Cannot check out packages
13 years, 6 months
Vin Shelton
Greetings -
I cannot access the package hierarchy in CVS:
cvs -z3 -d :pserver:anonymous＠cvs.alioth.debian.org:/cvsroot/xemacs
checkout packages
cvs [checkout aborted]: connect to
cvs.alioth.debian.org(217.196.43.134):2401 failed: Connection timed
out
Does anyone know what the problem is?
Thanks,
Vin
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[Bug: 21.5-b29] packages UI: non-ideal handling of missing deps
13 years, 6 months
Samuel Bronson
================================================================
Dear Bug Team!
I've been running into a lot of those "Cannot open load file: "
messages. I've just realized that this is probably because the package
management UI does not check dependancies unless explicitly requested
to do so; it would probably be a good idea to have an option
(defaulting to on) to have it do this automatically at the beginning
of `pui-install-selected-packages' (aka "x"). If the check fails, the
user should probably have a choice between "include dependancies",
"ignore dependancies", and "cancel".
Also, having realized this, I tried to fix it with just
`pui-add-required-packages', but that refused to do anything unless I
selected at least one package first; perhaps this check should be
removed?
Of course, I'm a bit of an XEmacs newbie, so maybe I'm coming at this
all wrong, but even so I'm sure that improvements can be made (to help
newbies come at it from a better angle, if nothing else).
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System Info to help track down your bug:
---------------------------------------
OS version:
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
OS: Windows_NT
XEmacs 21.5-b29 "garbanzo" configured for `i586-pc-win32'.
Building XEmacs using "nmake".
Building XEmacs using make flags " ".
Building XEmacs in source tree "C:\\XEmacsBuild\\xemacs-21.5.29".
For src, using compiler "cl -nologo -W3 -DSTRICT -Zi -Od -MD -c -TP
-IC:\XEmacsBuild\xemacs-21.5.29\nt\inc
-IC:\XEmacsBuild\xemacs-21.5.29\src
-I"C:/cygwin/usr/local/src\xpm-3.4k"
-I"C:/cygwin/usr/local/src\xpm-3.4k\lib"
-I"C:/cygwin/usr/local/src\libpng-1.2.8"
-I"C:/cygwin/usr/local/src/zlib"
-I"C:/cygwin/usr/local/src/tiff-3.7.3\libtiff"
-I"C:/cygwin/usr/local/src\jpeg-6b" -I"C:/cygwin/usr/local/src/zlib"
-DHAVE_MS_WINDOWS -DHAVE_MENUBARS -DHAVE_SCROLLBARS -DHAVE_TOOLBARS
-DHAVE_WIDGETS -DHAVE_DIALOGS -DHAVE_XPM -DFOR_MSW -DHAVE_GIF
-DHAVE_PNG -DHAVE_TIFF -DHAVE_JPEG -DHAVE_ZLIB -DHAVE_NATIVE_SOUND
-DMULE -DERROR_CHECK_ALL -DPDUMP -DSYSTEM_MALLOC -DDEBUG_XEMACS
-D_DEBUG -DWIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN -DWIN32_NATIVE -Demacs
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPATH_VERSION=\"21.5-b29\"
-DPATH_PROGNAME=\"xemacs\" -DEMACS_VERSION=\"21.5-b29\"
-DEMACS_PROGNAME=\"xemacs\" -DSHEBANG_PROGNAME=\"xemacs-script\"
-DSTACK_TRACE_EYE_CATCHER=xemacs_21_5_b29_i586_pc_win32
-DPATH_PREFIX=\""C:/XEmacsBuild/installed/XEmacs-21.5.29"\"
-DEMACS_MAJOR_VERSION=21 -DEMACS_MINOR_VERSION=5
-DEMACS_BETA_VERSION=29 -DXEMACS_CODENAME=\""garbanzo"\"
-DXEMACS_EXTRA_NAME=\"""\" -DEMACS_CONFIGURATION=\"i586-pc-win32\"".
For lib-src, using compiler "cl -nologo -W3 -DSTRICT -Zi -Od -MD
-IC:\XEmacsBuild\xemacs-21.5.29\lib-src
-IC:\XEmacsBuild\xemacs-21.5.29\src -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DWIN32_NATIVE".
Compiling as C++.
Installing XEmacs in "C:/XEmacsBuild/installed/XEmacs-21.5.29".
Compiling in support for Microsoft Windows native GUI.
Compiling in international (MULE) support.
Compiling in support for XPM images.
Compiling in support for GIF images.
Compiling in support for PNG images.
Compiling in support for TIFF images.
Compiling in support for JPEG images.
Compiling in support for GZIP compression/decompression.
Compiling in support for toolbars.
Compiling in support for dialogs.
Compiling in support for widgets.
Compiling in support for native sounds.
Using portable dumper.
Using system malloc.
Using DLL version of C runtime library.
Compiling in extra internal error-checking.
NOTE: ---------------------------------------------------------
NOTE: Compiling in support for runtime error-checking.
NOTE: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result.
NOTE: Error-checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases.
NOTE: ---------------------------------------------------------
Compiling in debugging support (no slowdown).
Load-Path Lisp Shadows:
----------------------
(e:\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\xemacs-base\regexp-opt
e:\XEmacs\XEmacs-21.5.29\lisp\regexp-opt
e:\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\xemacs-base\easy-mmode
e:\XEmacs\XEmacs-21.5.29\lisp\easy-mmode
e:\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\build\build-report
e:\XEmacs\XEmacs-21.5.29\lisp\build-report
e:\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\apel\alist
e:\XEmacs\XEmacs-21.5.29\lisp\alist)
Internationalization Settings:
-------------------------
Environment:
Value of LC_ALL : nil
Value of LC_COLLATE : nil
Value of LC_CTYPE : nil
Value of LC_MESSAGES : nil
Value of LC_MONETARY : nil
Value of LC_NUMERIC : nil
Value of LC_TIME : nil
Value of LANG : nil
Lisp locale settings:
current-language-environment => "English"
default-buffer-file-coding-system => mswindows-multibyte-dos
default-process-coding-system => (undecided .
mswindows-multibyte-system-default)
(current-locale) => "English_United States.1252"
keyboard-coding-system => mswindows-multibyte-system-default
terminal-coding-system => mswindows-multibyte-system-default
(coding-priority-list) =>
(iso-8-1 utf-16-little-endian-bom utf-16-bom utf-8-bom iso-7
no-conversion utf-8 iso-8-2 iso-8-designate iso-lock-shift
shift-jis big5 utf-16-little-endian utf-16 ucs-4)
Coding system aliases:
'native is aliased to
mswindows-multibyte-system-default-dos
'file-name is aliased to
mswindows-multibyte-system-default
'mswindows-multibyte-system-default is not a coding system alias
Installed XEmacs Packages:
-------------------------
(xemacs-devel ver: 1.8 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver)
(xemacs-base ver: 2.27 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver)
(time ver: 1.14 upstream: 1.17)
(textools ver: 1.15 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver)
(text-modes ver: 1.98 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver)
(texinfo ver: 1.3 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver)
(speedbar ver: 1.29 upstream: 1.0pre4)
(sounds-wav ver: 1.12 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver)
(sh-script ver: 1.24 upstream: 2.0f)
(reftex ver: 1.34 upstream: 4.21)
(prog-modes ver: 2.2 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver)
(perl-modes ver: 1.14 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver)
(pc ver: 1.28 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver)
(os-utils ver: 1.41 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver)
(net-utils ver: 1.56 upstream: N/A)
(mail-lib ver: 1.8 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver)
(igrep ver: 1.16 upstream: 2.111)
(gnus ver: 1.94 upstream: 5.10.8)
(gnats ver: 1.17 upstream: 3.101)
(general-docs ver: 1.06 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver)
(fsf-compat ver: 1.19 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver)
(eieio ver: 1.07 upstream: 1.0pre4)
(efs ver: 1.34 upstream: 1.24)
(edit-utils ver: 2.43 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver)
(ediff ver: 1.81 upstream: 2.75)
(edebug ver: 1.22 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver)
(ecrypto ver: 0.21 upstream: 2.0)
(ecb ver: 1.22 upstream: 2.31)
(dired ver: 1.2 upstream: 7.17)
(dictionary ver: 1.16 upstream: 1.8)
(debug ver: 1.18 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver)
(cc-mode ver: 1.45 upstream: 5.30.10)
(c-support ver: 1.22 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver)
(build ver: 1.15 upstream: 2.02)
(auctex ver: 1.51 upstream: 11.84)
(apel ver: 1.34 upstream: 10.7)
Features:
--------
(mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail rfc822 efs-x19.15 efs-fnh
efs-ovwrt efs-netrc efs-defun comint ring efs efs-dump efs-cu
package-ui package-get package-admin config lazy-lock font-lock
cus-face paren blink-paren tex-mik jka-compr xemacs-devel-autoloads
xemacs-base-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads
text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads speedbar-autoloads
sounds-wav-autoloads sh-script-autoloads reftex-autoloads
prog-modes-autoloads perl-modes-autoloads pc-autoloads
os-utils-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads
igrep-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads general-docs-autoloads
fsf-compat-autoloads eieio-autoloads efs-autoloads
edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads
ecrypto-autoloads ecb-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads
debug-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads
tex-site auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads mule-autoloads auto-autoloads
auto-show fontl-hooks canna-leim tibetan slovenian czech romanian lao
devanagari indian cyrillic code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items
x-menubar dragdrop mode-motion mouse behavior itimer auto-save
lisp-mode easymenu easy-mmode iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete
loadhist cus-file derived newcomment rsz-minibuf env text-props frame
obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra cl cl-19 packages backquote
unicode mswindows-scrollbars mswindows toolbar native-sound scrollbar
network-streams subprocesses menu-accelerator-support menubar md5
xemacs mule gutter tiff png gif jpeg xpm xbm lisp-float-type
file-coding dde windows-nt dragdrop-api dialog devices window-system
base64)
Recent keystrokes:
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misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user
misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user
misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user
misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user
misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user
misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user
misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user
misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user
misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user
misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user
misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user
misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user
misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user
misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user
misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user r M-x r e p
o r TAB x e TAB RET
Recent messages (most recent first):
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Loading xemacsbug...done
Loading xemacsbug...
Invalid operation: No packages have been selected!
Creating package list ...
Updated package database
Got 128 package-get database entries
> /anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.gpg...done
> ＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.gpg...98% (22.7 KB/s)
> ving /anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.gpg...
Listing /anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/...done
Listing /anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/...
CWD'ing to /anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/...done
CWD'ing to /anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/...
> to /anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.gpg/...
Getting pwd...done
Getting pwd...
Logging in as user anonymous...done; MOTD of 30 lines
Logging in as user anonymous...
Opening FTP connection to ftp.xemacs.org...
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change in direction for xemacs-gtk
13 years, 6 months
Jeff Sparkes
The Gtk port of XEmacs has an FFI wrapping to make Gtk code callable from
lisp. It was designed with Gtk 1.x and I've made it work with Gtk 2.x.
The mechanism used has been removed from Gtk 3, and developers are
encouraged to use gobject introspection instead. So to fully support
Gtk 3, I'd have to replace the FFI layer. I am interested in that, but it
does distract from the goal of completed Gtk support.
I've created a branch repository, xemacs-gobject to hold ongoing FFI
integration work.
I'm stripping out the FFI from xemacs-gtk, using just C to implement it.
This means a finite amount of work
to get Gtk support finished, as well as making Gtk 3 integration much
easier. I've been working on Gtk intermittently for
a year, and I'd like to get something finished.
--
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Advice on symbol -> int mapping in C.
13 years, 6 months
Jeff Sparkes
I have a few sets of data I'd like to look up by name and get an integer
back.
I've been using alists because they're convenient and easy to look at for
debugging.
I've just created a list of gtk-cursor-names with 77 values. Should I think
about using
a hash table? The values aren't looked up very often. And luckily a
default hash
table does what I want; calling make-hash-table with keywords from C appears
scary.
The is really more of a style question than an efficiency question.
--
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remove old-eq?
13 years, 6 months
Jeff Sparkes
I was browsing the data.c, and noticed the following. Now that bytecode-19
is being removed, I guess
it should go too. It's used in things like old-assq in fn.c; guess their
time is up too.
DEFUN ("old-eq", Fold_eq, 2, 2, 0, /*
Return t if the two args are (in most cases) the same Lisp object.
Special kludge: A character is considered `old-eq' to its equivalent integer
even though they are not the same object and are in fact of different
types. This is ABSOLUTELY AND UTTERLY HORRENDOUS but is necessary to
preserve byte-code compatibility with v19. This kludge is known as the
\"char-int confoundance disease\" and appears in a number of other
functions with `old-foo' equivalents.
Do not use this function!
*/
(object1, object2))
{
/* #### blasphemy */
return HACKEQ_UNSAFE (object1, object2) ? Qt : Qnil;
}
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Re: XEmacs Carbon icons and GPLv3.
13 years, 6 months
Aidan Kehoe
Ar an t-aonú lá déag de mí Bealtaine, scríobh Mats Lidell:
> >>>>> Aidan Kehoe <kehoea(a)parhasard.net> writes:
>
> Aidan> it came up that Andrew Choi included non-default toolbar icons
>
> What do you think about creating a new set of icons just to give some
> visible changes. This would sort out the copyright issue as well.
It would, but it would involve the work of creating the icons, which is
something I’m certainly not expert at.
Simpler solution; we can use the GPLv3 icons that GNU use.
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Re: XEmacs Carbon icons and GPLv3.
13 years, 6 months
Aidan Kehoe
Ar an t-aonú lá déag de mí Bealtaine, scríobh Stephen J. Turnbull:
> Aidan Kehoe writes:
>
> > So, yeah. Given that Carbon is on its way out from Apple’s perspective
> > and that we never got the legal advice that would have meant we’d be
> > happy to go ahead with making a release of it, I’m not sure how much
> > further we should take that repository. Opinions?
>
> Personally, I think that if it's good enough for people using it now,
> we should leave it, but that further effort should be directed
> elsewhere (except for fixing reported bugs as time and expertise
> allow).
Leave it, as in continue with the repository available, or leave it, as in
continue with the merges as I’ve been doing?
> I'd like to see a Cocoa port, but apparently (cf emacs-devel traffic)
> that would be as much work to do well as Windows was. The display and
> event models of "modern" GUI systems seem designed to prevent Emacs
> from being Emacs....
Emacs was developed on a TTY, where the editor redisplay has comparatively
little control over anything. I really don’t understand why the various
non-X11 GUI implementations don’t abdicate more of redisplay in favour of
the OS; Choi’s did, and that was a fine start.
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Mycobacterium leprae, although it can be grown in the footpads of mice.”
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Re: XEmacs Carbon icons and GPLv3.
13 years, 6 months
Aidan Kehoe
Hi Kaarthik,
No, we never had a Cocoa port of XEmacs. We had a separate, earlier Carbon
port with clearer licensing, but it was never at a very usable stage and its
author, Pitts Jarvis, died.
Yes, the carbon repo contains everything from 21.5.31, and continuing to
merge trunk changes into it is unlikely to be too onerous. From my
perspective, though, it’s ultimately not a productive use of my time to
continue with it, as there’s very little prospect of its ever being
released; I can’t see *any way* that could happen, short of Choi coming
around to our way of thinking, which seems unlikely all these years later.
If you think you have the time to merge trunk changes into the Carbon
repository, you’re welcome to the job, and I’d be happy to support you in
it.
Best,
Aidan
Ar an deichiú lá de mí Bealtaine, scríobh Kaarthik Sivakumar:
> Hi Aidan
>
> I use the carbon version of xemacs and would be sad to see it go. What
> alternatives exist for xemacs on a mac? I am not keen on using an X
> version of xemacs on OSX. Was there ever a cocoa port of xemacs?
>
> With your recent merge of trunk code into carbon repo, does the carbon
> repo contain everything from 21.5.31?
>
> kaarthik
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XEmacs Packages have been pre-released (2011-05-16-13)
13 years, 6 months
Norbert Koch
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Hey there everyone.
I have just added the following packages to the 'Pre-Releases'
directory:
New Packages in Pre-Release:
===========================
prog-modes-2.25-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none
Previously Announced Packages Still in Pre-Release:
==================================================
edit-utils-2.44-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none
games-1.21-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 2.00
leim-1.32-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none
mh-e-1.33-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 7.4.2
pgg-1.08-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 0.1
text-modes-2.00-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none
x-symbol-1.13-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: 4.5.1
xemacs-base-2.30-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none
xemacs-devel-1.82-pkg.tar.gz upstream version: none
Detailed Changes:
================
- ------- ChangeLog Entries from xemacs-packages/prog-modes/ChangeLog -------
2011-05-16 Norbert Koch <viteno(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 2.25 released.
2011-05-15 Didier Verna <didier(a)xemacs.org>
From Nikodemus Siivola.
* cl-indent.el (common-lisp-indent-if*-keyword): New variable.
* cl-indent.el (common-lisp-indent-if*):
* cl-indent.el (common-lisp-indent-if*-1):
* cl-indent.el (common-lisp-indent-if*-advance-past-keyword-on-line):
New functions.
* cl-indent.el: Add an IF* common-lisp-indent-property.
* cl-indent.el (test-lisp-indent):
* cl-indent.el (run-lisp-indent-tests): New functions.
2011-05-15 Didier Verna <didier(a)xemacs.org>
* cl-indent.el (common-lisp-indent-function-1):
* cl-indent.el (lisp-lambda-list-keyword-parameter-column):
Whitespace cleanup.
2011-05-15 Didier Verna <didier(a)xemacs.org>
* cl-indent.el (lisp-indent-259): Also call
lisp-indent-lambda-list within a destructured one.
Installing These:
================
Manually:
- --------
1) Download the packages that you want to install from:
/ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/beta/experimental/packages/
2) Unpack them to: [1]
/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/
3) Re-start XEmacs.
Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.[245].x):
- ----------------------------------------------
1) Tools -> Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases
2) Tools -> Packages -> List and Install
3) Select the packages you wish to install (there are brief
instructions at the bottom of the packages buffer).
4) Packages -> Install/Remove Selected
5) Re-start XEmacs.
Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.1.14):
- -------------------------------------------
1) Options -> Manage Packages -> Add Download Site -> Pre-Releases
2) Options -> Manage Packages -> List and Install
3 - 5) As per XEmacs 21.[245].x.
Footnotes:
[1] Note: Mule packages should be installed into:
/usr/local/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/
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