I've been fortunate to be in a position to keep a "Panther" system running, but I'm dependent on MacPorts for a lot of non-critical utilities and conveniences (not to mention a couple of toys). MacPorts basically is not supporting Panther at all (although Apple is---just today there was a security update for Panther). So I just hit the point where 20 ports that I use are not building.[1] I think that's a message from upstairs.... Is there anybody out there still using XEmacs on "Panther" for real work? I'm probably going to just go ahead and upgrade to 10.4 "Tiger" on this system anyway, but if there are users to support I'll at least consider whether I really *need* to upgrade (at this point, I definitely *want* to!) Reply to me; if anybody asks, I'll summarize later. Reply-To set. Steve Footnotes: [1] Which is really painful, because the default failure mode for MacPorts is to deactivate your working version, error out, and leave you with sundry ports deactivated without warning. This can easily happen quite silently because of a dependency.... _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://calypso.tux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta