dv> Kyle Jones <kyle_jones(a)wonderworks.com&gt; wrote: dv> I whole-heartedly agree with Kyle. I'm usually pissed off by backward dv> compatibility, but this time I'm sure we can't afford losing "-u". It simply dv> /is/ convenient for many things included the situations Kyle describes, and dv> many others (debugging somebody else's code, using settings from a project's dv> account etc). dv> The fact that some stuff requires the location of ~/.xemacs before the dv> command line is read sounds broken at a very low level. Isn't it possible to dv> fix this, maybe even by making a special early treatment for -u ? Please, guys, it's not a matter that I don't agree with you. It's just that I don't know how to fix it. I really invite you to try. I thought it would be easy. It's not. What's worse, a number of packages use the information provided -u in the wrong way (or not at all). I think it's better to have no feature than a feature which doesn't work at all like you'd expect. I can envision *replacing* -u by arguments along the lines of "-user-init-file" and "-user-init-directory" for ~/.emacs and ~/.xemacs, and providing something like -u through that. How does that sound? -- Cheers =8-} Chipsy Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla