John> on 7/27/00 8:41 AM, Adrian Aichner at aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com wrote: John> (mailing from work, hence no from: jacobs(a)xemacs.org. please just reply to John> the list(s)) John> I wasn't offended -- crotchety, maybe. Chalk it up to an John> early morning reply, eh? I learned a new word today: crotchety Can't say I fully understand its meaning. Is it similar to "cranky"? John> I haven't played much with PHP, so take this with a grain of John> salt. I see PHP as being more for sites with dynamic John> content. Since the content at xemacs.org is static, PHP John> would be a bit of overkill. That's one of the things I like John> about genpage -- it lets you do some tricks (via Perl) while John> you're generating the pages, but doesn't introduce a lot of John> overhead on the server. John> What leads you to suggest PHP? I played with Apache on my Windows NT laptop and came across PHP. I'll learn about it first before I contemplate it further. John> [ more stuff snipped ] John> Hey, I'm not going anywhere. 8^) You've been doing a bang-up John> job, from what I can see, and I hope you keep on with John> it. Some documentation would be good, but it might be better Thanks. John> to let the dust settle a bit first -- make sure everything John> is optimal, then nail it down with a doc or two. John> And now on to the specifics... APA> AFAIK, "base href" is a feature to be used when web documents are APA> sent off via e-mail, to provide a base for all relative links. John> [snip me asking for a cite] John> But that doesn't say not to use it, just that it trumps John> everything else. Which is exactly why I used it. Yes, I realize this reference doesn't really support my position. John> When I started working on the site, there really wasn't that John> much self-linking within sub-directories. (I want to say John> none, but I'm not sure if that's right.) You have done a great job. I like html2content.pl too. Is that yours? Converting "Architecting XEmacs" was a snap with it. John> I see this as something that needs to be kept in mind while John> working on pages, which is not a big problem for me. John> This is sounding like a style issue. I'm perfectly happy to John> run with whatever solution you think is right -- you're the John> one slogging through the muck here. jsja> The reason for using <BASE> is so image links in the jsja> template will work at all relative directory levels of the jsja> site. Consider what would happen with the <IMG jsja> SRC="Images/xemacs.gif"> when viewing jsja> <URL:http://www.xemacs.org/About/index.html> if that BASE jsja> tag wasn't there. John> Yes, that would work now. John> The other reason I used <BASE> was because I was re-working John> the site from a local copy -- so <IMG SRC="/Images/FOO"> All of these are in the repository now so this should all work. John> wouldn't have allowed me to see what I was going. More than John> anything, the <BASE> usage is a remnant of that work. John> So, I guess aside from noting the potential break-age if John> anybody mirrors the site in a remote directory (e.g. at John> <URL:http://www.foo.com/xemacs-mirror/>) using absolute John> links will work. Good point. I'll have to think about this for a bit. John> Again, I'm sorry if my previous message sounded as if I was John> upset, that was not what I intended to convey. Peace. John> Keep up the good work, John> john. -- Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org&gt;