May 1998 - XEmacs-Beta - XEmacs Mailing List Archives

Hrvoje Niksic

"Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull(a)sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> writes: > That is not your burden, it's ours, of course (ours == the "create > .xemacs/{init,options}.el and be done with it" camp). But we'd > appreciate your help if you choose to give it! What help do you need? Haven't I mailed an example of a `startup-choose' function? > As long as we're postponing this, I think we should completely > disable searching for .xemacs/init.el for 21.0. I don't see a good reason to do this. It would simply break setups of people on this list without achieving any useful goal. > I recognize I'm probably in a minority of one on this, as even > Hrvoje has signed on to retaining .xemacs/init.el as an undocumented > feature. If you give us a really good reason why .xemacs/init.el should not be searched for, you might cease being a minority! -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? Who knows? Who cares?

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Re: The Personal Experience Goes on 26 years, 6 months

Kirill M. Katsnelson

Some time ago, Hrvoje Niksic wrote... |+ | Some more bugs/misfeatures I noticed: | | * The menu code doesn't seem to recognize "---", which is used in some | places. Instead of placing a separator at the appropriate place, it | just inserts the literal dashes. |- Is there a correct menu syntax? Menu items in the form "---" are correctly recognized as separators. Although, items coded as vectors ["---" nil nil] are not. I think it is better to fix the code which uses vector syntax, becuase this is wrong to treat it as a separator, for example, ["---" 'foo t] is a notmal menu item which calls foo and named "---". Of course, usage of ["---" nil nil] items is not documented. Kirill

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[Success] XEmacs 21.0-b42-pre2 on Linux 26 years, 6 months

Kazuyoshi Furutaka

[i686-GNU-linux] Source : patched up from 21.0 beta41 Patch : patch 2.4 Make : GNU Make version 3.76.1 CC : pgcc-2.90.27 980315 (egcs-1.0.2 release) OS : Linux 2.0.34pre16 (RedHat 5.0) X : X11R6.3 (Accelerated-X ver.4.1 w/ XFree86 3.3.1) gdb : GDB 4.16 [alpha-GNU-linux] Source : patched up from 21.0 beta41 Patch : Patch version 2.1 Make : GNU Make version 3.75 CC : egcs-2.90.23 980102 (egcs-1.0.1 release) OS : Linux 2.1.89 (StataboWare) X : X11R6.3 (XFree86 3.3.2) gdb : GDB 4.16 -- Kazuyoshi Furutaka furutaka(a)tokai.pnc.go.jp furutaka(a)jb3.so-net.ne.jp

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Dumped-lisp.el in vm 26 years, 6 months

Kirill M. Katsnelson

Is not this file a leftover? Kirill

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b42-pre2 has been uploaded 26 years, 6 months

SL Baur

This pretty much clears out the incoming patch queue[1]. This is the last pre- before beta42 unless something is horribly wrong. There's a bunch of Lisp package changes pending that have highest priority now. ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/beta/testing/ http://cvs.xemacs.org/ Cumulative changes from beta41: -- pixel function naming cleanup from Greg Klanderman -- specifier fixes from Hrvoje Niksic -- tooltalk crash fix from Gunnar Evermann -- various changes from Andy Piper -- toolbar button size and glyph patch from Andy Piper -- Miscellaneous changes from Hrvoje Niksic -- Miscellaneous changes from Martin Buchholz -- warnings cleanup from Kirill Katsnelson -- msw graphics patch from Andy Piper Footnotes: [1] There's one DnD bounce and one new DnD patch still on it.

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Re: .emacs vs .xemacs vs .xemacs.el vs...? 26 years, 6 months

Hrvoje Niksic

Jan Vroonhof <vroonhof(a)math.ethz.ch> writes: > Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> writes: > > > For the same reason you can't place .cshrc somewhere in your > > standard path. > > The anology doesn't work as the loadpaths are computed before > .emacs/init.el is loaded. The analogy definitely works. `.cshrc' is a special file, and can't be placed just anywhere. It's not just a random executable. The same goes for .emacs & friends. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- Try to use "ad nauseam" at least once per flame. It doesn't mean anything; but it gives that polished feel to your postings.

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Re: Sounds -- .au, .wav, or both? 26 years, 6 months

SL Baur

Andy Piper <andyp(a)parallax.co.uk> writes: > At 12:13 AM 5/24/98 -0700, SL Baur wrote: ... >> If we need both, it will definitely have to be a package and we'll >> have to upgrade the sound playing code to have lists of valid >> extensions so that `play-sound-file' can Do The Right Thing and either >> play "im_so_happy.au" or "im_so_happy.wav" as the situation warrants. > What's the outcome of this? Pending, but it's going to need to be done. Raymond Toy <toy(a)rtp.ericsson.se> writes: > Andy Piper <andyp(a)parallax.co.uk> writes: >> I think so. Although I think linux understands both. So we need to convert >> the .au's to .wav's and ship both? > Unfortunately, the NAS code only handles .au's and not .wav's. It > would be nice if XEmacs NAS code did. (NAS itself does support .wav's > except the ADPCM ones.) O.K. We'll ship both.

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RE: [Success] 21.0 "Somali-pre1" XEmacs Lucid (beta42) on i386-pc -cyg win32 26 years, 6 months

Michael Hill

...and with face.patch. Info invoked from the toolbar is now back in action. Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Hill [SMTP:mikehill＠hgeng.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 1998 1:37 PM > To: 'xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org' > Subject: [Success] 21.0 "Somali-pre1" XEmacs Lucid (beta42) on > i386-pc-cyg win32 > > Built and installed smoothly with -O2 and all of Andy's patches from > today (except face.patch). >

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Re: .emacs vs .xemacs vs .xemacs.el vs...? 26 years, 6 months

Michael Sperber

>>>>> "Didier" == Didier Verna <verna(a)inf.enst.fr> writes: Didier> sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) writes: >> [Chuckle ...] Actually, the official location for the late packages >> is .../lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages. (You don't know that because the >> documentation hasn't been written yet.) Didier> Guhh! Disgusting! Since we're under an `xemacs' Didier> directory, what sort of packages could we have appart from Didier> *xemacs* packages ?! mule-packages site-packages infodock-packages -- Cheers =8-} Chipsy Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla

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[Success] 21.0 "Somali-pre1" XEmacs Lucid (beta42) on i386-pc-cyg win32 26 years, 6 months

Michael Hill

Built and installed smoothly with -O2 and all of Andy's patches from today (except face.patch). Mike > XEmacs Build Report as generated > by build-report-version 1.35 follows: > Contents of /binary/xemacs-21.0-b41/Installation: > (Output from most recent run of ./configure) uname -a: CYGWIN32_NT DILBERT 4.0 19.1 i686 unknown ./configure '--site-includes=/usr/local/include' '--cflags=-g -O2 -Wall -Wno-switch' XEmacs 21.0-b42 "Somali-pre1" configured for `i386-pc-cygwin32'. Where should the build process find the source code? /binary/xemacs-21.0-b41 What installation prefix should install use? /usr/local What operating system and machine description files should XEmacs use? `s/cygwin32.h' and `m/intel386.h' What compiler should XEmacs be built with? gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wno-switch Should XEmacs use the GNU version of malloc? yes Should XEmacs use the relocating allocator for buffers? default What window system should XEmacs use? x11 Where do we find X Windows header files? /usr/X11R6.3/include Where do we find X Windows libraries? /usr/X11R6.3/lib Additional header files: /usr/local/include Compiling in support for XAUTH. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for GIF image conversion. Compiling in support for JPEG image conversion. Compiling in support for PNG image conversion. Compiling in support for TIFF image conversion. Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in File coding support. Compiling in support for OffiX. Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop ( OffiX ). Compiling in support for proper session-management. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. movemail will use "dot-locking" for locking mail spool files. Using Lisp_Objects with minimal tagbits. Using indexed lrecord implementation. Compiling in extra code for debugging. Compiling in code for checking XEmacs memory usage. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking. WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result. WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- > /binary/xemacs-21.0-b41/beta.err does not exist!

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