>>>> "BW" == Ben Wing <ben(a)666.com>
> Mike, is it possible to say something like `do first <a>;
> you still get EFS erros, try <b>; else try <c>'; where my
> proposal would just be <a> or <b>? Maybe <c> is `fetch and
> install an EFS update manually'?
> Well, now that I think about it; maybe manual fetch and
> install is the only realistic workaround.
BW> We really need to do things by HTTP. This will solve all these problems.
BW> What will this involve?
There are ca. 5 places in package-get.el where remote files are
accessed. These places are not specially functions, stuff like
file-exists-p and insert-file-contents-literally, that rely on EFS to
do the actual work.
These places have to generalized. They should dispatch over a
transport protocol identifier that gets added to a download site
description. This way we keep backward compatibility _and_ have the
opportunity for other access methods (e.g., rsync, ssh) if needs
The bigger problem is the actual HTTP access. Currently, XEmacs
provides HTTP access methods only in W3. Clearly, it's a bad decision
to make the package package dependent on such a mass of code. That
means that we need to implement a new module. My thoughts are on an
http.el along the lines of smtp.el, built upon #'open-network-stream.
Of course, we also need to get Steve Youngs' agreement with this
approach; after all, package-get.el is him. As he just answered on
xemacs-beta; he doesn't want package-get.el to depend on something not
in core, and the http.el above would not be in core. Or would it? But
even if we put it in core, there remains the question how we handle
the upgrade path of those installations where it isn't there yet. (I
thought about adding it to the package package; but that's not a clean
If we agree on a design, I would submit an implementation. Next
Sunday, I'll go for a one-week holiday and will have some time for
Joachim The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the
Rödermark, Germany one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!"
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