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Re: Romanian translation of Emacs' etc/TUTORIAL file 26 years, 5 months

SL Baur

Cool! Upload the XEmacs version to ftp://altair.xemacs.org/incoming/ and I'll make sure it gets into the distribution. Thanks. Tudor Hulubei <tudor(a)cs.unh.edu> writes on comp.emacs.xemacs: > Hi, > I'm almost finished with the Romanian translation of the TUTORIAL file > (TUTORIAL.ro). I have created two versions, one coresponding to the > TUTORIAL file in GNU Emacs 20.2 and another one coresponding to the > TUTORIAL file in XEmacs 20.4. > Could one of the XEmacs maintainers tell me where can I send this file > in order to be included in the XEmacs tree? When compressed, the file > is around 20kb and I don't want to waste people's the bandwidth with > it. > If there are other Romanians on this lists that are willing to proof > read the tutorial, I would really appreciate any comments/suggestions.

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Re: [Exceedingly Groovy] 21.0 "Toggenburg" XEmacs Lucid on alpha-dec-osf4.0 26 years, 5 months

Andrew J Cosgriff

>>>>> "ajc" == Andrew J Cosgriff <ajc(a)bing.wattle.id.au> writes: ajc> Not only can I build without --gung-ho, but ajc> open-network-stream-internal has reappeared, letting Gnus work again. ...of course, I may have spoken too soon on the second point. If I compile with gcc, all's well. If I compile with cc, it's bogus. (I'm just doing an optimized build with gcc, then i'll give a cc build a closer look) -- Andrew J Cosgriff <ajc(a)bing.wattle.id.au> exterminate all rational thought ! celebrity caffeine father war toy

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Re: gnus package is old 26 years, 5 months

Hrvoje Niksic

SL Baur <steve(a)vmailer.xemacs.org> writes: > I know about this bug -- it's why I didn't immediately package > 5.6.11. I know about the fix. I was waiting for Lars to come out > with 5.6.12. Lars appears to take some time. We should probably just roll our own patched-up 5.6.11, given that it solves MS Windows problems. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- main(){printf(&unix["\021%six\012\0"],(unix)["have"]+"fun"-0x60);}

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Re: Any (brave :-) mew users? 26 years, 5 months

Hrvoje Niksic

greg(a)alphatech.com (Greg Klanderman) writes: > It'd be really nice if C-x C-f etc would do ~user completion. > Tcsh and most other shells have had this forever. If you send > me the /etc/passwd code I can look into it if there's interest. Coding it is likely easy enough. The tricky thing is to find the right place to hook it in. I think it should be somewhere in complete-file-name. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- Oh lord won't you buy me a color TV...

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Re: Any (brave :-) mew users? 26 years, 5 months

Hrvoje Niksic

Darryl Okahata <darrylo(a)sr.hp.com> writes: > I've got a ton of local changes/modifications to mh-e. I've got no > plans to submit them to the mh-e maintainer (as I don't have the > time to get the legal paperwork done), but I could submit them to > xemacs-patches. If you are interested in working on mh-e, why don't you become the maintainer of the XEmacs version? Then you could easily incorporate your own patches, and sign the papers when you see fit. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- Ooh, Granny, what a BIG belly-button you have!

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Re: More C mode syntactic yuckage 26 years, 5 months

Hrvoje Niksic

Colin Rafferty <craffert(a)ms.com> writes: > > You will be (un)happy to know that every version since 19.11 has > > done this. I'm not surprise to hear it. In fact, I sort of expected it. It's just that I consider it a bug. Whether the bug is easily fixable is another question. > > And if you move the `(' off the BOL, everything works fine. I noticed that. However, the reason I ask is that in the standard GPL comments a line begins with `(', so the expression pops up quite often. > > Line 526 of syntax.c decides that a character code type of Sopen at > > the beginning of the line means we are done looking, and the function > > itself will then leave you at the end of the comment. > > > I guess the thing to do is figure out why the assumption at line 526 > > is there. As Kyle pointed out, it's an optimization. For 21.1, someone should make measurements and see how fast/slow things work when the optimization is removed. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- Ooh, Granny, what a BIG belly-button you have!

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font-lock-auto-fontify? 26 years, 5 months

Andy Piper

This variable is set to t indicating to me that buffers should be syntax highlighted by default. However, because font-lock is not loaded by default this has no effect. I personally believe font-lock should be loaded by default so that this variable does have an effect. andy --------------------------------------------------------------------------- " .sigs are like your face - rarely seen by you and uglier than you think" Dr Andy Piper, Technical Architect, Parallax Solutions Ltd mail: andyp(a)parallax.co.uk web: www.parallax.co.uk/~andyp

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[Exceedingly Groovy] 21.0 "Toggenburg" XEmacs Lucid on alpha-dec-osf4.0 26 years, 5 months

Andrew J Cosgriff

Not only can I build without --gung-ho, but open-network-stream-internal has reappeared, letting Gnus work again. Yay ! :P > XEmacs Build Report as generated > by build-report-version 1.35 follows: > Contents of /net/users/ajc/build/xemacs-20/Installation: > (Output from most recent run of ./configure)

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21.0 "Toggenburg" success, HPUX 10.20. 26 years, 5 months

Richard Cognot

After some time off, I finally have some time to try out the latest. Feels very good to be back on the edge ;-). Compiled without a glitch. Works like a charm... Minor annoyances: - Had to dig out a bit to find the makeinfo package. Would really be great if it was somewhere on the xemacs ftp site. - Packages are great, but... It would be nice if there was a way to register which packages are installed, so that package-update would update only the installed packages (tried it, and it went on installing the whole package archive. Some of the things I had forgotten to install, but I don't care for rmail or mh-e, which got installed anyway...). Apart from that, a great release. Feels extremely fast (but then, It would, as I my machine has been upgraded to a 4 time+ faster one, and I've used specific options for it...). Richard. uname -a: HP-UX fronsac B.10.20 A 9000/782 2015948519 two-user license ./configure '--site-libraries=/home/cognot/APPS/lib/hp700' '--site-includes=/home/cognot/APPS/include' '--debug=no' '--compiler=cc -Ae' '--cflags=-O -D_HPUX_SOURCES +DA782 +DS782' '--error-checking=none' '--dynamic' '--x-libraries=/usr/lib/X11R6 -L/usr/lib/Motif1.2_R6' '--x-includes=/usr/include/X11R6 -I/usr/include/Motif1.2_R6' '--prefix=/usr/local/XE21' XEmacs 21.0 "Toggenburg" configured for `hppa1.1-hp-hpux10.20'. Where should the build process find the source code? /usr/local/src/xemacs-20 What installation prefix should install use? /usr/local/XE21 What operating system and machine description files should XEmacs use? `s/hpux10-shr.h' and `m/hp800.h' What compiler should XEmacs be built with? cc -Ae -O -D_HPUX_SOURCES +DA782 +DS782 Should XEmacs use the GNU version of malloc? yes Should XEmacs use the relocating allocator for buffers? yes What window system should XEmacs use? x11 Where do we find X Windows header files? /usr/dt/include /usr/include/X11R6 -I/usr/include/Motif1.2_R6 /usr/contrib/X11R6/include Where do we find X Windows libraries? /usr/dt/lib /usr/lib/X11R6 -L/usr/lib/Motif1.2_R6 /usr/contrib/X11R6/lib Additional header files: /home/cognot/APPS/include Additional libraries: /home/cognot/APPS/lib/hp700 Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Compiling in support for JPEG image conversion. Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Compiling in support for CDE. Compiling in support for ToolTalk. Compiling in EXPERIMENTAL support for Drag'n'Drop ( CDE ). Compiling in support for proper session-management. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif dialog boxes. Compiling in DLL support. movemail will use "dot-locking" for locking mail spool files. -- |-------------------------------------------------------------| | Richard Cognot | Proceed, with fingers crossed... | | | /\^^/\ | | <cognot(a)ensg.u-nancy.fr> | `' | |-------------------------------------------------------------| | http://www.ensg.u-nancy.fr/~cognot | |-------------------------------------------------------------|

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Re: Any (brave :-) mew users? 26 years, 5 months

SL Baur

Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> writes: > Kazuyoshi Furutaka <furutaka(a)tokai.pnc.go.jp> writes: >> > What is ``mew''? "Messaging in an Emacs world" doesn't really tell >> > much. It is a mail reader that evolved from a programmer's distaste for the lack of development on mh-e. >> > Also, how come the maintainer is XEmacs development team, given >> > I've never heard of this package? The listed maintainer is the XEmacs package maintainer, not the package author. A maintainer of `XEmacs development team' defaults to me in the absence of anyone else. >> "In short, Mew is a great MIME mail reader for Emacs/XEmacs" >> It also needs IM, a perl5 script suite which replaces MH. > Thanks for the information. It sounds interesting. Steve, would you > consider updating the description to at least mention it's a mail > reader? That's not what I gathered by reading the documentation. It has started off as a mail reader, but it is approaching what Gnus does from the mail reading side rather than from the Usenet side, in which case the description is as good as any. > Also, the maintainer address should likely be updated to > <SOMETHING(a)mew.org>. Not until (or if) that is who will be maintaining the XEmacs package. The maintainer will be me if I can't fix the fuckage created in my Gnus setup by an incompetent sysadmin and Gnus defaults in the next few weeks. My email has basically been down 2 weeks now due to changes in the default NNTP server I access netnews from and I'm well beyond the mildly pissed-off stage.

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