Re: shell unmaintainable [Re: comint + shell still hosed]
17 years, 3 months
Jerry James
Jerry James
Please keep the discussion on the list.
"Ilya N. Golubev" <gin(a)mo.msk.ru> wrote:
>> Are you sure you have the shell.el as of 2006-06-01?
>
> It was an error in change merge. Because of continuous committing
> buggy versions in upstream, had to maintain a distinct local one.
> With `shell.el' as of 2006-06-01 fully duplicated, finding no more
> bugs. As for being able to run `comint', `shell', considering it
> closed.
I am happy to have had your help in identifying bugs in the sync, but I
don't understand why you think you have to maintain a distinct local
copy. Can't you just stick with the officially released packages? If
you are installing test packages, then you've agreed to be a tester.
And you've been a good one, so I hope you continue, but you shouldn't
feel like you are required to be a tester.
> One reason to still maintain another `shell.el' version is that is
> still has a maintainability bug. It does not `(require 'font-lock)'
> in run time, but does so in `eval-when-compile'. Already wrote that
> `font-lock' has a (IMO, mis-) feature of enabling itself on mere load,
> so there may be strong reasons not to load it. That perhaps makes no
> difference when compiling `shell.el' in batch mode, but user may need
> his own version of the file, and compile it by executing
> `byte-compile-file' interactively. In this case the undesired changes
> in his environment will occur.
>
> What is the purpose of such a `require' in `eval-when-compile'? If it
> is only to shut warnings about use of `font-lock-mode-hook', this
> variable is autoloaded, but in `auto-autoloads.el'. In this case
> should `(require 'lisp-autoloads)'.
>
> Changing `font-lock' not to enable itself on load (in all xemacs
> branches) perhaps would be even better.
Are you worried about this?
------------------------------------------------------------------------
;; Install ourselves:
(add-hook 'find-file-hooks 'font-lock-set-defaults t)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't see anything else in font-lock.el that makes an obtrusive change
to the user's environment.
As for the byte compiling issue, (require 'auto-autoloads) is not the
right thing to do, because there are lots of auto-autoloads.el files,
one per package in fact. It is true that this is just to quiet a byte
compiler warning. That may be considered a small thing by some, but I
try to get rid of such warnings whenever I touch a package. I have this
dream that, eons from now, some XEmacs developer may be able to notice
that there were 2 warnings when compiling the packages and go fix the
problem. Right now, we get so many warnings that they are nearly
worthless.
We could drop the require of font-lock and get the warning back. I'm
not terribly concerned about this, though, because (1) we distribute the
packages in precompiled form, which is good enough for the vast majority
of users; and (2) anybody who needs to compile their own due to
maintaining local variations should be sophisticated enough to deal with
a change in find-file-hooks.
--
Jerry James, Assistant Professor Jerry.James(a)usu.edu
Computer Science Department http://www.cs.usu.edu/~jerry/
Utah State University
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- 18 comments
[Bug: 21.5-b25] dired messes up DOS line-encoding handling
17 years, 9 months
Joachim Schrod
Joachim Schrod
================================================================
Dear Bug Team!
When one loads dired, and afterwards loads a text file with DOS
line-encoding (i.e., with CR-LF endings), the line-encoding is
correctly parsed, but not represented in buffer encoding state. When
the file is changed and written out again, all line-endings have been
converted to LF.
How to create the issue, with the appended file intro-dos.txt:
-- Start
xemacs -vanilla .
-- C-x C-f intro-dos.txt
-- Mode line shows Raw and not Raw:T
-- Change something, C-x C-s
-- Saved file has now LF line-endings.
As always, If I can help any further to track down the problem, I'm
willing to invest more work. But I would need your guidance where to
look -- I don't want to check the whole dired code if it messes
with coding-systems somewhere.
Best,
Joachim
PS: Sorry that I have no b27 running, but I didn't find the time to
check its stability for daily usage.
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uname -a: Linux n-pussy 2.6.13-15.8-smp #1 SMP Tue Feb 7 11:07:24 UTC 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
./configure '--prefix=/opt/xemacs' '--with-optimization' '--with-error-checking=none' '--with-ipv6-cname=no' '--with-pop' '--with-mule' '--with-athena=3d'
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- Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library.
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- 4 participants
- 4 comments
Strange delays when running remotely
17 years, 10 months
David E Sigeti
David E Sigeti
This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team,
not to your local site managers!!
Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have
translators to read other languages for them.
Please describe as succinctly as possible:
- What happened.
- What you thought should have happened.
- Precisely what you were doing at the time.
Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have.
================================================================
Dear Bug Team!
When running Xemacs version 21 remotely (displaying on my local X
server) I have found that any multicharacter kills (such as kill-line,
kill-word, kill-ring-save, etc.) are extremely slow (maybe 15-30
seconds per kill). I only see this delay when I am running over a DSL
connection where the ping times to the remote system are on the order
of 100 milliseconds or more. When my local machine is on the same LAN
as the remote machine (much shorter ping times), I do not notice any
unusual delay in multicharacter kills. I also do not see this problem
when running Xemacs version 20.
My local X server when using the DSL connection is Exceed 3D running
under Microsoft Windows 98SE. When using the LAN, my local X server
is also Exceed 3D but running under Microsoft Windows 2000.
Yours,
David
---
Dr. David E. Sigeti
Phone: 505-667-9239
E-mail: sigeti(a)lanl.gov
Surface mail: MS-F645, Los Alamos National Laboratory,
Los Alamos, NM 87545 USA
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System Info to help track down your bug:
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uname -a: IRIX64 t01 6.5 04131233 IP27
../../packages/xemacs-21.4.8/configure '--prefix=/users/sigeti/' '--exec-prefix=/users/sigeti/bin/mips-sgi-irix6.5/' '--pdump'
XEmacs 21.4.8 "Honest Recruiter" configured for `mips-sgi-irix6.5'.
Compilation / Installation:
Source code location: /users/sigeti/packages/xemacs-21.4.8
Installation prefix: /users/sigeti/
Runtime library search path: /usr/lib32/mips3:/usr/lib32
Operating system description file: `s/irix6-0.h'
Machine description file: `m/iris6d.h'
Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith
Relocating allocator for buffers: yes
GNU version of malloc: yes
Window System:
Compiling in support for the X window system:
- X Windows headers location:
- X Windows libraries location:
- Handling WM_COMMAND properly.
Using Lucid menubars.
Using Lucid scrollbars.
Using Motif dialog boxes.
Using Motif native widgets.
TTY:
Images:
Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin).
Compiling in support for XPM images.
WARNING: -----------------------------------------------------------
WARNING: Compiling without PNG image support.
Reason: PNG library version too old (pre 1.0.2)!
WARNING: You should strongly consider installing the PNG libraries.
WARNING: Otherwise certain images and glyphs may not display.
WARNING: (a copy may be found in ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/aux)
WARNING: -----------------------------------------------------------
Compiling in support for JPEG images.
Compiling in support for TIFF images.
Sound:
Compiling in support for sound (native).
Databases:
Compiling in support for Berkeley database.
Compiling in support for DBM.
Internationalization:
Mail:
Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method.
Other Features:
Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup.
Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules.
Using the new portable dumper.
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Re: [Bug: 21.4.19] balloon help niggles on Windows
17 years, 11 months
Robert Pluim
Robert Pluim
On 8/18/06, Robert Pluim <rpluim(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> 4. The balloon-help frame actually has a title. I was expecting it to
> just be a tooltippy kind of window. Perhaps it should be a dialog
> rather than a window?
>
Ok, we could fix this by removing WS_CAPTION from MSWINDOWS_POPUP_STYLE, I
think. If we wanted to, that is.
Robert
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checking for fields
17 years, 11 months
Ilya N. Golubev
Ilya N. Golubev
Emacs version: 21.4a. Merged from emacs 21 to xemacs 21.5 with the
same bug, so cross- posting there.
`beginning-of-line' (in emacs only: another inconsistency of the
merge), `forward-paragraph' and many other commands by default refuse
to move across field boundaries. It is not even stated so in their
docstings, for `forward-paragraph' at least.
Other commands on top of them are also affected by that, and in an
obscure way. Viper vi state `f' command operate within paragraph
boundary as determined by `forward-paragraph' (which is also not
documented), and if the boundary is before the end of line due to
fields, then characters on that line are not found as expected.
It actually happens with default settings of `shell-mode', if point is
in shell prompt and character to find is in command being edited,
which are different fields set up by `comint'.
There is even no interactive commands to check for fields explicitly.
All of the field limiting only overloads existing point movement
commands. Some packages may set different faces for different fields,
like `comint' does (using `comint-highlight-prompt' face), or may set
nothing except fields themselves. It is entirely up to package. And
even if face with different foreground color (or other visual
attributes) is set, differences between it and text outside the field
may be visible or not visible on particular display / terminal.
(With xemacs `comint.el' after revision 1.14 of 2006/05/25 it is even
more complex. `comint-highlight-prompt' is used only for
`font-lock-face' extent property, so there is an additional unknown of
whether font lock mode is on. It is also not typical use of font lock
to denote otherwise hidden text areas across which regular editing
commands will refuse to move, and thus required in this case.
Normally it is used for syntax structures which may be easily
recognized otherwise, across which editing commands move freely, and
thus optional.)
Generally user has to resort to evaluating elisp expressions to figure
what is going on. Or, in emacs, work around it all by setting
`inhibit-field-text-motion t' locally. Can not do so in xemacs due to
bug in its comint.
For these reasons considering lack of interactive commands to check
for field boundaries a bug. These commands should do the same
regardless of minor modes, faces attributes and display capabilities
in particular emacs process.
Explicit error messages about hitting field boundary would be even
better.
** Why still report for emacs 21.
Limiting movements to fields as described appeared in 21 release
branch only, as 1999-10-17 Miles Bader <miles(a)gnu.org> change.
If users could have noticed that and complained about that in that
time, it would be reasonable now to recommend them just to switch to
new development branch from release 21 one. But at that time emacs
cvs was not publicly readable. Such a recommendation would be at best
unreasonable. It signals that now it is <too late> to complain about
release 21 bugs. Until 21 release, it was <too early> to do so. When
there was time to do so, then?
- 2 participants
- 2 comments
Re: [Fwd: [Success with a little effort] XEmacs 21.4.19
17 years, 11 months
Adrian Aichner
Adrian Aichner
Rodney Sparapani <rsparapa(a)mcw.edu> writes:
> Adrian Aichner wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Hey all, is this patch still applicable?
>>
>>Rodney, what else have you done to build XEmacs 21.4.19 with ESD
>>support?
>>
>>
>>
> Hi Adrian:
>
> I'm not sure what you are asking me. Is the build report not clear
> about something? Please let me know.
Hi Rodney, I was wondering about your configure options.
Perhaps you could send the Installation file or output of
M-x describe-installation
unless you've already done so.
Best regards!
Adrian
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- 3 comments
Multi-line messages
18 years, 1 month
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
In XEmacs,
(message "hello\nyes")
displays "hello" in the echo area. In Emacs, you see both lines.
Does XEmacs support multi-line messages by twiddling a variable of
some kind? I've looked around, but haven't found anything.
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(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
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- 4 participants
- 8 comments
Getting Can't initialize XIM error message
18 years, 1 month
The XEmacs Package Smoketest
The XEmacs Package Smoketest
Hi,
[Resent: Posted just after mail list was lost. Problem is still
there.]
Since a few weeks I'm getting this error message, over and over again
during an editing session.
"Error: Can't initialize XIM: Can't get fontset resource for Input
Method"
It has probably(!?) something to do with a X-windows upgrade I did on
my gentoo system lately. But what it is? What resource am I missing?
Ideas?
Building from CVS so emacs-version is "21.5 (beta27) \"fiddleheads\" (+CVS-20060828) XEmacs Lucid"
Yours
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- 2 comments
TERM=dumb / emacs
18 years, 3 months
Ilya N. Golubev
Ilya N. Golubev
The readline / bash bug described in <comint: long lines truncated>
may be fixed or not fixed. In any case, for some long time we will
have to deal with programs where this bug is present. And it will be
a bug only of some programs, not of whole system. So there must be a
way in `comint.el' to revert to old `TERM=emacs' setting, and for some
particular program being run, not globally.
So checking for
(and (boundp 'system-uses-terminfo) system-uses-terminfo)
, like in emacs main cvs trunk, is *not* what should be copied.
- 2 participants
- 1 comments
Re: [PATCH] arc-mode: set coding system
18 years, 3 months
Aidan Kehoe
Aidan Kehoe
Ar an séú lá is fiche de mí Lúnasa, scríobh Stephen J. Turnbull:
> >>>>> "Aidan" == Aidan Kehoe <kehoea(a)parhasard.net> writes:
>
> Aidan> This should duplicate what insert-file-contents does, that
> Aidan> is, it should be the following on 21.5:
>
> `insert-file-literally' or `insert-file-contents-literally'.
No, insert-file-contents. We *want* the relevant coding system determination
to happen for files inside archives; their coding systems remain what they
were before the files became part of the archives.
> Except IIRC these may be confused by hooks or something.
There do appear to be hooks called by insert-file-contents-literally, which
seems to me to be a horrible design decision.
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