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Re: patch to fix rect.el like GNU rect.el 25 years, 1 month

Jan Vroonhof

Valdis.Kletnieks(a)vt.edu writes: > > The committee had little choice but to fail the defense.... > Thank you for finally given a reason why they decided over here to make the thesis defences "invitation only". Jan P.S. I think it is very rare for people to fail their defense here. However apparently it does occur sometimes that somebody "accepted on the condition that <3 months works of changes> is applied". Given that my advisor is reluctant to fix a date until he is sure of the final version I presume that won't happen for me.

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Re: Looking for developers to add GUI toolkit to XEmacs and/or InfoDock. 25 years, 1 month

Jan Vroonhof

wmperry(a)aventail.com (William M. Perry) writes: > > FYI, there is a BeOpen.com-sponsored project at SourceXchange for paid > > work to integrate an Open Source GUI toolkit with XEmacs and InfoDock Bob, thanks for doing this! I think it will be very worth while. When did you add this project? I was contemplating spending some of my time in the probably coming temporary unemployment trying out SourceXchange but I cannot remember seeing this before? Unfortunately I cannot commit myself to anything at the moment because I am not sure if, when and for how long I would be available for this. > Just an FYI for other people on the list... I think I'm going to submit a > proposal later this week. Good luck and success! I would love to see this happening! > using vacation / comp-time to do it. The 4-5 week timeframe is based on > using Qt, since it already has the easy ability to work with Xt-based Does that include convincing XEmacs major copyright holders (i.e. including Sun and the FSF) to add a Qt exception clause? :-( > applications, and I have more experience with it than gtk. Qt also works > better on win32 at the moment. But surely it isn't open source on that platform. > I also just noticed that the deadline was yesterday... That seems a mistake to me. Jan (who is wondering whether Andy will be charging consulting fees to whoever takes this up)

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Re: [CRASH] building xemacs, latest cvs 21.2 25 years, 1 month

Didier Verna

Yoshiki Hayashi <yoshiki(a)xemacs.org> wrote: > Then you guys didn't read my message. :-( > <877lg3dalg.fsf(a)dp50.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp> > http://www.xemacs.org/list-archives/xemacs-beta/200002/msg00302.html > > You can't build XEmacs with --with-canna=yes right now. Hmmm, I missed that one indeed. -- / / _ _ Didier Verna http://www.inf.enst.fr/~verna/ - / / - / / /_/ / EPITA / LRDE mailto:didier＠epita.fr /_/ / /_/ / /__ / 14-16 rue Voltaire Tel. +33 (1) 44 08 01 77 94276 Kremlin-Bicêtre cedex Fax. +33 (1) 44 08 01 99

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Re: More tab fixes 25 years, 1 month

Karl Kleinpaste

Andy Piper <andy(a)xemacs.org> writes: > Ok this should fix the problem which is athena specific. I can't work out > whether this is lwlib-Xaw.c's fault or Xaw itself, but this fixes it. That works for me. Tabs show up at the right times and are correct for the buffer in use, and the customized color specs work properly, too. Thanx very much.

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Re: EFS depends on VM in packages [Was: Build failures with ...] 25 years, 1 month

Jan Vroonhof

Kyle Jones <kyle_jones(a)wonderworks.com> writes: > VM can use to retrieve messages, I doubt if there is anyone, > including Sandy Rutherford, who is still using this code. You probably right here.. > So my first choice would be to bury this code Seems like a good idea.. > and get rid of the bogus dependency that way. Note that the dependency is NOT a problem. The make files can handle that. The problem is that the package build process thinks it is sufficient to have the .el files in place. For that reason I would love to get rid of the VM special build case anyway. Jan

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Re: patch to fix rect.el like GNU rect.el 25 years, 1 month

Didier Verna

Jan Vroonhof <vroonhof(a)math.ethz.ch> wrote: > [I will CC xemacs-beta and Didier (congratulations in order?)] (He's speaking of my Ph.D. graduation) Yes! :-) I don't know how it goes in other countries, but in France, Ph.D. defense is just a matter of protocol. Once you're authorized to defend, it means that you've got it. > I think there is such a high correlation between wanting to do this and > pending-delete that it makes no sense to add yet another configuration > option (whose default value would be 'depends-on-pending-delete). I disagree, in the particular case of string-rectangle. The special point with this function is that it doesn't currently use the rectangle you selected, but just the left side. In other words, the non pending-del behavior can be achieved by just selecting a 0-width rectangle. > It maybe time to move pending delete to a less obscure package (maybe > even the core or xemacs-base), but that is another matter. I'm all for putting it in the core, actually. -- / / _ _ Didier Verna http://www.inf.enst.fr/~verna/ - / / - / / /_/ / EPITA / LRDE mailto:didier＠epita.fr /_/ / /_/ / /__ / 14-16 rue Voltaire Tel. +33 (1) 44 08 01 77 94276 Kremlin-Bicêtre cedex Fax. +33 (1) 44 08 01 99

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Re: Use a more modern HTML DTD by default 25 years, 1 month

Jan Vroonhof

james(a)eecs.ukans.edu (Jerry James) writes: > Yes, I actually had that in there already. That means that 3 of us now > think it is a good idea, allowing us all to pat each other on the back > for being so intelligent. Staying with this theme... I think it is time to submit this version for real. Jan

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Re: patch to fix rect.el like GNU rect.el 25 years, 1 month

Jan Vroonhof

Didier Verna <didier(a)xemacs.org> writes: > I disagree, in the particular case of string-rectangle. > The special point with this function is that it doesn't currently > use the rectangle you selected, but just the left side. In other > words, the non pending-del behavior can be achieved by just > selecting a 0-width rectangle. Yes, but it is a pain to have to do it this way. The only occasion where I have used this function is to turn as ascii table into to tex table which I did as follows. Move to the column where want to insert the ampersand. Then type C-SPC M-> to move to the end of the buffer Type left to the end of the last line M-x string-rectangle & RET I would be highly annoyed if this deleted the whole right half of the table. I never want XEmacs to delete anything unless I asked it too. My opinion that tying this to pending-delete covers 99.99% of all cases still stands. Jan

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[CRASH] building xemacs, latest cvs 21.2 25 years, 1 month

Didier Verna

Just after temacs is created, the building process crashes with this (no more information, even with debugging options): EMACSBOOTSTRAPLOADPATH="/usr/local/src/XEmacs-21.2/src/../lisp/:/usr/local/src/xemacs" EMACSBOOTSTRAPMODULEPATH="/usr/local/src/XEmacs-21.2/src/../modules/:/usr/local/src/xemacs" ./temacs -batch -l /usr/local/src/XEmacs-21.2/src/../lisp/update-elc.el Fatal error: assertion failed, file /usr/local/src/XEmacs-21.2/src/alloc.c, line 2447, abort() make[1]: *** [update-elc.stamp] Aborted make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/xemacs/src' make: *** [src] Error 2 I'm building with gcc 2.95.2, on a debian potato linux box: -- / / _ _ Didier Verna http://www.inf.enst.fr/~verna/ - / / - / / /_/ / EPITA / LRDE mailto:didier＠epita.fr /_/ / /_/ / /__ / 14-16 rue Voltaire Tel. +33 (1) 44 08 01 77 94276 Kremlin-Bicêtre cedex Fax. +33 (1) 44 08 01 99

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vc-revert-buffer bug 25 years, 1 month

Albert Ting

This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. In XEmacs 21.2 (beta29) "Hestia" [Lucid] (sparc-sun-solaris2.6, Mule) of Thu Feb 17 2000 on betty configured using `configure --with-mule --with-clash-detection' Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug: This bug used to exist with GNU Emacs but was fixed about 1-2 years ago. I don't remember how it was fixed, but the bug also occurs in xemacs. Create the following directory setup: $ ls * dir1: RCS/ file1 dir2: file2 With file1 already checked in. Now run xemacs, and load the vc.el package. In one frame, open three windows with these buffers: file2 ------------ file2 ------------ file1 Go to the third window, checkout file1, edit the text, then save. Now do a vc-revert-buffer and say "yes" to cancel the changes. dir1/file1 does not change. However, a fresh copy is incorrectly stored in dir2/file1! I believe CVS has a similar problem. Albert Recent keystrokes: e s s SPC t h a n SPC a SPC s e c o n d ESC d C-x C-j C-p C-p C-e ESC b ESC b ESC b C-e C-n C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-f C-f a l w a y s SPC C-x C-j C-n C-c C-c p p p p p p p p q SPC d p S q q SPC C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n c y C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n RET c y q misc -user Recent messages (most recent first): 66 messages, 0 new, 0 unread, 0 deleted Checking for new mail for /home/alt/Mail/Mail... 66 messages, 0 new, 0 unread, 0 deleted End of message 66 from Albert L. Ting Generating summary... done Generating summary markers... Generating summary... 57 Generating summary... 38 Generating summary... 19 66 messages, 0 new, 0 unread, 0 deleted

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