SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org&gt; writes: But the XEmacs comment are pretty reasonable complaints about the current state of software. Pick something you'd find offensive (joys of anal sex, pedophilia, brilliance (or stupidity) of Clinton (or Reagan), NEA, ...) and imagine variable names that bring that to mind and comments about it spread throughout the code. Now would you like to work on that code? Juvenile is a good label for it and probably reflects the overall quality. --pete