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Vladimir G. Ivanovic

[See xemacs info, node 3.3, "Startup Paths::How XEmacs finds Directories and Files"] The documentation says that $HOME/.xemacs/xemacs-packages is searched for libraries, but experimentation ('M-x load-library RET <library>' where <library> only exists in $HOME/.xemacs/xemacs-packages) with "xemacs --vanilla" shows that it is not. Which is correct, the docs or the program? Also, where ever the info files mention '<root>/lib/' or '$prefix/lib/' that should (at least) be changed to '<root>/share/' or '$prefix/share', right? --- Vladimir -- Vladimir G. Ivanovic _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://calypso.tux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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Fwd: sign off on XEmacs 21.5 15 years, 9 months

SL Baur

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> Date: Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 10:30 AM Subject: Re: sign off on XEmacs 21.5 To: Michael Sperber <sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> Cc: XEmacs review <xemacs-review(a)xemacs.org> On 8/18/07, Michael Sperber <sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> wrote: > For me: Slightly polishing Xft support, and fixing a few bugs on my > list, which I'm working on. I totally agree with Stephen's list as a > list of medium-term goals, but I don't think they're necessary. There's > a couple more of nice-to-have, but, once again, not necessary for me. Thank you Michael. Now the rest of you? There are hungry young minds in Africa, now armed with their OLPCs waiting for a proper editor and a proper project to learn programming from. Dig deep, into your hearts, into your pocket books and give ... give them the gift of a new release of XEmacs. Children are our most precious resource and always remember that a mind is a terrible thing to waste on something like FSF Emacs 22 or vim. Thank you for your support. -sb (RIP alt.religion.emacs, I wish Usenet hadn't been ruined by SPAM) _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://calypso.tux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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XEmacs Packages have been pre-released (2008-07-14-09) 15 years, 9 months

Norbert Koch

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey there everyone. I have just added the following packages to the 'Pre-Releases' directory: New Packages in Pre-Release: =========================== calendar-1.37-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none games-1.18-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.04 x-symbol-1.11-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.5.1 Previously Announced Packages Still in Pre-Release: ================================================== apel-1.33-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 10.6 auctex-1.48-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 11.55 cedet-common-1.01-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.0pre4 dired-1.19-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 7.16 easypg-1.02-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.0.16 ediff-1.75-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.75 edit-utils-2.40-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none edt-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none efs-1.34-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.24 eieio-1.06-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.0pre4 elib-1.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.0 eshell-1.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.4.1 eudc-1.40-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.32 fsf-compat-1.17-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none general-docs-1.05-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none gnus-1.93-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.10.8 guided-tour-0.52-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none hm--html-menus-1.24-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.9 hyperbole-1.17-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 5.0 igrep-1.16-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.111 latin-euro-standards-1.08-pkg.ta upstream version: 1.08 leim-1.27-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none locale-1.27-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none mh-e-1.31-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 7.4.2 mule-base-1.52-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none mule-ucs-1.16-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.84 net-utils-1.56-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: N/A oo-browser-1.05-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.08 os-utils-1.41-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none pcl-cvs-1.68-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: R-2_9_9 pcomplete-1.05-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.1.6 perl-modes-1.14-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none prog-modes-2.16-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none ps-print-1.12-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 6.5.6 psgml-1.45-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.3.2 python-modes-1.10-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 426 scheme-1.17-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none sh-script-1.24-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.0f skk-1.24-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 10.62a speedbar-1.29-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 1.0pre4 text-modes-1.95-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none tm-1.39-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none tramp-1.40-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.0.56 vc-1.45-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none viper-1.63-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 3.09 vm-8.03-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 8.0.10-devo w3-1.34-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.0pre47 xemacs-base-2.17-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none xemacs-devel-1.78-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none xetla-1.02-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: steve(a)eicq.org--2005/xetla--main--1.1--version-0 Detailed Changes: ================ - ------- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/calendar/ChangeLog ------- 2008-07-14 Norbert Koch <viteno(a)xemacs.org> * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.37 released. 2007-12-24 Aidan Kehoe <kehoea(a)parhasard.net> * cal-french.el (french-calendar-accents): Diacritical marks are always available under XEmacs. - ------- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/games/ChangeLog ------- 2008-07-14 Norbert Koch <viteno(a)xemacs.org> * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.18 released. 2008-07-13 Aidan Kehoe <kehoea(a)parhasard.net> * gamegrid.el: * gamegrid.el (put-display-table): New. * gamegrid.el (get-display-table): New. Provide with #'defun-when-void, so as to not override the 21.5 implementation. * gamegrid.el (gamegrid-setup-default-font): * gamegrid.el (gamegrid-initialize-display): Use #'put-display-table, #'get-display-table instead of #'aset, #'aref. - ------- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/x-symbol/ChangeLog ------- 2008-07-14 Norbert Koch <viteno(a)xemacs.org> * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.11 released. 2008-07-13 Aidan Kehoe <kehoea(a)parhasard.net> * lisp/x-symbol-nomule.el: * lisp/x-symbol-nomule.el (put-display-table): New. * lisp/x-symbol-nomule.el (get-display-table): New. * lisp/x-symbol.el (put-display-table): New. Provide with #'defun-when-void, so as not to override the 21.5 implementation. * lisp/x-symbol-nomule.el (x-symbol-nomule-display-table): * lisp/x-symbol.el (x-symbol-invisible-display-table): Use #'put-display-table, #'get-display-table instead #'aset, #'aref. Installing These: ================ Manually: - -------- 1) Download the packages that you want to install from: /ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/beta/experimental/packages/ 2) Unpack them to: [1] /usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/ 3) Re-start XEmacs. Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.[245].x): - ---------------------------------------------- 1) Tools -> Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases 2) Tools -> Packages -> List and Install 3) Select the packages you wish to install (there are brief instructions at the bottom of the packages buffer). 4) Packages -> Install/Remove Selected 5) Re-start XEmacs. Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.1.14): - ------------------------------------------- 1) Options -> Manage Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases 2) Options -> Manage Packages -> List and Install 3 - 5) As per XEmacs 21.[245].x. norbert - XEmacs Package Release Manager. Footnotes: [1] Note: Mule packages should be installed into: /usr/local/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFIewIlgu3ywdHdhM0RAodRAJ95pnR/Jr1FyxhtD6GmerixQavg1ACfcr04 tbzRXpYpFq6m+sfL5upycpw= =UOvv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://calypso.tux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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Re: Xemacs backs up mail despite auto-save-default nil 15 years, 9 months

Adrian Aichner

The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to comp.emacs.xemacs as well. chengiz(a)my-deja.com writes: > On Jul 11, 12:32 pm, "Adrian Aichner" <adr...(a)xemacs.org> wrote: >> Hmmh, perhaps your version of sendmail.el is not honoring auto-save-default? >> >> Do you also have following lines in >> >> (defun mail (&optional noerase to subject in-reply-to cc replybuffer actions) >> >> (setq default-directory (expand-file-name "~/")) >> (auto-save-mode auto-save-default) >> (mail-mode) >> (mail-setup to subject in-reply-to cc replybuffer actions) >> >> Either >> M-x find-function RET mail RET >> or >> M-x find-library RET sendmail RET >> should get you to the source code. >> >> Also check for warnings that sendmail.el is newer than sendmail.elc. >> >> In that case what gets executed might not be what you see in sendmail.el >> >> Also try >> >> M-x list-load-path-shadows >> to see where you get your sendmail library from. > > Adrian, > Thanks. I found the following lines in sendmail.el. > ;; put mail auto-save files in home dir instead of > ;; scattering them around the file system. > (setq default-directory (or mail-dir (expand-file-name "~/"))) > (auto-save-mode auto-save-default) > (mail-mode) > (mail-setup to subject in-reply-to cc replybuffer actions) > (if (and buffer-auto-save-file-name > (file-exists-p buffer-auto-save-file-name)) > (message "Auto save file for draft message exists; consider M-x > mail-recover")) > t))) > > I dont get any warnings about sendmail. The shadow command says: > No Emacs Lisp load-path shadowings were found > > Now auto-save-mode apropos says "Toggle auto-saving of contents of > current buffer. With prefix argument ARG, turn auto-saving on if > positive, else off." So wouldnt that point to that auto-save-mode line > in there as the culprit? In fact in another file buffer, I tried these > lines (hitting C-u C-x C-e after each one) which suggests the same > thing. > buffer-auto-save-file-name > nil > (auto-save-mode auto-save-default) > buffer-auto-save-file-name > "/home/chengiz/tmp/#temp#" > > Seems like a bug in sendmail.el. Hi again, chengiz! My analysis indicates that both, function auto-save-mode and variable auto-save-default are overloaded and under-documented. Furthermore sendmail.el in GNU Emacs has different code to handle auto-save-mode more defensively: ;; Only call auto-save-mode if necessary, to avoid changing auto-save file. (if (or (and auto-save-default (not buffer-auto-save-file-name)) (and (not auto-save-default) buffer-auto-save-file-name)) (auto-save-mode auto-save-default)) The XEmacs lisp packages code base shows that different idioms are being used by various authors. As a workaround for now, chengiz, you can try using (setq auto-save-default 0) on a mail-mode hook to turn it off in *mail* buffers, if that is what you want. I'm copying xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org, where better ideas may come from. -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/ _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://calypso.tux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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Re: Xft 15 years, 9 months

The XEmacs Package Smoketest

>>>>> Stephen wrote: Stephen> I really don't think those are going to be much help. Stephen> Agreed, autoconf is a really crufty technology from the point Stephen> of view of a build system, but its database of platform Stephen> quirks is still unmatched AFAIK. So it is unlikely we would change build system then due to the loss of support for all the different platforms? I guess our time then is best used to get autoconf working for Xft. Could you please give a pointer to what the problem was with getting it right? It would make it easier to help out (Huh... mabe this is in the tracker and I haven't looked there yet.) Yours -- %% Mats _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://calypso.tux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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./configure and package-path 15 years, 9 months

Vladimir G. Ivanovic

Running just ./configure produces an executable that doesn't look for XEmacs packages in $prefix/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages. The package documentation at http://www.xemacs.org/Documentation/packageGuide.html#Package_hierarchies says that it should. (I haven't tried the equivalent experiment for Mule packages.) Which is the desired behavior? I think that the latter behavior is more intuitive, and so configure should be fixed. Regardless, I need to file a bug, one way or the other. --- Vladimir -- Vladimir G. Ivanovic _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://calypso.tux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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issues shown as "no priority set" 15 years, 9 months

Vladimir G. Ivanovic

OK, I don't get it. What criteria puts an issue in the "no priority set" list? Some *do* have a priority set, e.g. #374, but show up in the "no priority set" list when I select "Show Open". Many are missing an entry in the Classification section, but issue #2, for instance, is in the "no priority set" list and has all classifications fields set. Is there rhyme or reason here? --- Vladimir -- Vladimir G. Ivanovic _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://calypso.tux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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Could you please ship the color-theme package with XEmacs? 15 years, 9 months

Jason Spiro

Hi, Thank you for all your work on XEmacs - it's the most powerful text editor there is. Could you please ship the color-theme[1] package with XEmacs base, or at least as an XEmacs auxiliary package? It is a fairly popular XEmacs add-on; I know this because it is even in the Gentoo portage system[2]. ^ [1]. http://cvs.gna.org/cvsweb/color-theme/?cvsroot=color-theme ^ [2]. http://www.gentoo-portage.com/app-emacs/color-theme Thanks, Jason Spiro _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://calypso.tux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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Re: Cannot build packages with latest 21.5 15 years, 9 months

Aidan Kehoe

Ar an deichiú lá de mí Iúil, scríobh Vin Shelton: > Aidan, > > One of your commits from today broke the package build. It looks like > something to do with X initialization is causing a problem. Thanks, Vin, I should get to this late this evening. -- ¿Dónde estará ahora mi sobrino Yoghurtu Nghé, que tuvo que huir precipitadamente de la aldea por culpa de la escasez de rinocerontes? _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://calypso.tux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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Re: [AC eshell] mswindows eshell pccomplete and the special backslash 15 years, 9 months

It's me FKtPp ;)

Thank you for approve :P --- "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen(a)xemacs.org> wrote: > APPROVE COMMIT eshell > > Per Aidan's approval. Somehow ;-) the ChangeLog went missing, > provided here. Kai, please check that I've got it right. > Yes, right. > Kai, would you like to be maintainer of the XEmacs package for > eshell, since John isn't doing it? I'd like to :P > Among other things, I see that > you > are probably using an upstream version since the directory structure > implied by your patch differs from my CVS checkout. Becoming > maintainer would allow you to freely reorganize the package's > structure to match upstream, approve your own commits, etc. > Sorry for confusing you. I do using the XEmacs distributed experimental version. I did the patch in a installed instance of XEmacs package, that why it looks strange. In fact it is in my .xemacs directory. > In return we'd expect you to follow upstream development (eg, a cvs > update every month or so), and to communicate any improvements you > develop back to John and the Emacs developers. > > [John, this is just a courtesy copy to introduce a possible > co-developer, Fan Kai, and provide a ChangeLog. AFAIK Kai has not > contributed to Emacs before so this is presumably a "tiny" change > with > no need for an assignment.] > > Index: xemacs-packages/eshell/ChangeLog > =================================================================== > RCS file: > /pack/xemacscvs/XEmacs/packages/xemacs-packages/eshell/ChangeLog,v > retrieving revision 1.32 > diff -u -U0 -r1.32 ChangeLog > --- xemacs-packages/eshell/ChangeLog 10 Jul 2008 18:58:46 -0000 1.32 > +++ xemacs-packages/eshell/ChangeLog 10 Jul 2008 19:49:10 -0000 > ＠＠ -0,0 +1,5 ＠＠ > +2008-07-08 Fan Kai <fktpp(a)xemacs.org> > + > + * esh-arg.el (eshell-quote-backslash): Fix eshell path completion > + for Windows. > + > > Index: xemacs-packages/eshell/esh-arg.el > =================================================================== > RCS file: > /pack/xemacscvs/XEmacs/packages/xemacs-packages/eshell/esh-arg.el,v > retrieving revision 1.1 > diff -u -U0 -r1.1 esh-arg.el > --- xemacs-packages/eshell/esh-arg.el 10 Jan 2001 02:52:52 -0000 1.1 > +++ xemacs-packages/eshell/esh-arg.el 10 Jul 2008 19:49:15 -0000 > ＠＠ -283 +283,5 ＠＠ > - (if (eq char ?\\) > + (if (and (eq char ?\\) > + (not (and (featurep 'mswindows) > + (eq directory-sep-char ?\\) > + (eq (1- (string-width string)) > + index)))) > > > _______________________________________________ > XEmacs-Beta mailing list > XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org > http://calypso.tux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta > _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://calypso.tux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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