Rick> [1 <text/plain; US-ASCII (7bit)>] Date: 07 Jan 1999 09:25:47 Rick> +0100 Message-ID: <o977luzbib8.fsf(a)lspsun17.epfl.ch&gt; Rick> TM is dead, VM has its own MIME support. Rick> How does VM's MIME help me to do MIME with mh-e? Oscar> I did not mean we should discard TM as a whole but tm-vm Oscar> specifically (the interface between Tm and VM). Even if Oscar> the development of TM has stopped, there seems to be no Oscar> stable alternative at the moment (I don't know what the Oscar> current state of development of SEMI). FWIW, on a very active ML of Linux-using expats here in Japan (usually more active than XEmacs-beta) I have seen NO complaints whatsoever in the last three years about SEMI, and there must be 2 dozen SEMI users for mail, few of whom are Lisp hackers. Many more are probably using Gnus-SEMI for news. MIME support is absolutely essential in this environment. I like VM's MIME support, though, because VM refuses to try to display unknown Content-Type:s, which keeps most MS-produced garbage out of my face. :-) Morioka-san (SEMI author) seems to be out of the loop at the moment, but it's the Japanese holidays. You could email him directly, he contributes to XEmacs on a regular basis: "MORIOKA Tomohiko" <morioka(a)jaist.ac.jp&gt; I seem to recall him saying that we should stop using TM and switch to SEMI now, but I'm not sure. -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 __________________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________________ What are those two straight lines for? "Free software rules."