compiling in support for Berkeley DB. Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in Mule (multi-lingual) support. Compiling in XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method) support. Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. Compiling in support for OffiX. Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop ( OffiX ). Compiling in support for proper session-management. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Compiling in DLL support. movemail will use "dot-locking" for locking mail spool files. Using Lisp_Objects with minimal tagbits.

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[Success] XEmacs 21.0b41 (San Clemente) 26 years, 10 months

Nobu Toge

XEmacs 21.0b41 builds and runs successfully on i686 linux (Redhat 4.2, kernel 2.0.33) on DELL XPS333 egcs-2.90.27 980315 (egcs-1.0.2 release) binutils-2.8.1.0.1-1 make-3.75-1 hpux 9.05 on HP9000/735 gcc 2.8.1 gnu make 3.76.1 linuxppc (kernel 2.1.24) on PowerMac 7500/604/150 gcc 2.7.2.1-ppclinux binutils-2.8.1.0.18-1E make-3.76-1.2 mule / canna support with TTY/X-window run OK. -- Nobu Toge (toge(a)accad1.kek.jp) uname -a: Linux lcdev.kek.jp 2.0.33 #1 Thu Apr 30 22:55:45 JST 1998 i686 unknown ./configure '--with-mule' '--with-canna' '--cflags=-O6 -mpentiumpro -fno-caller-saves -fno-strength-reduce -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2' '--debug=no' '--error-checking=none' '--with-tty=yes' '--package-path=/usr/local/lib/xemacspack' XEmacs 21.0-b41 "San Clemente" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Where should the build process find the source code? /home/toge/NONRH/XEmacs21.0/xemacs-21.0-b36 What installation prefix should install use? /usr/local What operating system and machine description files should XEmacs use? `s/linux.h' and `m/intel386.h' What compiler should XEmacs be built with? gcc -O6 -mpentiumpro -fno-caller-saves -fno-strength-reduce -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 Should XEmacs use the GNU version of malloc? yes (Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the Linux C Library.) Should XEmacs use the relocating allocator for buffers? yes What window system should XEmacs use? x11 Where do we find X Windows header files? /usr/X11/include Where do we find X Windows libraries? /usr/X11/lib Compiling in support for XAUTH. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Compiling in support for JPEG image conversion. Compiling in support for PNG image conversion. Compiling in support for TIFF image conversion. Compiling in native sound support. Compiling in support for Berkeley DB. Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Compiling in Mule (multi-lingual) support. Compiling in XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method) support. Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. Compiling in support for Canna on Mule. Compiling in support for OffiX. Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop ( OffiX ). Compiling in support for proper session-management. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Compiling in DLL support. movemail will use "dot-locking" for locking mail spool files. Using Lisp_Objects with minimal tagbits. uname -a: HP-UX accad1 A.09.05 A 9000/735 2005266055 two-user license ./configure 'hppa1.1-hp-hpux9.05' '--dynamic=yes' '--prefix=/usr/local' '--with-dialogs=athena' '--with-xface' '--with-tty=yes' '--site-includes=/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/hppa1.1-hp-hpux9.05/2.8.1/include /usr/local/canna/include' '--error-checking=none' '--with-jpeg' '--with-xpm' '--with-sound=no' '--with-mule' '--with-canna' '--with-xfs' '--with-database=no' '--with-x' '--cflags=-pipe -mpa-risc-1-1 -mschedule=7100 -mjump-in-delay -funroll-loops -O5' '--package-path=/usr/local/lib/xemacspack' '--with-dragndrop=no' XEmacs 21.0-b41 "San Clemente" configured for `hppa1.1-hp-hpux9.05'. Where should the build process find the source code? /users4/toge/HPUX/XEmacs210/xemacs-21.0-b39 What installation prefix should install use? /usr/local What operating system and machine description files should XEmacs use? `s/hpux9-shr.h' and `m/hp800.h' What compiler should XEmacs be built with? gcc -pipe -mpa-risc-1-1 -mschedule=7100 -mjump-in-delay -funroll-loops -O5 Should XEmacs use the GNU version of malloc? yes Should XEmacs use the relocating allocator for buffers? yes What window system should XEmacs use? x11 Where do we find X Windows header files? /usr/include/Motif1.2 /usr/local/X11R6/include Where do we find X Windows libraries? /usr/lib/Motif1.2 /usr/lib/X11R6 Additional header files: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/hppa1.1-hp-hpux9.05/2.8.1/include /usr/local/canna/include Compiling in support for XAUTH. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Compiling in support for JPEG image conversion. Compiling in support for PNG image conversion. Compiling in support for TIFF image conversion. Compiling in Mule (multi-lingual) support. Compiling in XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method) support. Using Motif to provide XIM support. Compiling in support for Canna on Mule. Compiling in support for proper session-management. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Compiling in DLL support. movemail will use "dot-locking" for locking mail spool files. Compiling in extra code for debugging. Compiling in code for checking XEmacs memory usage. uname -a: Linux ptaro.kek.jp 2.1.24 #122 Thu Apr 9 10:27:39 EST 1998 ppc unknown ./configure '--cflags=-g -O2 -fsigned-char' '--dynamic=yes' '--error-checking=none' '--debug=no' '--with-dialogs=athena' '--with-site-lisp' '--prefix=/usr' '--with-xfs' '--with-canna' '--with-mule' '--package-path=/usr/lib/xemacspack' '--with-x' XEmacs 21.0-b41 "San Clemente" configured for `powerpc-unknown-linux'. Where should the build process find the source code? /home/toge/BUILD/xemacs-21.0-b40 What installation prefix should install use? /usr What operating system and machine description files should XEmacs use? `s/linux.h' and `m/powerpc.h' What compiler should XEmacs be built with? gcc -g -O2 -fsigned-char Should XEmacs use the GNU version of malloc? yes Should XEmacs use the relocating allocator for buffers? yes What window system should XEmacs use? x11 Where do we find X Windows header files? /usr/X11/include Where do we find X Windows libraries? /usr/X11/lib Compiling in support for XAUTH. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Compiling in support for JPEG image conversion. Compiling in support for PNG image conversion. Compiling in support for TIFF image conversion. Compiling in native sound support. Compiling in support for Berkeley DB. Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Compiling in Mule (multi-lingual) support. Compiling in XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method) support. Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. Using XFontSet to provide bilingual menubar. Compiling in support for Canna on Mule. Compiling in support for OffiX. Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop ( OffiX ). Compiling in support for proper session-management. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Compiling in DLL support. movemail will use "dot-locking" for locking mail spool files.

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Re: custom-file 26 years, 10 months

SL Baur

Didier Verna <verna(a)inf.enst.fr> writes: > Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> writes: >> THIS WAS IN 20.4!!! > All right. I hadn't noticed that. If I'd knew this, I'd have probably done > something. Hrvoje's patch reenables the deadly sin of modifying the User's .emacs, it does not change the behavior that if `custom-file' has been changed from the default it will not be loaded by XEmacs at startup. We're really going to have to fix this sometime. Writing into .emacs is suboptimal. As people start to adopt ~/.xemacs/ to put personal lisp packages in maybe it will be feasible to make a migration.

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[Success] XEmacs 21.0-b41 on Linux 26 years, 10 months

Kazuyoshi Furutaka

[i686-GNU-linux] Source : patched up from 21.0 beta40 Patch : patch 2.4 Make : GNU Make version 3.76.1 CC : pgcc-2.90.27 980315 (egcs-1.0.2 release) OS : Linux 2.0.34pre16 (RedHat 5.0) X : X11R6.3 (Accelerated-X ver.4.1 w/ XFree86 3.3.1) gdb : GDB 4.16 [alpha-GNU-linux] Source : patched up from 21.0 beta40 Patch : Patch version 2.1 Make : GNU Make version 3.75 CC : egcs-2.90.23 980102 (egcs-1.0.1 release) OS : Linux 2.1.89 (StataboWare) X : X11R6.3 (XFree86 3.3.2) gdb : GDB 4.16 -- Kazuyoshi Furutaka furutaka(a)tokai.pnc.go.jp furutaka(a)jb3.so-net.ne.jp

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Re: 21.0 beta41, cygwin32, ~init-file-user doesn't work. 26 years, 10 months

SL Baur

Darryl Okahata <darrylo(a)sr.hp.com> writes: > Well, would the following patch help? I submitted it back in > March, but it never made it into the source tree (and I didn't get any > feedback why it was bad). I have the original patch still ticked, btw. I responded at the time: sb> I haven't had time to look this over. If it is fixing the way XEmacs sb> treats "~/" specially in the package path it needs to be deferred past sb> integration of the package path cleanup (which won't be in b31). I'd recommend [re]submitting it to xemacs-patches. It looks like it could be O.K. but it probably should be tested first.

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