On 11 Oct 2000, Yoshiki Hayashi <yoshiki(a)xemacs.org> wrote:
> "Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull(a)sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> writes:
[...]
>> (1) Custom is _full_ of calls to reset-face type functions that
>> destroy user customizations unless they were made through Custom.
>
> Not in this case. Suppose you use Alexander's .emacs and
> opened a new frame. As he wrote, it's shown in default
> face. Then evaluate (setq frame-background-mode 'dark) and
> open another frame. It's displayed in right faces.
Not in my case. I still see the same effects. I end up with the
font-lock-comment-face being cyan in the second frame, while it's green
in the first frame.
I made sure that `frame-background-mode' was set correctly, as well. It
seemed to be right.
[...]
>> I think adjusting faces with respect to the default face's background
>> is a very bad idea as a basic function; it should be done at a very
>> high level, such as Custom themes. At lower levels, functions should
>> do what the user says.
>
> Hmm... Then what background spec of defface is for? I'm
> not a particular fun of it, but I think it's useful.
I think that the big issue is that the software continues to adapt
itself to the default background color, despite my telling explicitly
what I want.
I think that if I only set the default face, having XEmacs change the
rest of it's faces to something readable is nice. When I explicitly set
the face properties, I would expect them to stay, even if that's
unreadable.
Daniel
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