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Re: (require 'bbdb) mad at me 25 years, 6 months

Colin Rafferty

Also, please apply this patch to bbdb.el. --- bbdb.el~ Fri Oct 23 09:04:10 1998 +++ bbdb.el Mon Oct 26 10:53:00 1998 ＠＠ -2873,8 +2873,6 ＠＠ (if (not (fboundp 'add-hook)) (fset 'add-hook 'bbdb-add-hook)) -(run-hooks 'bbdb-load-hook) - (defun bbdb-insinuate-sendmail () "Call this function to hook BBDB into sendmail (that is, M-x mail)." (define-key mail-mode-map "\M-\t" 'bbdb-complete-name) ＠＠ -2882,6 +2880,8 ＠＠ (provide 'bbdb) ; provide before loading things which might require + +(run-hooks 'bbdb-load-hook) (defmacro safe-require (thing) (list 'condition-case nil (list 'require thing) '(file-error nil)))

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Re: (require 'bbdb) mad at me 25 years, 6 months

Colin Rafferty

John- Please apply this patch, recompile (or delete bbdb-com.elc), and restart. If the patch doesn't apply, just move the (provide) statement from the bottom to the top (before "require 'bbdb)". --- bbdb-com.el~ Tue Oct 13 15:43:39 1998 +++ bbdb-com.el Mon Oct 26 09:55:09 1998 ＠＠ -63,6 +63,8 ＠＠ ;; ;; +(provide 'bbdb-com) + (require 'bbdb) (defmacro bbdb-grovel-elide-arg (arg) ＠＠ -2287,5 +2289,3 ＠＠ (string-lessp emacs-version "19")) ; v19 has history built in (mapcar 'gmhist-make-magic '(bbdb bbdb-name bbdb-company bbdb-net bbdb-changed))) - -(provide 'bbdb-com) ;; Colin

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Re: how does ballon-help work under X? 25 years, 6 months

Hrvoje Niksic

Andy Piper <andyp(a)parallax.co.uk> writes: > At 10:35 26/10/98 +0100, Hrvoje Niksic wrote: > >Andy Piper <andyp(a)parallax.co.uk> writes: > > > >> Balloon help for toolbars works ..... > > > >Does it work for multi-line tooltips, such as VM is using? > > Depends how you define "work". OK. "Work" means that the multi-line tooltip is shown in several lines, like this: ------------------- | some tooltip text | | second line | ------------------- rather than: --------------------------------- | some tooltip text X second line | --------------------------------- Where X is some bogus char or glyph. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- You know it's going to be a bad day when your twin brother forgot your birthday.

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Re: how does ballon-help work under X? 25 years, 6 months

Hrvoje Niksic

Kyle Jones <kyle_jones(a)wonderworks.com> writes: > I don't understnad the resistance to the existing balloon help. Extremely slow for me, even under X, even on ultrasparc. Also, the borders and decorations are wrongly drawn with many window managers. Does balloon-help.el really look and feel well for you? > Presumably if the Windows port was done properly, balloon-help.el > should just work. That's also true. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth

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Re: how does ballon-help work under X? 25 years, 6 months

Hrvoje Niksic

Andy Piper <andyp(a)parallax.co.uk> writes: > Balloon help for toolbars works ..... Does it work for multi-line tooltips, such as VM is using? -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- - Now what did we learn from this? - I learned what my liver looks like!

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Re: how does ballon-help work under X? 25 years, 6 months

Hrvoje Niksic

Andy Piper <andyp(a)parallax.co.uk> writes: > >Kyle disagrees because she thinks it is useless to have to > >reimplement the various stuff the frame code does, such as > >placement of images and I18N chars in balloon help, which is > >currently possible under X. I see her point, but I think we should > >remove the images support from balloon help rather than keep the > >frame-based implementation (the system tooltips look so much > >nicer). > > They are also inordinately easy to implement under mswindows. Not if you want to have the ability to attach glyphs and extents to tooltip strings. > > But Kyle is the maintainer, and > >I didn't press on that. > > I'll stop hacking. However, I don't think the frame-based solution > is ok for mswindows, given that it has its own tooltip support. So do I. The "clean" solution that I envisioned would use tooltips under windows, and perhaps fall back to Lisp under X. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- When a girl can read the handwriting on the wall, she may be in the wrong rest room.

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Re: An oxymoron: Reset face and Custom 25 years, 6 months

Jan Vroonhof

"Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull(a)sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> writes: > This works, so far with no effects (besides cleaning up both the > blanching and the ugly kanji problems) that I can see. I've played > with the options menu and Custom only a little bit though, and can't > claim anything like an exhaustive test. > > I will submit a patch later (the machine I was working on is > off-line). Nice. I would say we could leave it at that for 21.0 if we cannot find a proper solution for the general case quickly. > about it (only a little bit, though), I am very, very unhappy that > anything in Custom _ever_ calls `reset-face'.[1] Basically what you're > Footnotes: > [1] I put it that way because I haven't tracked down where it's > called. It is called it face-spec-set which called again in custom-set-face-update-spec and custom-set-faces. > __________________________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________________ > What are those two straight lines for? "Free software rules." :-) Jan

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Re: (require 'bbdb) mad at me 25 years, 6 months

Adrian Aichner

>>>>> "John" == John A Martin <jam(a)jamux.com> writes: John> Thank you for your prompt response. >>>>> "APA" == Adrian Aichner >>>>> "Re: (require 'bbdb) mad at me" >>>>> 25 Oct 1998 10:57:08 +0100 John> In XEmacs 21.0 "Pyrenean-pre6" [Lucid] (i486-pc-linux) of John> Fri Oct 16 1998 on athene.jamux.com configured using John> `configure '--cflags=-m486 -O2 -fno-strength-reduce John> -fomit-frame-pointer' --debug=yes --gung-ho --with-sound=no John> --with-mule=no --use-union-type=yes John> --lockdir=/var/lock/xemacs --prefix=/usr' APA> John, are you (require[ing] 'bbdb) in order to use it within APA> XEmacs? APA> Your mail does not specify the bbdb-version (mine, e.g., is APA> "2.00.02") you are using. John> Sorry, everything was the latest, bbdb-1.06-pkg.tar.gz, John> tm-1.15-pkg.tar.gz and installed when building XEmacs. Send Same here for both bbdb and tm. John> Bug Report seems not use MIME although tm was alive and well John> in the XEmacs that sent the message. APA> Assuming 2.x, the right thing to do in .emacs or APA> .../lisp/site-start.el is something like this: APA> (bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message 'sc 'sendmail 'w3) John> Both bbdb.info and my .../xemacs-packages/lisp/bbdb/INSTALL John> give John> (require 'bbdb) * (bbdb-initialize) * Hmmh, I don't use (require 'bbdb) in my setup and all is well. I just put it in my site-start.el just before (bbdb-initialize ...) and XEmacs still comes up fine and I can query BBDB entries. John> and when I tried (bbdb-initialize) alone it failed with the John> same John> Lisp nesting exceeds `max-lisp-eval-depth' My setting: max-lisp-eval-depth 500 which supposedly is the standard-value. John> with or without listing the supported programs[1]. APA> You'll have to adjust the argument-list to include packages APA> you want insinuated by BBDB. APA> Make sure to comment all bbdb-related autoloads you may have APA> in .emacs or .../lisp/site-start.el from times past. John> Was done. Perhaps it was not evident from the stuff in the John> bug report that (require 'bbdb) was executed from a scratch John> buffer in an XEmacs started with --vanilla. After "Lisp John> nesting exceeds `max-lisp-eval-depth'" that XEmacs was John> crippled (responded to Send Bug Report and other mail John> commands with "Lisp nesting exceeds `max-lisp-eval-depth'"). John> I wrote the backtrace to a file and imported it into a Send John> Bug Report buffer in another XEmacs and cut and pasted the John> lossage. John> I cannot get a functional XEmacs when bbdb is initialized John> from my .emacs[2], I get an otherwise working XEmacs without John> references to bbdb in .emacs. APA> Then you're ready to M-x customize-group RET bbdb RET and APA> save your customizations. John> Hmm... All that left me with is John> (custom-set-variables) (custom-set-faces) John> in a new ~/.emacs after starting with -vanilla. APA> HTH, John> Well, you induced me to wade through a lot of customize John> hokus pokus. That was educational. :-) However, I failed to John> dope out how to enter something like the following into Bbdb John> Auto Notes Alist what with all the protect you from yourself John> stuff John> Thank you for your suggestions but I am no closer to having John> bbdb working. Perhaps I'm missing a lot, but I don't see John> what's hindering it if it isn't related to the failures to John> load stuff that gives the "Lisp nesting exceeds John> `max-lisp-eval-depth'" error. John> Footnotes: [1] I dunno if it is pertinent but it seems that John> of the 19 .el files (apart from _pkg.el) in the bbdb John> directory only the 4 _without_ `(require 'bbdb)' byte John> compile. I also noticed complaints about tm-bbdb until I John> re-bite compiled it. I think the complaints were to the John> effect that it had been compiled for xemacs-20. Do you have any lisp package shadowing? Do you have an old version of bbdb lurking somewhere? What does M-x locate-library RET bbdb RET give you? I get: (locate-library "bbdb") "c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\packages\\lisp\\bbdb\\bbdb.elc" John> [2] Actually I have been using 'xemacs -vanilla -l John> ~/.emacs.new' while I continue to run an old reliable XEmacs John> with only old fashioned customization and from before John> packages. John> jam

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Re: Notice of commit by steveb in XEmacs/xemacs-packages/prog/vc 25 years, 6 months

SL Baur

[Cc'ed to xemacs-beta] I was hoping someone was going to ask me about this ... :-) Remek Trzaska <remek(a)npac.syr.edu> writes: >>>>>> "CVS" == CVS Monitor <cvs-monitor(a)camelot-soft.com> writes: CVS> Commit done by steveb CVS> Fri Oct 23 05:37:20 PDT 1998 > ^^^^^^^^ > Is this so late or so early? :-) That timestamp isn't right, or at least the `PDT' isn't right. The commit was done about 11pm local time. It must be GMT with an erroneous `PDT' timezone label. CVS> Modified Files: CVS> ChangeLog vc-hooks.el CVS> Log Message: CVS> Panic! > ^^^^^^ > What's happened here and in the three other packages you committed > tonight/this morning? I had to get my computer out of the office it is temporarily staying in, in a hurry Thursday night. At the time I didn't know when or how long it would take to get reconnected, so I panic synched everything on Altair not committed to cvs.xemacs.org. > PS. Welcome back to life! Thanks. It feels good to be attached to a real wire again even if it's only going to be for a few days -- I'm back off-line again on or before the 31st.

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Re: (require 'bbdb) mad at me 25 years, 6 months

Adrian Aichner

>>>>> "John" == John A Martin <jam(a)jamux.com> writes: John> This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, John> not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, John> because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to John> read other languages for them. John> In XEmacs 21.0 "Pyrenean-pre6" [Lucid] (i486-pc-linux) of John> Fri Oct 16 1998 on athene.jamux.com configured using John> `configure '--cflags=-m486 -O2 -fno-strength-reduce John> -fomit-frame-pointer' --debug=yes --gung-ho --with-sound=no John> --with-mule=no --use-union-type=yes John> --lockdir=/var/lock/xemacs --prefix=/usr' John> Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and John> the precise symptoms of the bug: John> (require 'bbdb) Hello John, it seems Help Send Bug Report... works now :-) although the initial paragraph seems somewhat strange, since it is presented completely out-of-context. I think `report-emacs-bug' should identify itself in the message it creates. Anyway... John, are you (require[ing] 'bbdb) in order to use it within XEmacs? Your mail does not specify the bbdb-version (mine, e.g., is "2.00.02") you are using. Assuming 2.x, the right thing to do in .emacs or .../lisp/site-start.el is something like this: (bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message 'sc 'sendmail 'w3) You'll have to adjust the argument-list to include packages you want insinuated by BBDB. Make sure to comment all bbdb-related autoloads you may have in .emacs or .../lisp/site-start.el from times past. Then you're ready to M-x customize-group RET bbdb RET and save your customizations. HTH, Adrian

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