Paul> http://www.xemacs.org/Documentation/21.5/html/lispref_2.html#SEC11 Paul> says that if evaluate the *scratch* buffer, the output Paul> should appear in the buffer. No, it says if you evaluate "in" the scratch buffer, it will appear there. That refers to the use of Emacs Lisp Interaction mode, in particular C-j runs `eval-print-last-sexp'. I'll take a look at improving the docs, that's not as precise as it could be. Paul> The manual also says that if you select the lines and Paul> evaluate the region, output should appear in the echo area. Paul> If that means the minibuffer, I don't see any output there Paul> either. Yes, you do. You see the empty line resulting from a terminating newline output into the one-line echo area. Do it again, then C-x b " *Message-Log*" RET (don't type the quote marks, but the name of the buffer _starts with a space! so quote marks are commonly used to show that), and look at the last few lines. Note where point is. That's the line you see in the echo area. I agree it's not very useful, but it's not going to be high priority to fix since `eval-print-last-sexp' is exactly what the doctor ordered. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.