Jeff> stephen(a)xemacs.org wrote (Sat, Apr 6 2002 02:01:55): APA> I don't know who submitted our entry at freshmeat. Stephen> Nobody does. According to Steve Baur it was submitted by Stephen> a third party, and freshmeat either can't or wouldn't Stephen> tell us who it was, Jeff> It was submitted to our database 4 years ago. We didn't have project Jeff> ownership in the system back then, and we don't have logs going back Jeff> that far, so we have no idea who submitted it. It's a moot point, Jeff> anyway; the question is, who wants to take ownership of it now? Stephen> and would not transfer it to us. Jeff> I don't know where you got this idea. On the contrary, I sent email Jeff> to xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org on 8/15/2001, asking that someone take Jeff> ownership of the project, which is still listed as belonging to N/A. Jeff> Adrian wrote xemacs-review(a)xemacs.org (and CCed me) on 8/23/2001, Jeff> asking for someone to do it, and nothing happened after that. I wrote Jeff> again on 11/20/2001, and had no reply. Please don't blame us for Jeff> this. Hi Jeff, seems like a happy end is in sight then. Is it possible to give ownership to a user like XEmacs (or xemacs) so that XEmacs Review Board members can rotate the job? I can be the inital contact person to transfer ownership and do the initial update, unless Stephen or someone else wants to do it. Best regards, Adrian Jeff> To: XEmacs Review <xemacs-review(a)xemacs.org&gt; Jeff> Cc: jeff covey <jeff.covey(a)freshmeat.net&gt; Jeff> Subject: Re: freshmeat project listing for XEmacs Jeff> From: Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org&gt; Jeff> Date: 23 Aug 2001 13:44:35 +0200 Jeff> Hi guys, Jeff> whos submitted our entry in the first place? Jeff> Who could update it? Jeff> Best regards, Jeff> Adrian jeff> I'm writing in reference to your project jeff> "XEmacs". jeff> Since the time you submitted this project to us, freshmeat has adopted jeff> a new categorization system which allows much more fine-grained jeff> organization of projects. Since your project has never been jeff> recategorized under this system, our readers aren't finding your jeff> project when they browse through categories where it should be listed. jeff> We'd like to ask you to take just a few minutes to recategorize your jeff> project. You should delete any categories which begin with "Old jeff> Appindex" and add all of the new categories which apply to your jeff> project. You can edit your project listing at: jeff> http://freshmeat.net/projects/xemacs/ jeff> with the "recategorize" function in the menu. While you're there, jeff> take a moment to make sure everything else is up-to-date. If you have jeff> any problems, please let us know at http://freshmeat.net/contact/. jeff> Thanks for listing your project in our database. jeff> Sincerely, jeff> Jeff Covey Jeff> -- Jeff> Adrian Aichner Jeff> mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org Jeff> http://www.xemacs.org/ Jeff> -------------------------------------------- Managed by Request Tracker -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/

Stephen> stephen(a)xemacs.org wrote (Sat, Apr 6 2002 02:01:55): APA> I don't know who submitted our entry at freshmeat. Stephen> Nobody does. According to Steve Baur it was submitted by Stephen> a third party, and freshmeat either can't or wouldn't Stephen> tell us who it was, Stephen> and would not transfer it to us. Jeff> I don't know where you got this idea. Stephen> Read my post. I was quoting someone else. It also Stephen> describes my own experience. I do know that both Steve Stephen> Baur and I tried to log in and take ownership (at times Stephen> separated by several months) and could not. Pilot error, Stephen> maybe. Stephen> Freshmeat announcements at the time of the change to the Stephen> new system were _very_ discouraging about asking for Stephen> help; registrants were expected to take ownership Stephen> themselves, as I recall. I tried, failed, and postponed Stephen> what promised to be a moderately annoying dialogue. APA> Is it possible to give ownership to a user like XEmacs (or APA> xemacs) so that XEmacs Review Board members can rotate the APA> job? Stephen> Something very weird is going on here. Stephen> AFAICT that user is already registered (since 1998) and Stephen> owns the XEmacs project registration, but nobody knows Stephen> who it is. ISTR I tried mailing to xemacs＠freshmeat and Stephen> it bounced, but I can't find the bounce so maybe I didn't Stephen> (usually I keep such things). Should that be expected to Stephen> "work"? Stephen, have you read your mail yet, today, before writing this? The new user is XEmacs, not xemacs and we have the password. Stephen> They seem to be updating the page too, since it says the Stephen> current beta is 21.5.6, which is only about 3 days old! I did that, and got thru freshmeat approval quickly. I think we´re running out of things to argue about :-) Best regards, Adrian Stephen> I didn't have anything to do with "xemacs". Steve Baur Stephen> (slb＠freshmeat) didn't create it, or remember anybody Stephen> mentioning creating it, either. AFAIK Martin Buchholz Stephen> had nothing to do with it. Jeff> Whoever wants it just has to click on the "change owner" Jeff> link on the "[Project]" menu. Stephen> This has been tried, several times. Stephen> Steve said he tried it. When the issue came up a year Stephen> ago, I registered the account "xemacadm" and attempted to Stephen> transfer ownership to it. This was flat-out refused by Stephen> the 'bot, as the project registration was already Stephen> "owned". Stephen> Evidently procedures have changed, since this time I got Stephen> the polite message about maybe being the legitimate owner Stephen> or new maintainer. I've submitted a request. Maybe that Stephen> will flush out "xemacs". -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/