Jake> I am looking to create a series of simple web pages that Jake> have a static left-side and content in the middle. Clicking Jake> on links in the left-side will change the content displayed Jake> in the middle. This is similar to how the XEmacs site is Jake> designed (although you have a statoc bottom too). I see Jake> that you are using tables, not frames, to create the static Jake> area. But did you just type it all in using XEmacs or did Jake> you use some tool to assist in the layout and design? Hi Jake! http://www.xemacs.org/About/Website.html should answer almost all of your questions. I welcome any feedback to improve that documentation. BTW, website contributors are also welcome. Currently 39 people are able to commit, but hardly a handful of people actually contribute. Not a complaint, just a piece of data. See http://www.xemacs.org/About/Website.html#CCAvS I'd like to replace the use of genpage with XML/XSLT/mySQL or similar but haven't found the time to investigate deeply into this direction. Best regards, Adrian Jake> -- Jake> Jake Colman -- XEmacs Tinkerer -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/

On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 00:06, Jake Colman wrote: Don't use tables for layout, instead focus on document structure and use CSS for presentation. Lots of related information at http://www.w3.org/WAI/gettingstarted/

Jake> Ville, Jake> <rant> I find this so frutrating! </rant> (not directed at you or anyone Jake> in particular). I need to a series of simple linked web pages. I want Jake> a static small left-side with links so that clicking on a link will Jake> change the content in the middle. Each page has the same static Jake> left-side (and static header/footer for that matter. Only the middle Jake> content changes. Many web pages have this including xemacs.org but I Jake> cannot find a simple way or tool to set this up! I don't need or want Jake> frames and I want to do minimal manual html coding. I'd love to use Jake> xemacs for editing the content. How can I best do this? If your server supports Server Side Includes: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/howto/ssi.html you can use that to have every page #include your static parts. I imagine that PHP could be used to do this as well if your server has PHP support. You could probably also use a simple CGI to do it too, if your server allows CGI but not SSI or PHP. Of course, this is all still fairly manual but it's not overly complex to put together. Chuck -- Charles K. Hines <ckh(a)requesttech.com&gt; <chuck.hines(a)baesystems.com&gt; Principal Scientist at ReQuest Technologies Inc. (http://www.ReQuestTech.com/) "You're never too old to do goofy stuff" - Ward Cleaver

ML> Try make(1) and a preprocessor like cpp(1) or m4(1) (or whatever ML> supports include) and roll your own way to generate the pages. If you ML> want more support there are scripts that try to this better. Example: ML> "http://ht2html.sourceforge.net/" If not that is enough. Go dynamic ML> and use Plone ;-) (I might have jumped over a few alternatives ;-) ht2html looks interesting. Thanks! -- Jake Colman -- XEmacs Tinkerer