June 1998 - XEmacs-Beta - XEmacs Mailing List Archives

Re: [OK] 21.0 "Somali-pre2" (beta42) on MkLinux 26 years, 5 months

SL Baur

[For faster response, if you have a problem with a build, the report should be directed to xemacs-beta]. Stephen R Anderson <sra(a)bloch.ling.yale.edu> writes to xemacs-build-reports: > Built from new tarballs. Compiler = egcs-1.02 > The matherr problem in src/floatfns.c still exists. Can you expand a little on that? > After commenting out the definition of HAVE_MATHERR in src/config.h, > xemacs builds without incident. I realize that this problem results > from the fact that the MkLinux development environment is out of > date, but apparently there's nothing we can do about that for the > present. If someone could eliminate the matherr problem, it would be > a nice service to this community. The fact that HAVE_MATHERR is defined means that configure is detecting it. Can you send in the portion of config.log where this is occurring? Grep for `checking for matherr' and snip the output from there to the next `checking for %s' message. Just how old is your environment? The last time somebody checked, I think XEmacs was buildable on Linux/a.out with proper versions of the libraries. > Beta42 runs fine, but I have one problem with sound, which I had not > noticed before. When xemacs wants to signal errors, I get a message > in the minibuffer: > audio: /dev/dsp, No such device. > I installed the sounds.au package. Why is xemacs trying to write to > a dsp? Because it's supposed to? /dev/dsp is where the sound code outputs (successfully) to, at least on Intel/Linux. > This isn't a NeXT machine....

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Ebola in vector key syntax 26 years, 5 months

SL Baur

(lookup-key [(control x) 4 a]) => 2 ;; WTF? I use this function constantly, it _has_ to be there. (lookup-key [(control x) ?4 a]) => add-change-log-entry-other-window ;; O.K. I'm not going crazy. Check for Ebola: (lookup-key [(control x) 4]) => list-directory (where-is-internal 'list-directory) => ([(control x) (control d)]) I think it's wrong in this context that single digit numerics in vectors get treated as control characters. A character is a character is a character and not an integer.

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ediff-minor.el v0.0 26 years, 5 months

Greg Klanderman

OK, I mentioned this was in the works earlier in the week and it now works insofar as I have tested next/previous-difference, quit, copy-A-to-B, copy-B-to-A, and restore-diff. It is no where close to being done, it is more like proof of concept. There's almost no error checking. But I figured I'd send it out and see what people think. Let me know. I occasionally have this signalling a window-live-p error on one of the ediff buffer windows. I believe it is because ediff keeps a pointer to the windows and popper tends to split a window when showing some help then upon burying it ends up leaving the new window created by split-window in place of the original. It'll get fixed. Is keeping pointers to windows evil or what? Greg

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[Success] 21.0 "Spanish" XEmacs Lucid (beta43) on i586-fga-linux 26 years, 5 months

Oliver Graf

Build using egcs-1.0.3 on Linux 2.0.34 using GLIBC 2.0.7 > XEmacs Build Report as generated > by build-report-version 1.35 follows: > Contents of /usr/src/xemacs-21.0-b43/Installation: > (Output from most recent run of ./configure) uname -a: Linux indie.fga-intern.de 2.0.34 #1 Thu Jun 4 21:02:48 MEST 1998 i586 unknown ./configure 'i586-fga-linux' '--prefix=/usr/local/xemacs' '--cflags=-O3 -mpentium' '--gung-ho' '--use-union-type' '--with-mule' '--with-scrollbars=athena3d' '--with-dialogs=athena3d' '--with-menubars=lucid' XEmacs 21.0-b43 "Spanish" configured for `i586-fga-linux'. Where should the build process find the source code? /usr/src/xemacs-21.0-b43 What installation prefix should install use? /usr/local/xemacs What operating system and machine description files should XEmacs use? `s/linux.h' and `m/intel386.h' What compiler should XEmacs be built with? gcc -O3 -mpentium Should XEmacs use the GNU version of malloc? yes (Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library.) Should XEmacs use the relocating allocator for buffers? yes What window system should XEmacs use? x11 Where do we find X Windows header files? /usr/X11R6/include Where do we find X Windows libraries? /usr/X11R6/lib Compiling in support for XAUTH. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Compiling in support for GIF image conversion. Compiling in support for JPEG image conversion. Compiling in support for PNG image conversion. Compiling in support for TIFF image conversion. Compiling in native sound support. Compiling in support for Berkeley DB. Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Compiling in Mule (multi-lingual) support. Compiling in XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method) support. Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. Compiling in support for OffiX. Compiling in EXPERIMENTAL support for Drag'n'Drop ( OffiX ). Compiling in support for proper session-management. Using Lucid menubars. Using Athena-3d scrollbars. Using Athena-3d dialog boxes. Compiling in DLL support. movemail will use "dot-locking" for locking mail spool files. Using the union type for Lisp_Objects. Using Lisp_Objects with minimal tagbits. Using indexed lrecord implementation. Compiling in extra code for debugging. Compiling in code for checking XEmacs memory usage. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking. WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result. WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- > /usr/src/xemacs-21.0-b43/beta.err does not exist!

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please try (and test) popper.el 26 years, 5 months

Greg Klanderman

I just wanted to let you all know that popper.el now comes in the edit-utils package. Popper is a package that hooks into temp-buffer-show-function and provides a nice pop-up temporary buffer showing behavior for completions, help, etc. Popper originally appeared in the ilisp package but became unmaintained and buggy and was dropped. I've taken over maintainance of the package for XEmacs and have largely re-written it at this point. I have improved the installation mechanism, fixed tons of bugs, and added support for the XEmacs world of variable-width and variable-height lines, modeline shadow, etc. I've added a number of new primitives to XEmacs 21.0 to support this. Anyway, I was hoping I could get some of you to try it, test it, and even get hooked on it. You'll want the version in edit-utils 1.23, which is designated version "2.40 XEmacs 1.4". You'll also want to be running XEmacs 21.0 b42 or later. Installation is as easy as M-x popper-install. If you decide you don't like it, M-x popper-unstall should completely unhook it and restore your environment. Once installed, temporary pop-ups will appear at the top of the current window shrunk to fit. Popper tries to avoid display jumps as much as possible so your text should remain in as close to the same place as possible when the pop-up is shown and hidden. C-z is the default popper prefix key and a few bindings are: C-z C-z, C-z C-1 : popper-bury-output, toggle showing the buffer C-z C-v : popper-scroll-output C-z M-v : popper-scroll-output-back C-z < : popper-beginning-of-buffer C-z > : popper-end-of-buffer C-z C-s : popper-isearch-forward C-z o : popper-jump-to-popper C-z x : popper-cycle - cycle thru pop-ups Of course everything is customizable. enjoy, greg

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Re: help building source packages 26 years, 5 months

SL Baur

Greg Klanderman <greg(a)alphatech.com> writes: > can someone explain what I'm doing wrong here? I'm trying to build > the pcl-cvs source package: > pochacco% pwd > /proj/mstar/software/xemacs/xemacs-21.0/build/packages/build/xemacs-pcl-cvs > pochacco% make > /proj/mstar/software/xemacs/xemacs-21.0/build/xemacs-20/src/xemacs -no-autoloads -batch -l ../../package-compile.el -- xemacs-base -- cookie.el > Loading /proj/mstar/software/xemacs/xemacs-21.0/build/xemacs-20/lisp/auto-autoloads... > xemacs exiting.Cannot open load file: /proj/mstar/software/xemacs/xemacs-21.0/build/packages/libs/xemacs-base/auto-autoloads > make: *** [cookie.elc] Error 255 > I've got XEmacs.rules and package-compile.el in ../.. > What is it trying to do with xemacs-base? It is attempting to find it as per the instructions in the pcl-cvs Makefile: ... PACKAGE = pcl-cvs PKG_TYPE = regular REQUIRES = xemacs-base ... Every package listed on the `REQUIRES' line must be present at byte-compile time. This is due either to needing some macro/defsubst defined in there, or pcl-cvs is require'ing some Lisp package in there. A quick grep shows that the latter is the case: pcl-cvs.el:(require 'add-log) ; for all the ChangeLog goodies > There is no ../../libs directory. I only want to compile pcl-cvs. You can't do it without xemacs-base. _Or_, fix pcl-cvs to only depend on xemacs-base at run-time instead of byte-compile time.

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tmm.el ported to XEmacs? 26 years, 5 months

William M. Perry

Have just been doing some hacking on tmm.el (the package that shows the menu prompts under Emacs on a TTY). For the first time ever, the menus in Emacs/W3 will be _fully_ functional on a TTY (starting with Emacs 20.3). Kind of nice. Would be nice to do something similar under XEmacs. It probably wouldn't be as hard as tmm.el - anybody got cycles to burn? :) -Bill P.

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Re: bogus binding of button3 in widget keymaps... 26 years, 5 months

William M. Perry

Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> writes: > "William M. Perry" <wmperry(a)aventail.com> writes: > > > Could we please remove the binding of button3 in wid-edit.el? This > > makes it impossible to have context-sensitive popups on a widget > > without specifying a :button-keymap property on every single one. > > > > Emacs 20.2.95 does not have this binding - did we add it in for a > > particular reason? > > The reason why I added it was that it was annoying to have to press > button2 to activate, for example, the State widget in Customize. It > makes much more sense to use button3 for that. Why not make button1 do what you want there? Since it is effectively a 'menu', I would expect it to be activated by button1. And this is precisely what I would see the use of :button-keymap being used for - a special case. I don't think the binding makes sense for standard widget items. You wouldn't be able to get the standard context sensitive menus in a GNUS article buffer if you just happened to have a buttonized/widgetized chunk of text under your mouse. -Bill P.

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help building source packages 26 years, 5 months

Greg Klanderman

can someone explain what I'm doing wrong here? I'm trying to build the pcl-cvs source package: pochacco% pwd /proj/mstar/software/xemacs/xemacs-21.0/build/packages/build/xemacs-pcl-cvs pochacco% make /proj/mstar/software/xemacs/xemacs-21.0/build/xemacs-20/src/xemacs -no-autoloads -batch -l ../../package-compile.el -- xemacs-base -- cookie.el Loading /proj/mstar/software/xemacs/xemacs-21.0/build/xemacs-20/lisp/auto-autoloads... xemacs exiting.Cannot open load file: /proj/mstar/software/xemacs/xemacs-21.0/build/packages/libs/xemacs-base/auto-autoloads make: *** [cookie.elc] Error 255 I've got XEmacs.rules and package-compile.el in ../.. What is it trying to do with xemacs-base? There is no ../../libs directory. I only want to compile pcl-cvs. thanks greg

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Re: bogus binding of button3 in widget keymaps... 26 years, 5 months

Hrvoje Niksic

"William M. Perry" <wmperry(a)aventail.com> writes: > Could we please remove the binding of button3 in wid-edit.el? This > makes it impossible to have context-sensitive popups on a widget > without specifying a :button-keymap property on every single one. > > Emacs 20.2.95 does not have this binding - did we add it in for a > particular reason? The reason why I added it was that it was annoying to have to press button2 to activate, for example, the State widget in Customize. It makes much more sense to use button3 for that. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- "Listen, kid, we're all in it together!" -- Harry Tuttle in _Brazil_

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